Marlingardener wrote:You are very wise to start small, and expand your garden later. It's easy to make a garden larger, but very heart-breaking to have to make it smaller!
About your grass and tree problem. The grass can be taken care of easily by simply placing cardboard over it. Get plain cardboard from boxes, no slick surfaces, and lay it on the soil and wet it thoroughly (this keeps it from blowing about in the wind). If you have some mulch, you can put it over the cardboard, which will make the area look better, and mulch is always a good thing.
Pests and insects in the ground? Well, dig up a 1' square section and see what is in it. If you have worms (good), if you have grubs or nematodes (bad). Take a photo and post it on the Organic Disease and Pest Control forum and you'll get help.
If grasses and weeds are growing in the area you want to plant, you probably don't have a salt problem. Again, post photos of what you have growing there now on the Plant Identification forum, and explain that you need to know if these plants grow in saline soil.
The trees, how big are they? If they are seedlings (1"-2" in diameter) dig them out. If they are bigger, cut them at the soil line, and douse them with household vinegar. You may have to soak them with the vinegar twice just to kill the roots.
You are taking a very rational approach to your new garden, and you'll have a thriving garden in a couple of years. Patience and wanting to learn are what leads to successful gardening, and you have both!
Thank you very much for your reply and answers.
Let's take your answers one by one so i can understand it much better, if something else i may ask or you may explain more, and hope you wouldn't mind that.
I am starting small because i don't want to turn my garden to fully only fruits and vegetables or herbs, i need to keep some what is there, mostly in the backyard as i don't think i will go to backyard to check plants, there is one man who do watering my garden so i can ask him if i need to check something or not, and that backyard contains large trees that gives shadows and also one or two trees have flowers that attract birds and some flying insects, nice view to our kitchen so i want to keep it that way, so i will take a small portion which is the side yard, i don't know how you all the yard but if the main house is nearly in the middle but more towards to the back side of my land, further away to the main gate i mean, so the back side i call it backyard and our indoor kitchen has the view to that, so i won't touch this part of the garden.
About the grass, i didn't understand your points about using the cardboard, do you mean to cover that grass on the area i need with cardboard or just take out the grass and add cardboard? i don't want to make new ground over the grass or the existing area and then put new soil, i just want to use the soil that is available in my garden, i just want to remove the grass and the trees, say the upper surface to little deep, then i can just add little more soil mix or repair that soil already there after i remove plants i don't need, my garden has grass grown already all over it and some plants i don't know, the trees are there since a while years ago by that person, i have to dig to remove them from roots, but the tress are only on the borders of the garden not in the center of the garden, so most of the center[or middle] of the garden is only grass and some weeds, so i am now sure if i dig deep to take trees out what will be there left? i don't want to plant new plants after i remove the trees and treat the soil then suddenly some of the previous trees roots will grow back again after a while, but i still want to know about this cardboard part, if you can show me some pics from anywhere about your point so i can understand it much better.
About pests or insects, i am not good in identifying the pests much, i know worms but not sure if most worms are look alike or different, and what is good and what is not good, i will dig and check out and i will take photos and show you [in proper section] if necessary so you can tell me what is it, but if i found those bad pests as grubs or nematodes then how i can get rid of it? i think the answer will be in another thread or you can answer here with few straightforward words, whatever it is i hope to get the answer, later i will do that.
I think you are right, if there is salty soil then i won't see those grasses and trees, i just mean the pH maybe as i read different plants need different pH soil, salt is bad to all plants except very few in general, so let's just forget about salt then, but i want to know how good the available soil and how i can replace or enhance it if possible or to clean it for new plants.
As i stated above, i will dig deep to remove the trees, i am not looking to add vinegar or burn or whatever, i will try to remove the trees completely from roots, if it will not remove the roots really completely then i will add vinegar, but if do add vinegar and then add soil, will this affect the soil later for new plants? i want to use the same place of those trees, no point to remove them from roots but keep some of the roots and add vinegar and then leave that place, i want to use every inch of the garden, if i keep most trees with some roots with vinegar then i will not have enough space or areas to plant new plants, so is there an effective way to remove the trees completely then use the same ground for new plants without wasting any space left from previous trees/plants?
Honestly speaking, i wasn't interested in the gardening or growing plants since very long time ago, i had it when i was a kid just as curiosity but while i was growing i never care about plants, just this year after suffering from very bad financial situations and i have one french friend i chat with online only or on my mobile whatsapp, he showed me the plants he is growing in his very small apartment, this suddenly grown my interest in plants and then i asked myself why not start to have plants i need or eat by myself so i can save money, so i bought some ready plants pots while i was renting a place but i didn't take care of them and they died, but when i moved to my house and saw my garden then the idea became stronger and i started to germinate seeds as he told me and i saw the results with germination, so i came here asking or looking for the next important steps after germinating as i can't keep most plants in those small pots then it is pointless, i will keep only very small plants or herbs that don't need large space with deep ground, but most what i germinated sounds need large and deep space as soon as possible, and as you said, i have no choice but patience, and those plants i germinated were just tests, i feel happy it grows, some still growing and some sounds nearly dying, not sure why but i think i have to check the space of pots and also watering rate, the soil sounds fine because all seeds i plants even after germinating did grow with leaves, but some just didn't grow more and some also went to brown color, so i know now how to germinate and it will grow, but next step is to prepare the ground so each plant can grow healthy and successful, most pots sharing more than one same plants and that may lead to not good growing and also size of pot affect it too.
Thank you very much for your answers, and i hope i can have more answers and guides so i can keep going [and growing plants] and show you the results and i live good enough with my plants.