I would really like to try them. My aunt says she loves them.
What is the earliest and latest months that you can throw the seeds around?
No.Should I bush hog 'em?
Not a purist in the least. I grow a considerable number of species that aren't native but... I won't knowingly plant a noxious weed like Gypsophila paniculata (Baby's Breath) or an invasive species like Centaurea cyanus (Bachelors Buttons) or a plant that is known to naturalize such as Mirabilis jalapa (four o'clocks).So while I respect the attitude of the wildflower purists in this thread.
Actually, this kind of makes the point. It's a difference of perspective and purpose. We humans (in the developed countries, at least) live in a world of want; the flora and fauna in an ecosystem live in a world of need. We want beauty to increase the pleasure in our lives; the flora and fauna need food, water and shelter to survive.So while I respect the attitude of the wildflower purists in this thread. Those mixed containers can give a wonderful experience to a gardener, and the butterflies and bees make no distinction, they behave as if the wildflower garden was the most scientifically planned garden around.
I agree. Far to often our wants are incompatible with nature's needs. In too many cases they are not only incompatible, but they are clearly destructive. There is a silver lining though, if we choose to avail ourselves of it; we are free to change our wants.very good points regarding purpose however I believe enhancing one's personal gardening pleasure really shouldn't abdicate one's responsibility to the environment by working to avert documented potential disasters (most of which we have some power to avert). Knowingly incorporating noxious weeds or invasive species or plants that are well documented as having naturalized into any landscape design, regardless of whether one just putters around in their garden or is gardening with the purpose of creating actual habitat for wildlife, seems counter productive particularly when there are so many aesthetically appealing alternatives available.
From another thread here titled 'I.D. this flower [photo]-That online nursery American Meadows is a poster child for invasive species and noxious weeds. They're enticing us by advertising we can create meadows using their wildflower mixes of Baby's Breath, Forget Me Nots, Ox Eye Daisies, Morning Glory, Chicory, Bachelor's Buttons, Siberian Wallflowers, Dame's Rocket, Shasta Daisies, and Queen Anne's Lace??? Some of those are illegal to sell in my state but these companies must be flying in under the radars selling them in wildflower mixes. Forest Farm is right in there with companies like American Meadows with all the garbage plants they offer. Shame we don't have laws on the books forcing nurseries to part with enough information for gardeners who prefer native plants to be able to shop with confidence knowing that a plant they are buying from a nursery is at least native to this continent or not.
If anyone from the southeastern US is interested in seeing lists of plants that are formally documented as being invasive, the Southeast Exotic Pest Plant Council maintains a decent enough list-Say biwa, I just took a closer look at that American Meadows site. No way would I order anything from them. In addition to what Gnome shared with you, many of the plants and seed they are selling are not for American Meadows. Just because a nursery has the word American or Native in it, doesn't mean they're selling American let alone native plants.
Species jumping out as me as being something you definitely wouldn't want would be-
Achillea millefolium (White Yarrow (which one?)
Centaurea cyanus (Cornflower)
Cheiranthus allionii (Siberian Wallflower)
Chrysanthemum maximum (Shasta Daisy)
Chrysanthemum coronarium (Garland Chrysanthemum)
Chrysanthemum leucanthemum (Ox-Eye Daisy)
Cosmos bipinnatus (Wild Cosmos)
Cosmos sulphureus (Sulphur Cosmos)
Cynoglossum amabile (Chinese Forget me Not)
Dianthus barbatus (Sweet William)
Dimorphotheca sinuata (African Daisy)
Eschscholzia californica (California Poppy)
Gypsophila elegans (Annual Baby's Breath)
Hesperis matronalis (Dame's Rocket)
Iberis umbellata (Candytuft)
Ipomoea purpurea (Morning Glory)
Linaria maroccana (Baby Snapdragon)
Lobularia maritima (Sweet Alyssum)
Lotus corniculatus (Bird's Foot Trefoil)
Lychnis chalcedonica (Maltese Cross)
Oenothera lamarckiana (Evening Primrose)
Papaver rhoeas (Red Poppy)
Silene armeria (None-so-Pretty)
Trifolium incarnata (Crimson Clover)???? What is this?
I know what you mean. I took an adult continuing education class on how to use search engines. That helped a little bit. I learned how to cut and paste which helped even more. No need to know how to spell the scientific names when one can cut and paste. Anyway, hand pulling all the garbage plants gets old after a while particularly when they are getting into areas I want set aside for other plants. I know darn well when I get back I'm going to have to spend an hour hand pulling weed seeds that germinated in all my 5-gallon tomato buckets and then onto the few beds of ornamentals I have to weed there which should suck up an entire day of my life. I'd much prefer to be playing in the dirt planting things I want growing here.It's obvious there is much to be learned here but I gotta tell you my eyes cross when I read those Latin plant names. I'll never learn them and truth be told it kind of sucks the fun all out of it.
So do some homework on what is actually around in your neighborhood, both flora and fauna. Be aware of whether the plant you are purchasing is invasive or not, and every once and a while, think about REAL wildflowers as a choice...Tallamy is currently Professor and Chair of the Department of Entomology and Wildlife Ecology at the University of Delaware in Newark, Delaware, where he has written more than 65 research articles and has taught insect taxonomy, behavioral ecology, and other subjects. Chief among his research goals is to better understand the many ways insects interact with plants and how such interactions determine the diversity of animal communities.
If you believe they are beautiful flowers, then enjoy them. One gardener's weed is another gardener's flower. I even plant dandelions and only dig them up when they get thorny.Charlie MV wrote:I fee like I'm the great unwashed. I planted a few handfulls of wildflower seeds we picked up at Lowes. They grew into what we believed were beautiful flowers until I read this.. We have them in vases throughout the house. Should I bush hog 'em?