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Potatoes! I need help!

Hello all I've never really had a garden before this year except maybe some tomatoes and chiles so I am lost a little bit when it comes to certain things I planted 2 potato bulbs I came across and I think it's sprouting. Today I seen a green stem pop out of the soil and it looks almost like a really thick baby weed but I know it's not a weed and it is about where I planted my potatoes. Does it sound right to you guys, is it my potato? Can you guys give me a description on what it's suppose to look like. Also I was wondering how many potatoes grow out of one bulb is it just one per bulb like an onion or will there be multiples? One more thing how do I know when it is time to harvest my potatoes and onions? Thanks in advance for your input. I appreciate it much. :lol:

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Hello,

Potatoes are stem tubers and you should get about 10 to 1. 10 pounds for ever 1 pound planted. They produce new tubers above the seed potato, so hilling up is recommended. Click on this link below and do a Search the Forum for more information.

https://www.helpfulgardener.com/forum/search.php

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The potato plants are thick stemmed and pretty looking once leafed out.

Here's a picture of a whole bunch of potato plants

https://www.hort.purdue.edu/ext/senior/vegetabl/images/large/potatoplant.jpg

here's a drawing of how they grow:

https://potatoplantpress.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/potato-plant2.jpg

So you can see what DDF was talking about, the tubers (that is the potatoes you want) grow under ground but ABOVE the seed potato piece you started with. So you have to give room for that to happen.

I am growing potatoes for the first time this year, in a large container. I planted the seed potatoes near the bottom of the container. As the vines grew, I just kept adding soil, til the container was full.

You could do the same kind of thing, just by putting a cylinder of something (sheet metal, window screening, whatever) around each potato plant. As the plant grows just keep filling in the cylinder with more topsoil.

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If you do not have extra soil you can use several things to cover the stem and promote tuber growth. Straw and leaves are commonly used to create "hills" for the tubers to grow in. Hilling with dirt by digging trenches on each side of the row helps keep the soil loose, making it easier to dig the tubers out. Don't do like I did my first year and plant in a trench and back fill with heavy clay soil. Digging tubers out of gooey clay 8-10 inches down was a nightmare.

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rainbowgardener wrote:I am growing potatoes for the first time this year, in a large container. I planted the seed potatoes near the bottom of the container. As the vines grew, I just kept adding soil, til the container was full.
I did this last year in potato grow bags with Russian Banana fingerlings but it didn't work the way I expected. I put the seed on about 2 inches of soil in the bottom, then kept adding more soil as the stems grew up until the entire bag was filled. When I harvested them all of the little fingerlings were at the very bottom of the bag. There were no roots or potatoes at all along the stem and there wasn't much room for the potatoes to grow down at the bottom.

I wonder if this is just the case with fingerlings. I made a mistake in choosing this type of potato since it needs a longer season so most of the fingerlings were really small.

This year I'm trying again with an earlier season regular type, purple potato, starting them on top of 6 inches of soil, buried them deeper and plan on hilling to the top of the bag.

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Almost all of the potato varieties that you can easily get your hands on (Red Pontiac, Yukon Gold, etc) have been developed to grow their tubers in a standardized mechanized "hill" of a certain width and height, so it would be very unusual for them to produce tubers where they are not supposed to. Some, but not many, varieties produce tubers on longer runners, which cause farmers trouble with poisonous green potatoes sticking out of the hill.

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Thank You all sooo much all this info was so very helpful I had no Idea how to grow or harvest potatoes and honestly didn't think they were gonna grow when I planted them it was an experiment I think only one of the potato seeds is gonna grow cause my black lab puppy chewed on the other one a little bit so the stem broke off.LOL! Any way I guess I'm gonna go down to the nursery and buy a plastic planter I'm a cut out the bottom and use the planter as the cylinder. So I have one more question how long do they take to grow usually when and how do I know when to harvest them? How many months do they usually take to grow to their fullest? Thank you so much for all the great info and photos. :clap:

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You can start harvesting new potatoes, about a week or so after blossom stage. Just dig down and pluck a few. Don't get to greedy you won't have many large tubers later. Wait until plants die down to harvest the rest.

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Case of most of the potatoes on the bottom. Possible causes:

- insufficient moisture: Keeping the soil/mulch moist all along the stem promotes tuber formation. This is why it's critical that potatoes are planted in well drained location (or if using containers, with plenty of drain holes and using well draining medium). Otherwise, the effort to keep the upper area moist will drown the ones on the bottom.
- insufficient time: You said it was a longer maturing variety. The tubers mature from bottom-up.
- insufficient nutrients: Perhaps the plant exhausted all available nutes in the container if you weren't adding compost, etc. I like to mix compost in the hilling material (soil, sand, pine needles, leaves, straw, hay, weed and grass clippings)

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You may not want to call it quits on the one your dog chewed off. I have seen them come back 3-4 times in a one year after something like that.

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Also I was wondering how many potatoes grow out of one bulb is it just one per bulb like an onion or will there be multiples?
A potato tuber has several eyes. Each eye is capable of sending up a stem. If you plant the whole tuber, you may get from one to fifteen, or more, stems. When you hava a large number of stems growing in such close proximity, you get loads of new tubers, but they will mostly be small because of the competition. On the other hand if you cut the potatoes to one or two eyes per piece, you will get one or two stems from each and they will produce much larger tubers. You may get several tubers per stem.

In spite of all that has been written about covering potatoes up over and over, you only need to hill them one time. Wait until they bloom then pull 3-4 inches of soil up around the plant. The reason for doing this is so that as the tubers develop, they won't come out of the ground and turn green in the sunlight.

I reckon there are as many ways to grow a potato as there are people doing it. If you stick with it long enough, you will one day have your own style. In the meantime, you may go nuts trying to sort it all out.

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jal_ut wrote:In the meantime, you may go nuts trying to sort it all out.
This goes for vegetable gardening in general. Not just for potatos. And truer words have never been spoken.


PS - Search for "potato tower". There's great info in those threads as well. I'm growing mine potatos in one of those. This is my first year to try them and after a slow start, 8 out of 9 potato chunks have sprouted and are growing!

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angel, as jal stated theres lots of ways to have potatoes. The good thing I have found is that they are one of the hardiest little critters in the garden. they seem almost impossible to kill or not get to grow. I hill mine one time and have had excellent luck doing it this way. I normally dig mine once the plants have died telling me "their done". to me the potato is about the easiest keeper in the garden. good luck and happy gardening!

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This year I really wanted to try to grow potato because I saw a post from Jal w/ his success.

I found out I was pregnant and doctors orders were no bending, lifting etc etc.. (long story) any who and I posted a while back about growing potatoes in straw  I don't know if it's working but the plant (now plants) continue to pop thru the straw which means I throw more straw on top of them. I can't believe how tall the plants are growing, I'll need to find the post and update it again.

Yes and I would have gone crazy w/ all the different ways of growing potatoes but w/ straw I didn't have to dig or hill ….. just sit a bale of straw on top of my work bench, grab some and layer it on top. I don't know if it'll be successful but we’ll see. 

Side note: This is AWESOME when it comes to working w/ my 4 yr old. She LOVES when it's time to do the straw. She grabs a big chunk and loves that we have to water it down.

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Zapatay, don't forget that at some point, you'll want to let the potato plant grow out of the straw and develop lots of top growth for photosynthesis to develop the tubers.

One of my potato towers/"silos" looks like this, and I'm not adding any more mulch. Just keeping it watered:
[img]https://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/applesbucket/Image7002.jpg[/img]
As you can see, it's starting to flower, which some one has said is when you should stop hilling (it might have been jal... or maybe jbest.... I'm sorry I can't remember... :oops:).

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How tall is the mulch vs green? And why a tower (very cool) and not just a mound of hay?
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Hi! I am from Long Beach, California-Where did you buy your potato plant? I saw them on the Burpee website but I don't want to pay that much for the plant when you can buy a whole bag for 99 cents at fresh & easy. I would like to grow poatotes but I don't want to pay too much to get started on another garden project-I just spent alot on a raised tomato bed. :shock:

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You can sprout grocery store potatoes. Cut them in chunks, each with a couple eyes. Stand the chunks up (with the eyes upward) like in an egg carton, on a window sill where it will be warm and light. Wait until the eyes sprout and then plant them.

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gardengrl3...I just say seed potatoes at my local ace. They are not expensive at all. There you can buy as many or as few as you want. I ordered mine this year and it is the same variety.

I can attest to the face that potatoes will grow back many many times. In my 3 rows of potatoes some are 2 feet tall and some are 2 inches tall! Not easy to hill when that's the case I assure you but they keep coming back despite the cutworms!

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The store bought potato I put into my tower are going crazy. It was a big spud and I'd read that store potato's usually had a sprouting inhibitor so I planted 8 pieces hoping to get a few to take. Well of course they all took, so now I'm wondering if I should pull some to make room. I'm happy to leave them but if I need to pull a few, then I will.

Anyone?

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This will give you the info you need to decide how many plants to grow in a given area.

https://www.cipotato.org/library/pdfdocs/TIBen5099.pdf


Fewer plants = larger potatoes and maximum number per plant. Higher density of plants = smaller tubers, fewer per plant but more pounds of potatoes for the same area up to the point where competition reduces tuber formation of all the plants.

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TZ -OH6 wrote:This will give you the info you need to decide how many plants to grow in a given area.

https://www.cipotato.org/library/pdfdocs/TIBen5099.pdf


Fewer plants = larger potatoes and maximum number per plant. Higher density of plants = smaller tubers, fewer per plant but more pounds of potatoes for the same area up to the point where competition reduces tuber formation of all the plants.
Great info. Thanks for that.

A few of the sprouts are way behind the others, so I think I'll pull those to make some room and see how that works. I should be ready to add level #2 onto the tower this week. It's amazing how well these things are growing.



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