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Re: 2017 - what peppers are you growing?

Apple,

I don't think I've had peppers or seeds destroyed by fungus gnats, but I used to have them every year, until I found a solution: Microbe Lift (actually, I used to use another, more dilute brand, but it is only available in 2.5 and 50 gal amounts now!). This is a liquid with Bacillus thuringiensis israelensis - the same thing in mosquito bits and dunks, and extremely concentrated. Only 8 drops/gal needed, and one 6 oz container lasts me two years, since I only use it every 4or 5 waterings (just watered my indoor plants with it today). When I moisten the pro mix or whatever when I am getting ready to pack the pots for planting, I use this, so it is in from the beginning. I use filtered water when mixing it up - I figure chlorine might kill the bacteria. I have NEVER had fungus gnats in my house, since using this! The cheapest place for it is an Aquarium place online, where it sells it as a mosquito control for ponds. I can always find enough to get the free shipping ($50), since I have 4 aquariums, as well.
https://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/p ... atid=12263

I used to use this in my hydroponics, but now I just break off pieces of mosquito dunks, and drop them in every few weeks.

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Hi there,
Last year was my first experience with hot peppers. I've used the papper towel method and work fine. But as I've started in the wrong time of the year, all the small plants died due to the cold weather.
This spring I decided to go on a diferent approach and I'm using the IKEA Vaxer hidrophonic system. Nursery is very good to germinate. Both Carolina Reapers as Trinidad Moruga Scorpion germinated in two weeks and I've moved some plants already.
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Looks cool. How much did you pay for that? Retails in the UK for 58 pounds which is about $75 USD.


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pepperhead212 wrote:Apple,

I don't think I've had peppers or seeds destroyed by fungus gnats, but I used to have them every year, until I found a solution: Microbe Lift
Thanks, pepperhead! I'll have to keep this in mind when my container of Mosquito Bits run out. :D

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These pepperd have sprouted. Most are multiples and some are already in individual K-cups:

Pepper, Giant Marconi - mottled (SIP'15)
Pepper, Jalapeño (winter Feb'15/9.5.16)
Pepper, Jaloro Jalapeño (paprika garden 8.5.16, Ellie's last)
Pepper, NuMex Jalmundo (vendor Ellie'15) - may not be true to type
Pepper, NuMex Lemon Spice (patihum 8.16.16)
Pepper, Santa Lucia Island (paprika deck 8.21.16)
Pepper, Shishito (DrBTX'15)
Pepper, SuperVar Fish (Jan'15)
Pepper, Sweet Chocoloco (Ellie'15)
Pepper, Trinidad Scorpion Chocolate (geoffrey44)


...I think I goofed with the supervar Fish -- I meant to grow out seeds from a fruit that matured tangerine orange rather than the normal red type....

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webmaster wrote:Looks cool. How much did you pay for that? Retails in the UK for 58 pounds which is about $75 USD.
It's not expensive.

Prices in Euros: https://www.ikea.com/pt/pt/catalog/categ ... ing/35170/

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The first sowing of peppers are out in the greenhouse with the heat turned on.

I'm tired of waiting for sunshine in the South Window! The seedlings have needs that are not being met and the greenhouse has more sunlight. Those peppers are developing true leaves. It won't be above 64°f unless the sun comes out but I'm doing something to be of help.

The second sowing will stay in the house where only the Jalapeno are sprouting. They are one of the laggards in the first batch. Armed with new seed this time - I have that part of the pepper patch covered. I hope! Now to see if I get a few more bells to sprout.

Old seed for both the Jalapeno and the King of the North bells did begin to emerge recently. They are so far behind that the other varieties will inhibit their growth and when I begin to drag the others out to go in their individual containers - the newest seedlings won't be ready to be disturbed. Well, I tried.

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Hello,

I just want to give you an update. Yesterday I've installed the LED light from the IKEA Vaxer System. Let's see if it works well.
In a couple of days I'll transfer to the last pot available two Peter Penis Pepper that are sprouting now.
I'll have in this system 3 type of peppers. Carolina Reaper, Trinidad Morouga Scorpion and Peter Penis Pepper.
What I don't know yet its what I'll do when they grow and I need to move them..Continue in Hydroponics or move them to soil.
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Its not easy to separate out in this group shot, but here is a Maui Purple, originally one of a seedling pepperhead shared with me back in 2015. It was looking very sad from mite infestation but has recovered after the predatory mites were introduced.

I'm starting to train it -- opening up the center for more air circulation and better shape -- by bending down the stems and branches. The branches with purple flowers are part of Maui Purple. I'm excited about the trunk characteristic -- those bumps will look cool after I clean up the twigs.

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Later on when everybody goes outside, I'll be able to take individual portraits of this and other ones I'm designating "bonsai (bonchi) wannabe" :()

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This year I'm growing

Black pearl
Lemondrop
Carolina reaper
Devils tounge
Basket of fire
Peter pepper
Hungarian hot wax
Jalapeño
Ring of fire
And an overwintered orange wonder that I stuffed in a bonsai dish which has just started to produce flowers.

I'm sure there are more but can't think off the top of my head.

I bought numex twilight seeds that didn't germinate so I have ordered these as plugs from seaspring seeds along with a veriaty they call 'stumpy'

This photo was taken about 3 weeks ago (I hope it uploads)
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You guys are growing some really hot peppers!

I'm growing...
  • El Jefe
    Glow
    Wisconsin lakes
    Sweet Chocolate
    Tiburon
    Purple Bell

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Hi my name is Richard. I am new to this forum so forgive me if I'm posting this in the wrong spot or if I'm not using proper etiquette for the Forum. I grow pequin , serranos and tabasco's. I have never grown a super hot so I decided to try growing a Carolina reaper. I have heard all the horror stories about people geting the wrong seeds from amazon. I know these pods are young but can any one confirm this is a reaper and not a scorpion or any thing else . Thanks
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It seems like reaper. You can see the "sting" forming at the bottom of the pepper.

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:D Awesome Thank you I have a hard time telling the differance between the reaper and the butch t. Now I hope they don't deviate like they say in all the rumors I have read.

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The problem with instability has to do with how many generations have passed. It takes 8-10 generations to breed stable seed for most cultivars. If you are lucky it will be hot, if not, don't save those seeds.

Most of the new hybrids may have issues with instability that should work itself out over time. The older hybrids will breed truer.
I had mostly bad luck with Jalapeno M which had variable heat on the same plant, so now I grow other varieties that are older and much more reliable.
I did end up with a reaper that had zero heat and a scotch bonnet that was not as hot as it should be. Sometimes it is just the luck of the draw. None of these non-hot seeds were from saved pods, they were all purchased seed. The only good thing about that is that if the seeds were not from a box store but from a catalog, they usually will refund or replace the seeds.

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imafan26 thank you for the reply that was very informative. I hope these turn out good but if they don't next year I will order from a catalog instead of Amazon. I didn't know it took 8-10 Generations to stabilize a crossbreed. I have never crossed bread a pepper before but I would like to. I think that's something I might need to research a little more.

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I have a hybrid variety - Thai Nippon Taka - that I have grown since the 80s, but it was taken off the market about 10 years ago. I used the last seeds, but saved some that last year, and started growing from those. Each year the plants would be different, but still good, and I'd save the seeds from the plant that looked closest to the original, and it was still not quite stable after 6 times. This year, I found seeds called Nippon Taka on a site - not sure if they are the same, as the heat listed is well under the original, but I'm growing both this year. If only I knew the 2 parent plants of the original, I could make my own!

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That's good to know. deviations are normal. I have seen a lot of videos on cross breading and I can't wait to give it a try. And I hope you have good luck with the Thai Nippon Takas

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Yesterday I planted
Hawaiian Chili
Super Chili
Anaheim
cubanelle
Ghost Pepper
Habanero
Scotch bonnet
Caribbean Red Habanero
Shishito
Banana pepper
Cascabella
Its a little late so I hope they sprout.

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I've only got orange mini bell, early Calwonder and early Jalapeno from seed, but we'll see what seedlings I impulsively buy when they're out in the stores. ;) (Last frost still a month away)

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Here is my list of peppers for the season. On 4-19 I planted the habaneros and reaper in Earthboxes and under WOWs - 46º is the lowest low in the long forecast, so these should be safe.

:evil: = did not get a sprout
*= early planting

New:

Aleppo*
Buena Mulata (Purple Pepper)
Carolina Reaper*
Godfather sweet
Habanada*
Thai Chik Fee Na (new source) :evil:
Thai Dragon (new source) :evil:
Thai Nippon Taka (new source) :evil:

Old:

Big Jim
Fresno
Hanoi Market
Jalafuego
Habanero - chocolate*
Habanero - Red Savina* :evil:
Habanero - gold bullet*
Habanero - white bullet *
Superchili
Superthai
Thai Nippon Taka
Thai Vesuvius

All of the chinense peppers I started on 2-18, and two Aleppos I started on 3-5, and one Ichiban Eggplant on 3-5 - the last 3 to fill up pots should have been other peppers. The Aleppos I got in a trade, and wanted to get an idea of what to expect, when I would normally plant them, and they did great! I didn't put any out, however, as they are probably going to be a target of the pepper maggot fly, being mild, so I'll have to wait until I get the cover set up, for the rest of the mild peppers. And hopefully May will be much warmer than last May, so I can do it earlier!

Here are some photos showing how slowly those peppers grow, at first, then they take off! And the size of that Eggplant amazes me, after just 6 weeks! How do people plant these 8 weeks in advance, or even longer, as often recommended?

3-19 a month after planting:
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3-23 Just 4 days later!
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3-30 Just a week later!
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4-3 4 days later:
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4-9 6 days later. You can see how the eggplant and the Aleppos, on the left side, have caught up with and surpassed most of the others planted two weeks earlier:
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4-14 5 days later, after repotting on 4-12, and putting them under a new light source:
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And here they are just before planting, in Earthboxes, and under WOW's, on 4-19, Aleppos on left:
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Here's the Reaper in the Earthbox, to give an idea of how large it had gotten:
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And here's that Reaper next to the Ichiban EP, to show how huge that thing got in just over 6 weeks. It is too large to put under a WOW, so I'll have to keep it indoors, until early May.
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And here are the Chocolate Habs:
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I'm truly surprised by how many varieties of my seeds did not germinate. This year, of all years. I usually start them all in my basement and then bring them up to my dining room when they get 3" tall. Well this year, they were all started in the dining room as work was being done in my basement, and the windows were open a lot, leaving it too cold to germinate.

So, this year I tried in my dining room.... plenty warm, and kept moist. I only had 25% seed germination overall. My tomatoes did fine, but peppers were brutal, and those that have bloomed took way longer than usual. I have some peppers that are just now sprouting after 12 ( or more ) weeks since seeding.

I ordered some plants from a guy in California. Should be here this week, I hope.

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My germination was poor too. I got one habanero, a couple of anaheims, and cubanelles and I am still hoping on the rest. I did plant them at the wrong time of the month (moon planting; I should have planted them the week before.) It has also been raining a few days in a row and that can cause issues with dampening off especially since I used MG potting soil. I just planted more seeds in sunshine # 4 which is closer to peatlite, so I am crossing my fingers that I get better germination. I am in a good window for cucurbits but I don't know about peppers. I get my best gerimination in peppers when I plant in the second and third week of the month. This month has five weeks and that is throwing me off a bit. I hope it is a better time for cuttings.

The rain brings out the snails and I caugt a big one on the side of my ginger pot. I had to use the hoe-matic to break the shell.

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Here are mine after 41 days. Brazilian starfish is getting huge. Carolina Reapers and Trinidad Scorpion are growing nicely!
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Did I mention Brazilian Starfish grows differently from other peppers? Did you know?

The plant should be treated like cherry tomato vines and the branches should be bunched and tied to a tall stake. Mine was a 7 ft pounded down to 6 ft. last year. And this winter, I potted it up in a 12" tall pot, cut it down to 3 ft so and overwintered it on a windowbench (18" H). It is now scraping the ceiling, waiting for me to take it outside for the season. :oops:

You are better off moving that one out so the light can be lowered for the rest of the peppers.

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Subject: Applestar's 2016 Garden
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- Do you recognize a pepper plant next to the green fence post in the foreground? That's the Brazilian Starfish pepper at the end of the '16 Cherry Lane cherry tomato row. They are still all green fruits and eye-ing the weather forecasts for pending frost, but you GOTTA grow this crazy pepper alongside your regular indeterminate cherry tomatoes. The growth-habit of this tall 'vine-like' plant fits right in, and you can't beat the fun shape of the fruits.

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That is good to know. Someone gave me a seedpod of starfish, but I haven't planted it yet.
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So, I will NEVER try to grow my own super hots ( from seed ) ever again. The guy I bought from in California shipped me ( 16 ) 3" super hots with 8 different varieties. They arrived in perfect condition, all for $30. My only gripe was that 4 of the varieties are "chocolate" varieties..... but that is kind of my fault.... I just told him to "surprise me", and if possible, include some chocolate peppers.

The most awesome looking one is called Big Mama Mustard.... huge and scary looking. Kind of greenish yellow.

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My Pequin Tabasco Scotch bonnet and carolina reapers are all producing. I am defiantly going to order more of a verity next year

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An update since my last post on March 22nd. After two months I've moved 9 plants to soil and they are growing well as you can see in the photos. Still have 6 plants in hidro, but I'll have to move them soon as they are reaching the light.
Brazilian Starfish is growing a lot... Carolina Reapers and Trinidad Scorpion growing at a slow pace, but with good green color.
P.S. - As you can see in the photo, I still maintain them indoor. Can I start moving them to the balcony outside?
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I grow sweet bell peppers only. They grow much better in acid soil with lots of sand and peat moss. My Son grows, Habanero, Scorpion, Ghost and Jalapeno.

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So, I put my peppers out 3 days ago... 2 days ago it rained like crazy..... today I was afraid to go look, thinking my peppers would be damaged. Nope..... a few of them seem to even have doubled in size. Nice 70 degree temps, mostly cloudy... so at least they didn't get ruined by overwhelming heat - which we had last week..... they would have just crumpled up.

This isn't me, but this is the pepper I am most wanting to see fruit:

MA Wartyx

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Most of my peppers went out into the garden, two days ago.

Yesterday, there were 30mph winds! The plants had been hardened off for cool conditions and direct sun, had plenty of water but no protection from the wind. I'm afraid to go out to see how they did ...

I can replace 100% of them at the moment but hope it doesn't come to that.

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I'm afraid to go out to see how they did ...
^^^ right there. Know the feeling. :|

In my case, earlier today, forecast was for "light rain" but it was raining a lot harder than THAT! Checked the weather app and yellow all around with orange and red sitting right over us :eek: I was afraid to even look out the window.

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sweetiepie wrote:I am so glad to see that I am not the only person who plans on a bunch of peppers this year. I had so many peppers last year that I pickled them and within one month my friends and neighbors had bought them all up. So of course that just encourages me to plant more. :-()

I have started Chocolate Reapers, Yellow Reapers, Carolina Reapers, Ghost, Chiltepin, and Scorpion peppers.

I plan on planting Ancho, Jalapeno, hot chilli, cayenne, North King Bell, Hungarian Cheese, Mini Belle Blend, Cherry Pick, Chablis, Time Bomb, Blight Buster, Quadrallo, Sensation, and Sweet Gourmet.
I have a Blight Buster and now can't find any information on it on the internet. It's like it disappeared. Can you tell me where you purchased your seed or plant and do you have an idea what the plant looks like. I have one growing but it looks like a weed. Thinking the actual plant died and it is a weed growing there but don't want to pull it out until I am sure. Can you help me?

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Welcome to the forum!

Something funny happened with me, involving Blight Buster - I got a free seed packet from Seeds N' Such, and thought it was a tomato variety, since I had never had blight on peppers, and the seeds were smaller, like tomatoes, so I never really looked closely at the envelope, or the catalog description. I just noticed that something in a tray of tomato seedlings looked like a pepper seedling! After looking closer, I realized what I had done.

It is a bell pepper, so I planted it under cover, with all the others that are prone to pepper maggots. Too early to tell you much about it.

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I have cayennes, Hawaiian chilis, Snapper, and Red Belgian just starting to fruit now. Red belgian surprised me. It was one of the first to fruit and it put out a pale yelow wedge shaped fruit. It stuck up more than anything else. I expected it to hang down more like a bell pepper. It hasn't turned red yet. So far only one fruit on each plant, but the snapper only has one too. The hot ones always produce more peppers than the large sweet ones.

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This is my first year of doing peppers (and everything else). I am planting Jalapeno's, Thai Chili, Poblano and yellow & red bell peppers. So far so good. Most of them I started from seed and I am super happy to see them looking so good!!

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Overwintered peppers have ripe fruits already.

:() Pasilla Bajio and Shishito -- saving seeds from these since Winter Indoor fruitset means much less chance of accidental cross pollination.

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tinidad scorpion, butch t Trinidad scorpion (not sure what the difference is, so far I don't see any), naga inferno, Carolina reaper, bhut jolokia (ghost pepper), some hybrid jalapeno don't remember the name, and a variety of sweet bell peppers.

I wish I would have planted some Cheyenne and serrano. nest year I suppose.

I'm also growing san marzano sp? and roma tomatoes. there will be lots of salsa, catsup, hot sauce, tomato juice/whole, powdered peppers. and I'm sure some other flaming hot concoctions. thinking of pre seasoning and canning ground beef for chili



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