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Growing Nuts from Seed

I always wanted to experiment and grow a Nut Tree, I know its best to get a grafted tree, but If I want to grow my own Nut Tree can I use the Nuts from the Grocery store to Start it from seed?

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I grew several black walnut trees from the nut in a shell!Not sure about store nuts

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Does Your tree produce fruit yet? I heard that Hazel nut produce fruit very fast, in about 2-3 years

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My one black walnut tree about 12 feet high had about two dozen nuts this the third year ! I would like to have a few butter nut trees! I see butteruts sometimes at the flea markets!
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NIce, I also want a Black walnut tree but From what I heard is bad for the veggie gardens, I shall go to the store and pick up some nuts than, but Do I just put the whole Hazelnut or open the shell and plant it like that

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Plant the whole shell. I would soak it for a day or so! keep black walnut trees away from the garden even the leaves!

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Well a Walnut tree sounds too cool maybe too cool for me right now, till later and as for me right now I'm going to get me some hazelnuts as soon, and Ill try that with soaking it in the water. thanks.

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Here is a link to buy nut trees!
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https://www.coldstreamfarm.net/?gclid=COGIsqiG_K0CFYao4AodDCFStA

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I think the dangers of black walnut/ juglone as plant inhibitors are over rated and plenty of things will grow next to walnut trees. But they do get gigantic. One mature walnut tree will shade your whole yard. You wouldn't want one near your vegetable garden just because in a few years your garden will be in shade. And any large tree will compete with veggies for water and nutrients as well as sunlight. The roots of it spread out farther than the crown.

Hazelnuts, almonds and some other nut trees come in dwarf varieties that are much more suited for most people's yards.

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Oroz if speed is your need hazelnut is about as fast as any nut tree.

I'd buy my nuts at a farmers market. localism is a good thing in any tree grown from seed.

I have scored (filed a notch in shell) nuts. I didn't see that much of an improved germination rate. But it didn't make it worse either.

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most nuts need cold stratification(mimic winter conditions) to grow. and there is a chance that most need a certain number of cold winter hours to produce nuts. being that your in socal you might find it difficult to grow northern nuts.

if I were you id check out a dwarf pecan.

also grafted nut trees produce much much faster than nut trees from seed. for example wild pecans may take 20 years to start producing, but once they do they will produce for another 50+ years.

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Yea but my whole thing is just about growing it from seed just for fun, and I know is going to take along time but I just love growing thigs from seed

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Bobberman wrote:My one black walnut tree about 12 feet high had about two dozen nuts this the third year ! I would like to have a few butternut trees! I see butternuts sometimes at the flea markets!
Are you saying a 3 year old Black walnut is producing? 3 years after a seed was planted? :?

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Yea but my whole thing is just about growing it from seed just for fun, and I know is going to take along time but I just love growing thigs from seed
if its just a learning process, I would try these nuts. and of course if you find or want others give it a try.

almond
walnut
pecan
hazelnut
acorn

be sure to buy 100% raw nuts. in shell if possible. if anything most of these woods are great for smoking foods.( use the twigs not the big branches) and I also recommend reading up on the individual needs of each for germination as they are different. or you can post it here.

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Ya a three year tree could be 4 but my other 3 year tree is bigger than this one and does not have nuts yet!

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Well its all fun and experiment

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How much time and how much room do you have?! I have a couple of pecans, and they may have been volunteer, and many walnuts around. I have picked pecans off the ground a couple of times, usually not much or squirrels are at the buffet line first. Squirrels also bury aka plant nuts in the yard, garden, pots, anywhere and they are the dickens to get out.

Pecans are a messy tree, with lots of dropped stuff. Walnuts not real pretty

Also, you have nut trees, you have squirrels, means bye-bye tomatoes.

I am in a cheery mood!!

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Haha I was laughing as I read that, but I have no Squirells, Only Ducks but they wont eat em, they may peck at them but leave them, also I have all the time of the world I'm just 21 so I'm still on the Younger Side(I hope) and Volunteer nuts would be awesome cuz you can forget them and in a couple of years you have some trees, I Have alot of space the only problem is I might have to move this year, but I can keep it in a container, I actually forgot to go to the store and buy some nuts I might have to pick up on any nut I see but not walnuts.

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Oroz hickory and juglans family trees are incerdibly tap-root dominant. You can keep them in pots for a couple years, maybe.

Better you do a Johnny Chapman and plant nut trees and leave them behind you.

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if you have that mindset, go buy some monkey puzzle tree seeds. VERY nutritious nut, very high yielding. BUT@!!!! it wont fruit for like over 50 years. so maybe when your 70 youll get to eat one. this country used to be covered in monkey puzzle trees until people cut them down for little tiny pieces of wood on and in violins.

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Wow that is Horrible, It would be awesome to have such a nut, and its sad how people will take good plants trees of its own habitat just to make fast money

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I grabbed a bunch of nuts in December to try and grow them.

Out of all the seeds I tried to grow, I got one Almond growing, two Chestnuts growing, and one Hazelnut. They were all bought from the food section at Walmart. lol.

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Nice, You should Keep em all and Let the waiting Give you a Reward of Nuts. =D

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Here's what my Almond looks like at the moment.
[img]https://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/dailynightly/seedlings1.jpg[/img]


Here's one of my Chestnuts.
[img]https://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/dailynightly/seedlings2.jpg[/img]


Here's my other Chestnut.. I guess I planted him upside down, because he's actually lifted himself out of the dirt, and has almost flipped himself completely over.
[img]https://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/dailynightly/seedlings3.jpg[/img]


My Hazelnut shows roots going down the side of the cup, but nothing has come to the surface yet. Maybe it's upside down as well, and isn't strong enough to flip itself?

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Those look amazing specially the chestnut, and its crazy how the walnut just turned over, maybe you should help out the hazelnut lol

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Thanks, it's not a Walnut though.. it's another Chestnut.

Have you started any nuts yet?

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Oh yea chestnut, well ive been procrastinating on getting it, but I'm sure ill get it today, I have to go and buy some, but I have no vehicle but today I'm going all over so I'm going to get a hold of some today

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Just got a Hazelnut, Almon and what looks like a huge hazelnut, n the store said Chestnut but doesn't look like yours.

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Mine was a dark red color, I peeled the skin off of it the best I could.

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....and I had to crack the hazelnut open with a hammer.

I held it with vicegrips, and tapped it lightly on the ground. Then I kept tapping harder each time, until I heard a crack or pop. Then I took it in my hands and looked for the crack, then peeled it open with my fingertips.

The Almond was a lot harder for me to access. I remember taking small clippers to cut around the sides, until I could eventually pull it apart with my fingers.

If you have a nut-cracker, it might help.. but I was afraid of breaking the seed inside.

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My next question was to see if you left them over water at night but I guess you just cracked the nut open, Seems risky but ill give it a try then.

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The Hazelnut I just put in a glass of water on the counter, and cleaning the water out several times a week. I had a handful of Hazelnuts in there, and only one of them spread open and turned a light green.. so I threw the other ones in the trash.

The Almond I put in the fridge, inside a ziplock bad between two moist coffee filters. If you don't have coffee filters, just use paper towels. Keep it moist, but not dripping wet. I noticed the flat end was getting larger and showing more white, so I was unsure if it was a root or stalk, so I planted it in the dirt on it's thin side... so that both fat ends could grow either way. What I did not know was that they grow from the top... that is why my plant is pushed to the side of the cup. lol.

And the Chestnuts also spent a month in the fridge, but being so large, I did not think the ziplock bag and filters would work.. so I put hamster bedding in there(wood chips). I'm sure you could probably use seed starter or something.. maybe even dirt. But should be loose enough so you can take it out to keep checking on it. Once the stalk started to come out, I came to this forum to learn how to plant it. Here is a link to that post:
[url]https://www.helpfulgardener.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=237948#237948[/url]

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Sure, I would soak them over night as well.

I think I did that was the Almonds too before moving them into the ziplock bags.

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Oh that sounds good, so soak them and put them I'm moist paper towel and or just warm soil will work right? now that I have a heatmat I think I should start putting it to good use

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Here's two videos I watched to get an idea how to crack the seeds open, the first one looked too dangerous, so I cracked them with a hammer like I mentioned in my previous post.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4FN9rEjnxk[/url]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS8jQoWSqaU[/url]


I did not plant them in anything warm right away, only after they germinated. Apparently, they have to go through a short winter spell in the fridge.. but mine started to sprout after 2 or 3 weeks in the fridge, THEN I took them out and planted them in a warm location.

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Oh ok then I shall put them in the fridge Thanks

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It's only been a couple of days, but my Chestnut has grown pretty quick.
[img]https://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/dailynightly/seedlings8.jpg[/img]


It even has another part growing near the bottom.
[img]https://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/dailynightly/seedlings9.jpg[/img]


The other Chestnut has also been moved to a large planter... the seed flipped over and was pushing so hard it was bending the top of the cup.. now it's got room to do what it's trying to do. lol.


I moved the Almond to a bigger planter as well.
[img]https://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/dailynightly/seedlings7.jpg[/img]


Gonna keep the Almond inside till it gets a little bigger and stronger.

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That chestnut looks terrific, I must say its one of the most beautiful plants ive seen, idk why but I also love how an apple seedling looks, well I hope this nuts don't take too long to sprout in the fridge, but I have enough time.

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I remember checking on mine every couple of days in the fridge, finally I cleared out the drawer in the bottom and put the ziplock bag with the chestnuts in there.

Since I no longer seen the ziplock bag when I opened the fridge, I forgot about it.. then 2 or 3 weeks later, I remembered I had them in there and went to check.. that's when I discovered the root stem coming out of both chestnuts.

Speaking of apple seedling, I got a few of those growing as well. I live in Florida, so I'm not sure how well they're going to grow, but I'm going to try.

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I got a crabapple tree growing at the moment its doing fine actually great I'm in california so its farely warm even at nights



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