Supermarket Tomatoes II
It is the beginning of the new season in Miami because it takes a while for the cooler air to reach us here. I have a few Supermarket tomato seeds started for my first plants. More to come later.
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burger king tomatoes are just as yucky as the ones you have on the burger.Garf wrote:I assume that tomatoes grown in a home garden and vine ripened will be better than one processed commercially. The first batch was pretty good. I'm also looking for disease resistance.
I am amazed they survive the microwave and still grow.
The seeds were free,it was from a buy one get one free burger deal.
McD tomatoes are also yucky.Growing those in the garden makes no difference.And yes they are full size,even tho the parent was hybrid.
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I admire your adventurous nature in planting seeds from supermarket tomatoes. I hope you are keeping your expectations low.
First issue is that supermarket tomatoes are Hybrids. Any plants or fruit that you get will not be true to the parent plant.
second issue - even when growing in containers you need to consider spacing requirements. Indeterminate tomatoes grown vertically with the suckers removed will do fine in a 12" pot. Determinate tomatoes, even caged, need a spacing of 36". Since you have no way of knowing if your seeds will produce determinate or indeterminate plants you need to treat them as if they are determinate. One plant in a LARGE pot. 18 gallons is a great sized pot but crowding 3 plants in one pot will restrict the growth, use up nutrients and encourage pest and disease.
Good luck with your experiment. I am curious to see how your plants and fruit turn out.
First issue is that supermarket tomatoes are Hybrids. Any plants or fruit that you get will not be true to the parent plant.
second issue - even when growing in containers you need to consider spacing requirements. Indeterminate tomatoes grown vertically with the suckers removed will do fine in a 12" pot. Determinate tomatoes, even caged, need a spacing of 36". Since you have no way of knowing if your seeds will produce determinate or indeterminate plants you need to treat them as if they are determinate. One plant in a LARGE pot. 18 gallons is a great sized pot but crowding 3 plants in one pot will restrict the growth, use up nutrients and encourage pest and disease.
Good luck with your experiment. I am curious to see how your plants and fruit turn out.
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Dumb question.
How are you looking for disease resistance? I'm familiar with gardening and have been doing it for a good while, but always wondered how you find such traits in plants.
Also, for Store bought tomatoes re-grown from seed they're not looking all that bad. My Purple Charokee(bought seeds from a shop) are about the same size as the last picture you posted.
How are you looking for disease resistance? I'm familiar with gardening and have been doing it for a good while, but always wondered how you find such traits in plants.
Also, for Store bought tomatoes re-grown from seed they're not looking all that bad. My Purple Charokee(bought seeds from a shop) are about the same size as the last picture you posted.
My rule of thumb is if the plants are still alive when the frost hits them they are disease resistant.Gardener_Wes wrote:Dumb question.
How are you looking for disease resistance? I'm familiar with gardening and have been doing it for a good while, but always wondered how you find such traits in plants.
Also, for Store bought tomatoes re-grown from seed they're not looking all that bad. My Purple Charokee(bought seeds from a shop) are about the same size as the last picture you posted.
The only one that passed the test for me was a wild matt's wild cherry.I had 25 varieties in the garden this year and most were dead by september.You can't blame the earth because some were in large containers with primo potting soil and they still got diseased.I have a cutting from a matt's and saved seeds so I may try grafting experiments when they are big enough.
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Well junk. I feel stupid. I don't really focus to much on packet info. I check for how deep, how much spacing, zoning and then I just start them from seed.Garf wrote:When you buy seeds, the packets are marked with their resistances (VFFNT). I figure commercial tomato growers look for disease resistance to avoid losses.
Looking great. I grew 2 plants from the supermarket last year they were campari. I had a couple of bushes, just to see what happened and they came out great. Even though the seeds came from store bought tomatoes.
One thing to note, is that some commercial growers use Ethylene to ripen the crops so this means a couple of things. First of all the fruit stinks because it's not mature yet, and wasn't ready to ripen, it also means that seeds inside the tomato may not be fully developed and can have problems germinating.
One thing to note, is that some commercial growers use Ethylene to ripen the crops so this means a couple of things. First of all the fruit stinks because it's not mature yet, and wasn't ready to ripen, it also means that seeds inside the tomato may not be fully developed and can have problems germinating.
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Interesting -- are they all growing like this? I wonder if they had some dwarf genes in their make-up (I believe dwarf trait is recessive.
FYI:
Subject: Learning • Practicing to Cross Breed Tomato Varieties
FYI:
Subject: Learning • Practicing to Cross Breed Tomato Varieties
applestar wrote:As for the genetics and basic concept of what kind of progeny these may produce, this is always a good guide: https://kdcomm.net/~tomato/gene/genes.html
...you may have seen it before.
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My feeling as well.ElizabethB wrote:I admire your adventurous nature in planting seeds from supermarket tomatoes. I hope you are keeping your expectations low.
There are some 12,000 tomato varieties, including thousands of heirlooms with known parentage and documented flavor. Even if I had 5,000 square feet of garden space, I'm not sure I could spare a spot for a seed from a tasteless red baseball from Walmart.
Hopefully your results prove me wrong and you get something tasty and productive!!
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