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Disease tomatoes, please help.

Can anyone help me with my tomato plants? This first plant has some sort of disease, and i can't figure out what disease and how to cure it. Need an expert to identify the disease and maybe suggest a remedy to cure it? I believe this is the only plant i have with this disease.
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I'm also getting some rotten tomatoes, what should i do about this? Help!
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Re: Disease tomatoes, please help.

Start a replacement with a cutting from a healthy plant. IMO you are not likely to have a badly diseased plant recover to healthy production. A cutting will root in about a week and should be ready for the ground in less than three weeks and should start blooming soon after. I always keep blooming sized replacement plants on hand. Probably will have to use two or three in the next week.
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It looks pretty severe. It might be better to start over. Remember to bag and trash everything and do not plant the tomato in the same spot. Make sure your tomato is in full sun and has good air circulation. The disease looks fungal. It is common in humid conditions. You may need to be proactive and do preventive fungicides when the weather is humid.
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Re: Disease tomatoes, please help.

Would pruning it down to a single stem help at all? Maybe i could try it and see what happens? also what about the half rotten tomatoes? Just about every plant has them, but only one of the plants is diseased. Should i cut them to prevent bugs?

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The half rotten tomatoes appear to have blossom end rot. That is caused by calcium deficiency and is most often caused by irregular water supply
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That tomato looks like it has blossom end rot (BER) -- caused by uneven watering inhibiting calcium uptake and delivery to the fruits by the plant. Sometimes seen in first fruits then improves. More often seen in elongated fruits, but beefsteak types can get them, too.
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I have had good results with neem oil as a preventative against fungal diseases. I spray my plants weekly just before it's too dark to see. It has also helped with squash bugs.
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Oh! And I'd scratch that one. Pull it, bag it, trash it.
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Fungal diseases are hard to treat once they start. It has already advanced to most of your tomatoes so it is also aggressive and late in the game to try to treat it. Cutting it back probably won't help.
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Lindsaylew82 wrote:Oh! And I'd scratch that one. Pull it, bag it, trash it.
So it's not worth the risk? Will it infect other plants?

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From your post it already has if you have more than one with the disease. Fungal spores are in the air and in the soil so yes they do infect other plants and can live in the soil for years.
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That last photo is the one that is really worry some. That black streaky look on the stem -- if it's not dirt smear and the black rot goes through the stem -- reminds me of the one year we had late blight here. Where are you located? It would be way too early in the season here for late blight, but my tomato plants are no way as mature as yours.

If the black rot runs through the stem -- brown in the cross section of the stem when cut and not all healthy green -- and the infection is in the main trunk or leaf branch low on the plant already, that plant is toast. Bag entire plant and roots, close tight (possibly double bag) and toss. DISINFECT TOOL.

It would be a good idea to closely inspect every single plant. Cut off and remove every sign of infection so it will be easier to monitor progression. If rapidly spreading, then drastic action may be necessary to prevent widespread infection. And if you live in a hot summer area that forces a break, then you would proceed with a second planting later for fall-winter growing, you want to preserve the garden from becoming completely contaminated.
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applestar wrote:That last photo is the one that is really worry some. That black streaky look on the stem -- if it's not dirt smear and the black rot goes through the stem -- reminds me of the one year we had late blight here. Where are you located? It would be way too early in the season here for late blight, but my tomato plants are no way as mature as yours.

If the black rot runs through the stem -- brown in the cross section of the stem when cut and not all healthy green -- and the infection is in the main trunk or leaf branch low on the plant already, that plant is toast. Bag entire plant and roots, close tight (possibly double bag) and toss. DISINFECT TOOL.

It would be a good idea to closely inspect every single plant. Cut off and remove every sign of infection so it will be easier to monitor progression. If rapidly spreading, then drastic action may be necessary to prevent widespread infection. And if you live in a hot summer area that forces a break, then you would proceed with a second planting later for fall-winter growing, you want to preserve the garden from becoming completely contaminated.
I live in Mississippi, and tomorrow i will go and pull it out the ground. This is my first time doing a garden which is why I'm trying to find answers online. I'v been EXTREMELY careful around this plant, ever since i noticed black spots i haven't touched it. About two weeks ago it rained for nearly 7 days straight, I'm assuming this is the cause of this disease. I will watch the rest of my plants very closely until i feel safe.

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Re: Disease tomatoes, please help.

overwatering, no aereation, ... prune the lower leaves and stop watering it for sometime, see if the color changes and remove the rotten tomato.
Don't give up easily on tomatoes, just stop giving it more love. Also does your soil have good drainage ?

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before I even got to applestar's post, I was thinking late blight.

One classic sign of late blight is the dark lesions on the stems:

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This picture is when the disease is further advanced and is sporulating, which gives it the fuzzy look. Earlier in the process, it would just be dark.

leaf damage may look like this:

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Here's an article about it with lots of pictures of what to look for:

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if you think your plant looks like the pictures, I would get rid of it (bag it up and dispose of it) ASAP. Once it starts putting out all those spores, all your plants will be at serious risk, especially in the kind of rainy conditions you describe.

The article says: The disease can be very explosive due to the quantity of spores produced and the quick disease cycle under cool, wet conditions. And it is destructive as diseased tissue is killed quickly. Established lesions cannot be controlled, even with the most effective systemic fungicides that can be used by farmers with a pesticide license.

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Re: Disease tomatoes, please help.

Pathfinder wrote:overwatering, no aereation, ... prune the lower leaves and stop watering it for sometime, see if the color changes and remove the rotten tomato.
Don't give up easily on tomatoes, just stop giving it more love. Also does your soil have good drainage ?
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Re: Disease tomatoes, please help.

remove the diseased parts leaving the good leaves, also remove the tomatoes, it will help it unload the burden, if by next week things are still as they are then do as applestar said

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Pathfinder wrote:remove the diseased parts leaving the good leaves, also remove the tomatoes, it will help it unload the burden, if by next week things are still as they are then do as applestar said
I just went and pulled it out of the ground. I don't want to take the risk of it spreading to my other plants. I have like 15 others. Man that sucks, i felt so bad pulling it out of the ground ;-;

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Re: Disease tomatoes, please help.

You had some nice ripe green tomatoes on that vine. Use those for a stir fry, fried green tomatoes, or casserole. My wife has many uses for mature green tomatoes and all are very tasty! One of my favorites is to wedge the tomatoes and stir fry with onion, and peppers. Then add a liberal amount of corn bread stuffing mix and optionally top with cheese. We usually add a good splash of hot sauce over the top as well.
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Re: Disease tomatoes, please help.

hendi_alex wrote:You had some nice ripe green tomatoes on that vine. Use those for a stir fry, fried green tomatoes, or casserole. My wife has many uses for mature green tomatoes and all are very tasty! One of my favorites is to wedge the tomatoes and stir fry with onion, and peppers. Then add a liberal amount of corn bread stuffing mix and optionally top with cheese. We usually add a good splash of hot sauce over the top as well.
Oh the tomatoes in that one picture is from one of my other plants. I was just asking about the rotten tomato. Just about all of my plants have at least 1 rotten tomato on them. It really sucks, i feel like I'm failing. Not all of the blooms on my tomato plants are making tomatoes, hell i have entire blooms stems just drying up and dying and i don't know why. What am i doing wrong? I water regularly, the soil i have them in is extremely rich and fertilized. The other day i watered them with epsom salt to try and stop them from rotting. I see people of youtube just growing tomatoes like it's nothing.

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yup, if you have 15 others then that's ok, I have only 2 that's why ... better not to take risks. by the way use baking soda as recommended by Gary Pilarchik on Youtube

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the soil i have them in is extremely rich and fertilized
This could be part of the problem. Tomatoes do well without over much fertilizing. They are better off with less nitrogen and more phosphorus and potassium.

Let's go over what you put in the soil. :?:
Also, this time post done photos of entire plants, with separate close up if needed.
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Re: Disease tomatoes, please help.

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the soil i have them in is extremely rich and fertilized
This could be part of the problem. Tomatoes do well without over much fertilizing. They are better off with less nitrogen and more phosphorus and potassium.

Let's go over what you put in the soil. :?:
Also, this time post done photos of entire plants, with separate close up if needed.
Ok well we used triple 13 as the fertilizer.(dads decision not mine) And the soil is already very rich because about 15 years ago my dad bulldozed acre of land and pushed all the trees and stuff into one pile. It was left to decompose for 15 years, thus leaving rich soil. I haven't had any soil test done to this dirt, but I'm fairly certain the soil is rich enough to support some tomato plants.
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the plants look healthy to me

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Pathfinder wrote:the plants look healthy to me
The plant is healthy, but if you look closely at that one small tomato it actually has started rotting.

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Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:15 pm

The half rotten tomatoes appear to have blossom end rot. That is caused by calcium deficiency and is most often caused by irregular water supply

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Pull off the rotting ones. You can't save them and your plant can use that energy in a better way than ripening rotting fruit. Water regularly.
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