- hendi_alex
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What is your favorite method of growing potatoes?
I've tried both in the ground and in containers with just limited success. Any ideas would be appreciated. I'll probably try some red new potatoes, to toss in with green beans.
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Hey Alex. Got your cue.
I have to run now, but here are a couple of links from previous posts. Let me know if you ahve anyh questions.
https://www.helpfulgardener.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=152867#152867
https://www.helpfulgardener.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=139241#139241
I talk about the potato silo (yeah, I lied. I had two of them) in couple of other posts if you do a search. Also, if anyone (besides Eric/DDF ) hasn't noticed already, I'm weak with numbers. I give different dimensions for these silos in different posts. Anyway, you get the idea.
I have to run now, but here are a couple of links from previous posts. Let me know if you ahve anyh questions.
https://www.helpfulgardener.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=152867#152867
https://www.helpfulgardener.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=139241#139241
I talk about the potato silo (yeah, I lied. I had two of them) in couple of other posts if you do a search. Also, if anyone (besides Eric/DDF ) hasn't noticed already, I'm weak with numbers. I give different dimensions for these silos in different posts. Anyway, you get the idea.
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I like to plant my tatars in the ground. I dig a shallow trench ,5 or 6 inches deep, and place my seed potatoe in the bottom about 9 inches apart. Then I cover with soil, and wait for it to grow. When it gets 6 or so inches tall I pull soil up around it and wait again for it to grow. Then I pull up more soil and wait again. I will do this till I have mounds almost a foot tall around my plants.
I plant my potatoes early, because they die back when it gets hot. They will stand a light frost, but will need covered for a hard freeze. You can pull soil up over them, or mulch to protect them from a freeze.
I plant my potatoes early, because they die back when it gets hot. They will stand a light frost, but will need covered for a hard freeze. You can pull soil up over them, or mulch to protect them from a freeze.
I just got my issue of Organic gardening and it did a article on Seven Ways to plant Potatoes. It gave the pros and cons of their experiments with each types as well as photos. Here is a link to it, honesty most of the people on forum have the best ideas, but it was really a good article - it looked at hilled rows, straw mulch, raised beds, grow bags, garbage bags, wood box and wire cylinders. I liked the pros vs cons and they compared yields as well. I just feel lucky mine look good this year - I did hilled rows. I will probably be back in a month or so with more questions as they get bigger.
https://www.organicgardening.com/learn-and-grow/7-ways-plant-potatoes
https://www.organicgardening.com/learn-and-grow/7-ways-plant-potatoes
we grow our potatoes in big barrels or anything that is a giant container. gophers here absolutely love potatoes and will devastate any in ground crops. I find harvesting to be a lot easier as well. last year I had half wine barrels that gave me about 15-20 lbs of potatoes each. absolutely stuffed with spuds.
I cover the potatoes with leaves then when they start coming up I through some dirt on top and a few more leaves and have very few weeds! Saw dust seems to work good also! I am going to try the pine wood shavings this year mixed with dirt! Those bags at the tractor store have 5.5 cubic feet for $5 and I think will work great! How about leaves wood shavings and straw on the top with a sprinkle of soil on top!
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Growing potatoes is no big deal. The problem is there has been a hundred different things tried and most of those has been published at one time or the other. Lets keep it simple! Have you ever been to a potato farm? Here is how the pros do it and it works. Forget all those other goofy instructions and just do this:
Plant in good fertile soil. Fertile being the key word here.
Plant the sets 4 inches deep 12 to 14 inches apart. One or two eyes per set.
When the plant is 8 inches tall, hill it, one time. Pull up three to 4 inches of soil around the plant. This to keep the tubers from seeing daylight and turning green.
Keep the soil damp.
Control the bugs.
When the plant dies down dig them spuds.
No use making such a simple thing complicated.
Edit to add: Planting time is one week before your average last frost.
Plant in good fertile soil. Fertile being the key word here.
Plant the sets 4 inches deep 12 to 14 inches apart. One or two eyes per set.
When the plant is 8 inches tall, hill it, one time. Pull up three to 4 inches of soil around the plant. This to keep the tubers from seeing daylight and turning green.
Keep the soil damp.
Control the bugs.
When the plant dies down dig them spuds.
No use making such a simple thing complicated.
Edit to add: Planting time is one week before your average last frost.
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They love strawberries and carrots too. I didn't lose any spuds this past season. Occasionally I get rodent damage to tomatoes, but not sure if its gophers or mice. One winter I left a row of carrots in the ground and covered it with straw, to insulate. Come spring I had one continuous gopher mound the length of the row, and no carrots. "Kitty" is my best defense.
PS just looked at my harvest record for last season.
I had two 35 foot rows. They yielded 218 pounds of taters total.
PS just looked at my harvest record for last season.
I had two 35 foot rows. They yielded 218 pounds of taters total.
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DDF, I didn't weigh the seed taters. I doubt if it was over 7 or 8 pounds though, for over 200 pounds of taters. I consider it a very worthwhile return. I planted some that had been in storage through winter. Didn't cost me a thing. I cut them with two eyes per set. Just thinking about planting a little piece of potato maybe 1 to 1 1/2 inch with two eyes on it and getting back 4 or more of those nice taters for that little set I planted. If I planted one per foot, I had about 70 plants in that planting. You do the math.
soil, Weird, I have never had any trouble with anything eating my onions. Eat a lot of potatoes? Not so much now that its just me and the wife, but when the kids were home, ya, we ate a lot of potatoes. I used to grow a ton each year.
I put some in a pit last fall, its about time to go dig some up. If the gophers didn't find my stash. I was hoping for the snow to get off before opening the pit, but I may just go do it snow and all. Just looking at my notes, I put 77 pounds of taters in the pit along with carrots, cabbage, beets and a turnip. Now I really want to go open the pit. We bought a head of cabbage and it had zero flavor. I have not put cabbage in a pit before, so it will be interesting to see if it made it.
soil, Weird, I have never had any trouble with anything eating my onions. Eat a lot of potatoes? Not so much now that its just me and the wife, but when the kids were home, ya, we ate a lot of potatoes. I used to grow a ton each year.
I put some in a pit last fall, its about time to go dig some up. If the gophers didn't find my stash. I was hoping for the snow to get off before opening the pit, but I may just go do it snow and all. Just looking at my notes, I put 77 pounds of taters in the pit along with carrots, cabbage, beets and a turnip. Now I really want to go open the pit. We bought a head of cabbage and it had zero flavor. I have not put cabbage in a pit before, so it will be interesting to see if it made it.
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[img]https://donce.lofthouse.com/jamaica/tater.jpg[/img]
I planted this big spud with multiple shoots as an experiment.
[img]https://donce.lofthouse.com/jamaica/taters_h.JPG[/img]
This is what I got out of it. Of course there is multiplication and a gain in weight, but I don't think any of those potatoes were as large as the one I planted. This is what I expected. If you want larger potatoes it is best to cut sets with one or two eyes for planting. Each one of those shoots will send up a vine and produce a tuber or two, however because the vines are so crowded the tubers do not get as large as they would if the vine had more room and was not in competition for sunlight and soil water and nutrients.
I planted this big spud with multiple shoots as an experiment.
[img]https://donce.lofthouse.com/jamaica/taters_h.JPG[/img]
This is what I got out of it. Of course there is multiplication and a gain in weight, but I don't think any of those potatoes were as large as the one I planted. This is what I expected. If you want larger potatoes it is best to cut sets with one or two eyes for planting. Each one of those shoots will send up a vine and produce a tuber or two, however because the vines are so crowded the tubers do not get as large as they would if the vine had more room and was not in competition for sunlight and soil water and nutrients.
I have not tried it yet, as I don't have the right terrain but my grandpa told me a neat way he used on hills. Dig out a furrow about a foot deep and line it with an old carpet. Scatter a layer of straw then plant the potatoes as normal. Cover them with more straw and gently water. Once the plants grew about six inches tall, add more straw to make a hill
At the end of the season, remove the straw. He had four sons so the oldest three stood at the top of the hill and grabbed the carpet. He and his youngest son stood at the bottom with burlap bags. The ones at the top would start pulling on the rug, causing the potatoes to roll down the hill into the bags!
Mike
At the end of the season, remove the straw. He had four sons so the oldest three stood at the top of the hill and grabbed the carpet. He and his youngest son stood at the bottom with burlap bags. The ones at the top would start pulling on the rug, causing the potatoes to roll down the hill into the bags!
Mike
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My grandfather use to grow some good potatoes in Illinois. He cut off the potatoe eyes placed them on the soil surface and covered them with about 1" of soil. As the plants grew he kept covering them up with more soil to make a hill row. He always had 1 row of pototes about 50 ft long and about a ft tall. When the plants turned yellow and started to die he pulled the plants out of the soil by hand and most of the potatoes stayed attached to the plants and pulled right out of the ground. He let the potatoes dry in the sun for a short time then put them in the seller.
When I lived in Illinois I could grow good potatoes too but I can not grow good potatoes in Tennessee. I think it is too HOT here. RED potatoes grow best for me.
When I lived in Illinois I could grow good potatoes too but I can not grow good potatoes in Tennessee. I think it is too HOT here. RED potatoes grow best for me.
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I do have slightly acidic soil, and I do normally grow good potatoes, when nothing else will grow. Not so for 2010 it was just too dry, driest year in 65 years for here. They gave up and died almost instantly, 2009 was not good either, too wet, and they rotted. Here's hoping 2011 will do much better.
But, I turn the bed well, then lay the potato eyes, and then sprinkle dirt back over them, only about 1/4" thick. I cover the whole planting with dry leaves, and water it well. Once the potatoes are up and growing well, I continue adding leaves, until leaves simply won't stay put on the beds.
The potatoes grow well, and bloom like crazy, soon it is a beehive of activity. Then they set seeds and start dying back, usually with the approach of fall. Often, it is actually too warm for them to store well, when the last tops die back, so the issue then becomes, what to do with them. The answer is normally, let them dry, cure, and air out some, then take them inside under a/c until outside temps cool some, about the end of November they can go outside again.
When I dig them, I do sometimes have bug issues... they look like grubs, I assume they are june bug grubs? They also are very hard on carrots, and tulips. Of course, you can spot the bug weakened plants before they even begin to bloom. I am not sure that I have ever seen a gopher, other than in photos or cartoons.
But, I turn the bed well, then lay the potato eyes, and then sprinkle dirt back over them, only about 1/4" thick. I cover the whole planting with dry leaves, and water it well. Once the potatoes are up and growing well, I continue adding leaves, until leaves simply won't stay put on the beds.
The potatoes grow well, and bloom like crazy, soon it is a beehive of activity. Then they set seeds and start dying back, usually with the approach of fall. Often, it is actually too warm for them to store well, when the last tops die back, so the issue then becomes, what to do with them. The answer is normally, let them dry, cure, and air out some, then take them inside under a/c until outside temps cool some, about the end of November they can go outside again.
When I dig them, I do sometimes have bug issues... they look like grubs, I assume they are june bug grubs? They also are very hard on carrots, and tulips. Of course, you can spot the bug weakened plants before they even begin to bloom. I am not sure that I have ever seen a gopher, other than in photos or cartoons.
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I hill my potatoes with a hoe and it is easier for me to hill up, a little at a time as they grow, than to do it all at once. Also, I have to plant in early March way before my last frost date(April 15) to beat the heat we get in May. Some old timers plant their potatoes in Febuary, but my garden is usualy to wet to work then. In cooler climates waiting to plant is probably best, but it does not work for me.jal_ut wrote:Growing potatoes is no big deal. The problem is there has been a hundred different things tried and most of those has been published at one time or the other. Lets keep it simple! Have you ever been to a potato farm? Here is how the pros do it and it works. Forget all those other goofy instructions and just do this:
Plant in good fertile soil. Fertile being the key word here.
Plant the sets 4 inches deep 12 to 14 inches apart. One or two eyes per set.
When the plant is 8 inches tall, hill it, one time. Pull up three to 4 inches of soil around the plant. This to keep the tubers from seeing daylight and turning green.
Keep the soil damp.
Control the bugs.
When the plant dies down dig them spuds.
No use making such a simple thing complicated.
Edit to add: Planting time is one week before your average last frost.
What is the purpose of hilling the plants? I got a package of 10 seed potatoes from Home Depot last year and just put them in the ground, no cutting or mounding or anything, and ended up with about 8 pounds of small red potatoes. This year I'm going to cut the seed taters up, but just wondering if mounding them will get any better results.
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If the tubers form and push upwards and the sun hits them, they turn green and bitter. The green is actually toxic. The reason to hill them is to provide a cover over those tubers so they don't see the light. No other reason.
You will get larger tubers if you cut your potatoes with one or two eyes per piece to plant.
You will get larger tubers if you cut your potatoes with one or two eyes per piece to plant.