I started some too :) -- experimenting with soil blocks

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Snowy day today... I decided to count how many seedling Tomatoes I have so far....

1 extra tall fast and big Pineapple Pig in a 30oz super large drink cup plus 18 in 3-1/2" approx 20 oz recycled soda and large drink cups =19


Plus 8x3=24 tallest 2" miniblocks and 30+40 permatray 2" miniblocks = 113 but subtract non-tomato basil and the 3 marigolds as well as that defective Victorian Dwarf = 108


Plus 34 seedlings in 3/4" microblock Main tray and 2 more sprouted in the seed germination tray (marked with a diamond) = 144


Quite a few seeds didn't germinate (Too hot? Too wet?) Microblocks marked with stars are seeds that I was thinking about re-seeding since they are very early to mid season varieties and I might still have time to grow them. I did decide to give up on most 2nds (labeled -2) for which I already have a seedling and late season varieties that haven't germinated by this time... But New Big Dwarf and Variegated are Late to Very Late varieties that I'm still thinking about trying to get at least one of each to grow....

...update...
When I moved the two sprouted seedlings in the germination tray to the main tray, I found that Japanese Black Trifele and Blondköfchen had sprouted since this morning, along with one of the Lovage. So the current total is now 146

...another update...
Melon Ball was up this (Tues) morning (SO glad because I definitely wanted to try this one ==> 147

Also, Gixx recommended I definitely re-seed New Big Dwarf and Malachite Box.

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Here are the biggest two growing nicely. The light color on one plant -- not sure what that is but it's kind of circular. I may have accidentally let the leaves touch the light?

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Compare these to the March 22 photos
The ones in the cups are easiest to see the difference.

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More update pics:

Herbs up above (basil mix, Mexican mint marigold/Texas Tarragon with a couple of Etkezi Paprika, toothache plants in the back with a red stem Malabar spinach, more basil, then densely planted 6 cell of Corno Di Toro pepper, eggplant mix, some Early Jersey Wakefield cabbage, parsley, Purple Vienna Kohlrabi on the right)
Tango and Ventura celery, celeriac, Summer Savory, and alyssums down below with one densely planted Black Cherry tomato K-cup:


Close-up of the celery in 2" miniblcks:


It really helped that these UHP containers come with a built-in drain spout after these seedlings were left out in a heavy rain:

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Corn and sunflowers pre-germinated in kitchen seed sprouters and then sown in 2" mini blocks are up. They are pale-looking because I was busy last couple of days with the Tomato Spiral and didn't check on the web flats covered with empty potting mix bags in the garage.



The tall corn are in 4"x6" deep pots and were under the lights already.




We had about 1" of rain today, just what we needed since the ground was starting to dry out. I plan on planting the sprouted corn and sunflowers tomorrow if it doesnt rain again, or day after tomorrow.

Peanuts were also pre-germinated (in a DIY sprouter made from McDonalds sundae cups ) and planted in 2" mini blocks. They have been inside with the peppers and eggplant seedlings.

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Planted one tray of corn seedling miniblocks plus another 16 miniblocks and two 4"x6" high pots.

The corn seedlings grown in 6" deep loose potting soil had 6" or longer roots. They were harder to plant than the 2" mini blocks with no more than 2" stray roots sticking out. If I had planted both trays it would have been 72 miniblocks. As it was, I think I still planted something like 70 seedlings at exact distance apart I wanted. If any of these fail for some reason, I have a whole another tray, plus 8 more miniblocks and two more 6" pots....



I planted the corn seed blocks like this.

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I also planted the true potato seed (TPS) seedlings. They were way overcrowded in their 4" round pots (3/4" microblocks >> 2" miniblocks >> 4" pots) and needing to be watered every day. Plus they were getting root bound so much that the roots had stopped up the drainage holes.

These two have burgundy red stems and veins:


These have some color to the stems but not as much:


And these appear to be just green:


The seed potatoes that were planted in the ground are just barely starting to emerge.

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Almost all 36 sunflower seedlings are up and ready to be planted....



...this has been my biggest "problem" with the soilblocker method -- I'm ending up with way too many plants and I really don't think I have room for all these sunflowers.... these are Mammoth Russian and came from my saved sunflower head I grew in... was it 2010?

...yep. 2010 https://www.helpfulgardener.com/forum/vi ... 81#p156181

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Another view of TPS plants. Red tomato cages on their sides are for holding up the floating row cover at night:


I protect the trays of biggest tomato seedlings in here during the cold nights (low 40's and below):


The 3 mil sheeting on the gate is used to double-cover when temps are forecast to fall in the 30's.

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Update photos of some of the seedlings that are still inside --

peanuts:


Tray of Celery and alyssums, summer savory on the left;Tray of Basils, toothache plants, Mexican Mint Marigolds, Malabar spinach, densely planted and still waiting to be uppotted peppers and eggplants on the right (they sometimes go outside during the day):



Main pepper tray which is having a lot of problems and is looking very delayed compared to the healthy densely planted peppers above Planning to uppot them once the tomatoes and the rest of the corn are planted out. Overall, peppers don't seem to like growing in soilblocks like tomatoes, though some of them are doing better than others.

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Onions update:

[6sparkpug6]

Hi! applestar: I am still kind of confused about the upblocking... would you mind explaining it?

I would also love to hear how this garden is doing! I have been reading about your indoor tomato experiment and am fascinated!

I am also curious about, did you mention, peanuts?

And also, about the corn... how many plants did you grow? I got some corn seeds (a potted variety) for Christmas, but they got lost somewhere... I guess they will just have to be part of next year's plants...


Thanks so much apple!

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Hmm... I guess I missed this last post in the thread. Sorry about not answering.

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This year, I'm combining the soilblock method with the pre-sprouting in seed zip bag method

Subject: Starting pepper seeds >> spoon in zip bag germination

Tomato seeds love this. They demonstrated one objection I have wirh this kind of pre-germination method. I was busy yesterday and today -- this evening, came home to a mess of sprouted, cotyledons fully extended... MUST BE POTTED seedlings


This meant starting my first tray of 2" mini soil blocks

...I also already have three 8 miniblocks @ 2 1/2 gal rice milk containers of peppers and eggplants, another 4 and 6 miniblocks of tomatoes, plus one more block... 30 tomatoes in miniblocks and 17 peppers and eggplants.

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I'm reviewing my notes and trying to decide what the best way to use the microblocks would be.

- off hand -

* I had trouble with peppers because it's too hard to maintain ideal conditions for the tiny blocks for a lengthy period. Easy to dry out, but invites mold and damping off fungus if kept in enclosed containers. Quick to dry out COMPLETELY.

* tomatoes need to be upblocked almost immediately because they grow very long taproots. Then the microblocks designed to fit exactly in the cubic hole made by the mini locker adapter prevented deep planting which really helps to grow strong tomatoes with extra roots that readily grow up the stem.

* microblocks uppot perfectly into recycled K-cups. But plants that outgrow K-cups need to be uppotted again before planting out. CELERY grew really well in this sequence, though this year, ai opted to grow the seedlings in community K-cup and pudding cup, then separate and uppot to K-cups.

I might try growing lettuce in microblocks, then K cups. I think lettuce would meet the criteria I'm thinking of for microblocks:
> tiny, surface sown seeds
> that germinates readily without too much fuss
> small root system that will grow to transplant size in K-cups
> and/or can be planted out early in cool weather before they outgrow the K-cups.

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Tomato soilblocks needed to be separated from the tightly packed 4x5=20 half lasagna pan and 5x10=50 2" miniblocks per web tray:

I planted cauliflower seedlings that were started in a community container in 2" miniblocks. To make the process easier, I washed most of the soilmix from the roots by dunking. I had 19 seedlings.

Later, I planted a Purple Peacock broccoli seedling in the spare block.

...as you can see,
I'm starting to use the "EGGCRATE" light diffuser underneath the soilblocks and web flats to ensure proper air pruning. You can cut 5 pieces plus some useful scraps from each standard panel (which I used under the cauliflower and under the paper pots mentioned in "Recycled Containers" thread. I used tin snips.

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I couldn't find my microblock picker upper -- a pair of tongs that came with my set of soil blockers... And you REALLY, REALLY need the tool to handle them.

...so I made my own...

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I decided to try something new to upblock the 2" miniblocks this year.

Last year, I wanted to try stacking the 2" miniblock on top of another one, but I was confounded by the fact that simply stacking the growing block on top of a freshly made block was unstable. I ended up making half filled half-height blocks for them to sit on to give them just a little bit more soil than the cube that the blocker makes.

....but for this year's upblocking, it came to me as I was falling asleep! You should have seen me this morning I was so eager to test it out!

First I needed a right kind of container -- my MIL buys cut up watermelon for the kids whenever we visit -- all year round. I had asked her to save me the containers. It turned out that the Larger of these containers holds exactly 9 miniblocks with a little space in between -- PERFECT !

...as you can see, I arranged the blocks in the container upside down <<that was my EUREKA >>

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I sowed lettuce, escarole, arugula, and some herbs like rhyme and chamomile in microblocks.

Key to using microblocks is to upblock as soon as seedleaves unfurl: