They advertise its really 6lbs i wonder if its true only 80 days from seed
OK, thanks TZ. I think I'm getting it better now.TZ -OH6 wrote:Luck of the Draw is a phrase better used for the random genetic recombination going on with hybrid offspring. With the OPs it is the effect of environment on developmental variation. Some flowers are bigger than others, some are fused, some are on the main vine rather than on suckers. The grower can manipulate both the environmental conditions (water, nutrients etc) and pick big flowers on the main vine and hand pollinate them so that they will have maximum seeds and grow as large as possible. But to answer your question, there is nothing you can do to make the next generation any different (genetically) than the current generation.
With a hybrid you have one of those lottery machines with the flying balls inside, so it is luck of the draw if the numbers/gene combinations code for a plant with fruit larger than the parent plant. Most will not be winners, but a few will be. And it is possible that the new best offspring, which still has some genetic variation, could give rise to an even larger fruited offspring, but at some point the genetic variation would be weeded out and fruit size would stabilize and you would want to cross the plant with another to insert some new genetic material.
Yes and no LOL Genetics get complicateddigitS' wrote:This is very interesting!
I'd never thought of it before (and you can correct me if I'm wrong).
A tomato variety is made up of, essentially clones. Since the flower is closed, the plant clones itself each generation . . . the offspring is genetically identical to the parents.
Therefore . . . . you cannot selectively breed within a variety of tomatoes!
The only way you could select for characteristics would be to cross one variety with another and select from the offspring. Perhaps, you might need many offspring to choose from, for some desirable characteristic. There might be a good deal of variation amongst the offspring. Or, I suppose, there might not be.
I've always thought that I could choose the "best" plant out of a number that I was growing, and save seed from that plant. Really, the "best" plant was probably just the one in the most favorable location.
If I missed a name for all this, that's okay. This idea of a closed flower seems a little too strange for words, anyway . Even tho', I've known about it for years and take advantage of it when I've grown many varieties fairly close together - without worrying much about cross-pollination.
Thank you for this information and please let me know if I've gone astray on any of this.
Hey Steve,digitS' wrote:I see . . . !
Well, this idea that tomatoes are "open-pollinated" is a bit confusing when the tomato flower "isn't open for pollination," shall we say.
I know that cross-pollination does occur with them at times but I've had one variety for which I've saved seed for over 20 years with no noticeable change in the plants or fruit. Those plants have been right in amongst up to 20 and more other varieties. Probably not such a great idea but that's been the reality in my garden.
Thank you for helping me get a better understanding of this.