Harvested first Dark Copia Heart*
I cut it open today and it's definitely a beefsteak-type fruit:
-- I saved seeds. It will be interesting to see what will grow from the saved seeds. Someone else got a gorgeous striped bi-color from same batch of seeds as mine.
...and more Sailor's Luck, Butter Apple, Not Liguria, Juicy Saladette, and some cherries ...
...Dark Copa Heart* (bottom) and other biggest fruits (Wes, Lucky Cross and Japanese Black Trifele, new cross {Not Purple Strawberry x Sergeant Pepper's F4} F1), relative to standard pair of garden pruners:
Another view of Lucky Cross (Top Left), etc.
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Re: Applestar's 2015 Tomato (and Pepper and Eggplant) Garden
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Reason: Added revised info about off-type DCH cross
Reason: Added revised info about off-type DCH cross
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My larger varieties are just reaching near ripe stage. I generally pick them 2-3 days before, as soon as there is an ever so slight softness to the blossom end but the equator to shoulders are still hard. Then keep them in paper/tea towel lined daisy trays, baskets and colanders atop cookie cooling racks for full airflow to finish ripening indoors.
So far, only one variety had a mild surface fissure in the skin. -- but there is anti-rain device in my town that causes storm clouds to split or dissipate before reaching us, and we tend to not get the lovely rain that falls everywhere else but here. The storm systems that have split or fizzled out typically re-group AFTER they have safely past our airspace.
Among the cherries, there is one new-to-me variety that has been splitting every time I think to check if any is ripe. Fortunately so far finding on the morning when it split so no loss to bugs, etc. Another splitter is the familiar-to-me Coyote. I usually pick Coyote and Matt's Wild Cherry when they are fully ripe on the vine (fall off if you touch them) for max flavor, and they tend to split if pulled off the calyx or if they are dunked in too cold water for washing.
Good luck with your harvest! Hope you get lots of good ones.
So far, only one variety had a mild surface fissure in the skin. -- but there is anti-rain device in my town that causes storm clouds to split or dissipate before reaching us, and we tend to not get the lovely rain that falls everywhere else but here. The storm systems that have split or fizzled out typically re-group AFTER they have safely past our airspace.
Among the cherries, there is one new-to-me variety that has been splitting every time I think to check if any is ripe. Fortunately so far finding on the morning when it split so no loss to bugs, etc. Another splitter is the familiar-to-me Coyote. I usually pick Coyote and Matt's Wild Cherry when they are fully ripe on the vine (fall off if you touch them) for max flavor, and they tend to split if pulled off the calyx or if they are dunked in too cold water for washing.
Good luck with your harvest! Hope you get lots of good ones.
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These determinate hanging basket tomatoes seem to be finishing up. They already lost most of their leaves -- I thought to foliage disease but maybe also because of senescence:
... Hundreds and Thousands
I think I should have been more generous with fertilizer for these tomatoes planted in hanging baskets (a new experiment this year). I'm worried that they would dry out so I water daily and soak them. With H&T, I smartened up and put a bucket underneath at the base of the shepherds hook to drip the nutrient dense leachate into, then I water from the bucket. I water the others from reservoir buckets with resident goldfish mosquito control, and they have been dripping over planted garden beds -- and I think the plants below have been benefitting.... So I suppose THAT is a good thing.
Tumbling Tom Yellow with Cream Sausage still going strong in the background ... Hundreds and Thousands
I think I should have been more generous with fertilizer for these tomatoes planted in hanging baskets (a new experiment this year). I'm worried that they would dry out so I water daily and soak them. With H&T, I smartened up and put a bucket underneath at the base of the shepherds hook to drip the nutrient dense leachate into, then I water from the bucket. I water the others from reservoir buckets with resident goldfish mosquito control, and they have been dripping over planted garden beds -- and I think the plants below have been benefitting.... So I suppose THAT is a good thing.
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Center Row
{Not Dark Copia Heart (top)}, {NDCH (bottom)}, {Hawaiian Pineapple, Cherokee Lime Stripes (bottom)}
Bottom Row
{Cow's Tit, Cream Sausage, Sailor's Luck}, {Not Liguria (2), Konigin der Fruhen, Juicy Saladette, Northern Delight (2)}, Black Seaman x Pink Berkeley Tie-dye F3PL Plant#1}, {Hawaiian Pineapple, Cherokee Lime Stripes (top)}
Not Dark Copia Heart fruit cluster befor harvesting: BSXPBTD F3PL (why does the photo look like this is from plant #2?.... )
{Not Dark Copia Heart (top)}, {NDCH (bottom)}, {Hawaiian Pineapple, Cherokee Lime Stripes (bottom)}
Bottom Row
{Cow's Tit, Cream Sausage, Sailor's Luck}, {Not Liguria (2), Konigin der Fruhen, Juicy Saladette, Northern Delight (2)}, Black Seaman x Pink Berkeley Tie-dye F3PL Plant#1}, {Hawaiian Pineapple, Cherokee Lime Stripes (top)}
Not Dark Copia Heart fruit cluster befor harvesting: BSXPBTD F3PL (why does the photo look like this is from plant #2?.... )
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LEFT Column::
- Vernissage Yellow
- VRFF F2
- Japanese Black Trifele
CENTER Top and Bottom (clockwise from top left)
- Juicy Saladette (5)
- Clackamas Blueberry
- Carolina Belle peach (last of 9 fruits)
- Japanese Black Trifele
- Jersey Giant (2)
- Northern Delight (2)
- VRFF F2
- Vernissage Yellow
- Butter Apple (2)
- NPSP F1 plant #2 (2)
RIGHT Column
- Clackamas Blueberry
- Jersey Giant
- NPSP F1 Plant #2
TOP in White Bowl
- Yellow Chello
- Red Idyll
- Small ivory Coyote
- White Soul Alpine strawberries
- Prelude 2nd crop raspberries
BOTTOM Row
- Chello
- Idyll cluster from two different views (Stormin Norman in the background)
TOP
- Maid of Orleans tea jasmine
- Bolivian Rainbow peppers
BOTTOM
- Immature Tromboncino squash in front, last of Solstice broccoli side shoots, Red Russian Kale, Feurio Red Chard, Butterbeans edamame, Golden Wax Improved bush beans with one Purple Podded Pole bean
GROUP Photo
Slicers/Beefsteaks
(Top row)
- Dark Copia Heart Not F1
- NSPS F1 #2 (2)
(Bottom Row)
- Dwarf Emerald Giant Not F2
- Hawaiian Pineapple
- Girl Girl's Weird Thing
RIGHT Column
Saladettes/Cherries
- round Juicy Saladette (4)
- egg Northern Delight
- green Samocvet Nefritovy
- yellow Chello
- not Rose Quartz Multiflora (3)
- Coyote (4)
- Champagne Cherry (2)
Hawaiian Pineapple
Dwarf Emerald Giant Not F2
- Vernissage Yellow
- VRFF F2
- Japanese Black Trifele
CENTER Top and Bottom (clockwise from top left)
- Juicy Saladette (5)
- Clackamas Blueberry
- Carolina Belle peach (last of 9 fruits)
- Japanese Black Trifele
- Jersey Giant (2)
- Northern Delight (2)
- VRFF F2
- Vernissage Yellow
- Butter Apple (2)
- NPSP F1 plant #2 (2)
RIGHT Column
- Clackamas Blueberry
- Jersey Giant
- NPSP F1 Plant #2
TOP in White Bowl
- Yellow Chello
- Red Idyll
- Small ivory Coyote
- White Soul Alpine strawberries
- Prelude 2nd crop raspberries
BOTTOM Row
- Chello
- Idyll cluster from two different views (Stormin Norman in the background)
TOP
- Maid of Orleans tea jasmine
- Bolivian Rainbow peppers
BOTTOM
- Immature Tromboncino squash in front, last of Solstice broccoli side shoots, Red Russian Kale, Feurio Red Chard, Butterbeans edamame, Golden Wax Improved bush beans with one Purple Podded Pole bean
GROUP Photo
Slicers/Beefsteaks
(Top row)
- Dark Copia Heart Not F1
- NSPS F1 #2 (2)
(Bottom Row)
- Dwarf Emerald Giant Not F2
- Hawaiian Pineapple
- Girl Girl's Weird Thing
RIGHT Column
Saladettes/Cherries
- round Juicy Saladette (4)
- egg Northern Delight
- green Samocvet Nefritovy
- yellow Chello
- not Rose Quartz Multiflora (3)
- Coyote (4)
- Champagne Cherry (2)
Hawaiian Pineapple
Dwarf Emerald Giant Not F2
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Harvest photo 8/10/15
- mature Tromboncino ( x Kikuza pollen)
- a couple of onions
- wax beans, one Dragon Tongue, Butterbean edamame
- tomato basket with a jalapeno and Corno di Toro
- Prelude fall crop starting (2)
- Maid of Orleans tea jasmine
Beefsteaks and Slicers (left to right)
TOP
- Not Purple Strawberry x Sergeant Peppers F1 Plant#1
- not Dark Copia Heart (F1)
BOTTOM
- Berner Rose (Rose de Berne)
- Alonzo's Medals to be (still in development this one is not heart)
- Wes
Saladettes and Cherries
- Vernissage Yellow
- Körningin der Frùhen / Queen of Earlies (pink)
- Not Brazillian Beauty (F2) - immature fell off
- Northern Delight (no calyx)
- Bison (w/ calyx)
- Amethyst Cream (1)
- Juicy Saladette (4)
- Rose Quartz Multiflora not (2 cherries)
- Not Carbon Copy (2 w/ calyces)
LIDS
- Petite Pomme Blanche (1)
- Coyote (5)
- Rose Quartz Multiflora not (2)
- Amethyst Cream (1)
TOP three
- Alonzo's Medals to be
- Pink Siberian Tiger (antho top)
- Not Liguria (blushed fell off)
- Pit Viper F5 (not true to type)
BOTTOM left to right
- Juicy Saladette (1)
- Rose Quartz Multiflora not (4)
- Prelude raspberry fall crop (2)
- Coyote HBR volunteers (4)
- Chello (1)
- Champagne Cherry (2)
- Zuckertraube (no calyx split in rinse bucket)
- Mohamed (atypical runt)
- mature Tromboncino ( x Kikuza pollen)
- a couple of onions
- wax beans, one Dragon Tongue, Butterbean edamame
- tomato basket with a jalapeno and Corno di Toro
- Prelude fall crop starting (2)
- Maid of Orleans tea jasmine
Beefsteaks and Slicers (left to right)
TOP
- Not Purple Strawberry x Sergeant Peppers F1 Plant#1
- not Dark Copia Heart (F1)
BOTTOM
- Berner Rose (Rose de Berne)
- Alonzo's Medals to be (still in development this one is not heart)
- Wes
Saladettes and Cherries
- Vernissage Yellow
- Körningin der Frùhen / Queen of Earlies (pink)
- Not Brazillian Beauty (F2) - immature fell off
- Northern Delight (no calyx)
- Bison (w/ calyx)
- Amethyst Cream (1)
- Juicy Saladette (4)
- Rose Quartz Multiflora not (2 cherries)
- Not Carbon Copy (2 w/ calyces)
LIDS
- Petite Pomme Blanche (1)
- Coyote (5)
- Rose Quartz Multiflora not (2)
- Amethyst Cream (1)
TOP three
- Alonzo's Medals to be
- Pink Siberian Tiger (antho top)
- Not Liguria (blushed fell off)
- Pit Viper F5 (not true to type)
BOTTOM left to right
- Juicy Saladette (1)
- Rose Quartz Multiflora not (4)
- Prelude raspberry fall crop (2)
- Coyote HBR volunteers (4)
- Chello (1)
- Champagne Cherry (2)
- Zuckertraube (no calyx split in rinse bucket)
- Mohamed (atypical runt)
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8/17 Harvest Photos
CORN
- Glass Gem (2)
- Glass Gem x Golden Bantam
- Kandy Korn F1 x (Glass Gem, Golden Bantam)
- Golden Bantam x Glass Gem
CHERRY TOMATO/berries, Jasmine
- red Rose Quartz MF not (4)
- yellow Chello
- ivory Champagne
- tiny Hundreds and Thousands (14-3=11)
- Jasmine blossoms (2)
- Prelude raspberries, some with grey mold?
- Triple Crown blackberries (2)
GROUP PHOTO including 3rd stevia harvest wax and purple beans, Dixie Butterpeas, Solstice broccoli side shoot
- Girl Girl's Weird Thing
- Beauty King
- Gail x Everette's Rusty Oxheart F3 PL Bi-color (cat)
- Hawaiian Pineapple (2)
- Butter Apple
- Carbon Copy not (6)
- runty Feherozone or Romanian Rainbow
- Fish LeastVar (2)
- Tollie's Sweet
8/18 Harvest Photos
TOP
- Group incl. Jasmine blossoms, basil, cuke, wax/purple beans and Kikuza squash
- Glass Gem all from GG patch
BOTTOM LEFT & MIDDLE
- MoCross Elgin #9, Wes, Mikado White PL
- Lyn's Mahogany Garnet, Bosque Blue (2), Not Brazilian Beauty F2
- Juicy Saladette (4)
CHERRY BOWL
- medium red Rose Quartz MF not (3)
- large red Idyll (2)
- brown grape Stormin Norman (3)
- small ivory w/ calyx Petite Pomme Blanche vgc (2)
- small ivory no calyx Coyote hbr (3)
- small ivory w/ calyx Champagne (11-1=10)
CORN
- Glass Gem (2)
- Glass Gem x Golden Bantam
- Kandy Korn F1 x (Glass Gem, Golden Bantam)
- Golden Bantam x Glass Gem
CHERRY TOMATO/berries, Jasmine
- red Rose Quartz MF not (4)
- yellow Chello
- ivory Champagne
- tiny Hundreds and Thousands (14-3=11)
- Jasmine blossoms (2)
- Prelude raspberries, some with grey mold?
- Triple Crown blackberries (2)
GROUP PHOTO including 3rd stevia harvest wax and purple beans, Dixie Butterpeas, Solstice broccoli side shoot
- Girl Girl's Weird Thing
- Beauty King
- Gail x Everette's Rusty Oxheart F3 PL Bi-color (cat)
- Hawaiian Pineapple (2)
- Butter Apple
- Carbon Copy not (6)
- runty Feherozone or Romanian Rainbow
- Fish LeastVar (2)
- Tollie's Sweet
8/18 Harvest Photos
TOP
- Group incl. Jasmine blossoms, basil, cuke, wax/purple beans and Kikuza squash
- Glass Gem all from GG patch
BOTTOM LEFT & MIDDLE
- MoCross Elgin #9, Wes, Mikado White PL
- Lyn's Mahogany Garnet, Bosque Blue (2), Not Brazilian Beauty F2
- Juicy Saladette (4)
CHERRY BOWL
- medium red Rose Quartz MF not (3)
- large red Idyll (2)
- brown grape Stormin Norman (3)
- small ivory w/ calyx Petite Pomme Blanche vgc (2)
- small ivory no calyx Coyote hbr (3)
- small ivory w/ calyx Champagne (11-1=10)
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8/24 Harvest Photos
Today's tomatoes totaled 7-1/2 Lbs. On zeroed for 2-gal bucket and clear bowl scale:
GROUP PHOTO
- (not pictured -- colander of Purple Ruben Basil and Sweet Dani Lemon basil, some Drangon's Tongue wax beans)
TOP RIGHT:
[large beefsteaks and hearts]
- light antho top pink Alonzo's Medals might have been
- green striped red Girl Girl's Weird Thing
- pink Fish Lake Oxheart (2)
- dark antho top and stripe Pink Siberian Tiger (2)
[salads and saladettes]
- striped purple Sailor's Luck (4)
- green striped red Lyn's Mahogany Garnet
- dark and light antho top yellow striped Purple Dragon (2) -- 2nd one was shaded
- sweet pink Whippersnapper x Faelan's First Snow less variegated F1
- dark antho top Brazilian Beauty not (3)
- runty Diamond eggplant (2)
- Mini Paprika Yellow pepper
- tiny red Bolivian Rainbow pepper (2)
- Vernissage Yellow
- Juicy Saladette (5)
WHITE BOWL
- Prelude raspberries,
- White Soul alpine strawberry
- tiny loose Coyote hbr (3)
- normal cherry size antho top Amethyst Cream (forgot to take topside pic)
- small Petite Pomme de Blanche (1)
- over exposed pile of Maid of Orleans Jasmine blossoms
- trusses of Champagne cherry
CLEAR BOWL
- fire engine red with antho Fahrenheit Blues (5)
- smaller Rose Quartz Multiflora not
- medium not Carbon Copy not
- large round mottled with yellow Idyll
- yellow pear-shaped Ildi
- large green when ripe Samocvet Nefritovy
- brown pear-shaped Stormin Norman
- Pink Siberian Tiger
- Fish Lake Oxheart
- Whippersnapper x Faelan's First Snow less variegated F1
- Fahrenheit Blues
Today's tomatoes totaled 7-1/2 Lbs. On zeroed for 2-gal bucket and clear bowl scale:
GROUP PHOTO
- (not pictured -- colander of Purple Ruben Basil and Sweet Dani Lemon basil, some Drangon's Tongue wax beans)
TOP RIGHT:
[large beefsteaks and hearts]
- light antho top pink Alonzo's Medals might have been
- green striped red Girl Girl's Weird Thing
- pink Fish Lake Oxheart (2)
- dark antho top and stripe Pink Siberian Tiger (2)
[salads and saladettes]
- striped purple Sailor's Luck (4)
- green striped red Lyn's Mahogany Garnet
- dark and light antho top yellow striped Purple Dragon (2) -- 2nd one was shaded
- sweet pink Whippersnapper x Faelan's First Snow less variegated F1
- dark antho top Brazilian Beauty not (3)
- runty Diamond eggplant (2)
- Mini Paprika Yellow pepper
- tiny red Bolivian Rainbow pepper (2)
- Vernissage Yellow
- Juicy Saladette (5)
WHITE BOWL
- Prelude raspberries,
- White Soul alpine strawberry
- tiny loose Coyote hbr (3)
- normal cherry size antho top Amethyst Cream (forgot to take topside pic)
- small Petite Pomme de Blanche (1)
- over exposed pile of Maid of Orleans Jasmine blossoms
- trusses of Champagne cherry
CLEAR BOWL
- fire engine red with antho Fahrenheit Blues (5)
- smaller Rose Quartz Multiflora not
- medium not Carbon Copy not
- large round mottled with yellow Idyll
- yellow pear-shaped Ildi
- large green when ripe Samocvet Nefritovy
- brown pear-shaped Stormin Norman
- Pink Siberian Tiger
- Fish Lake Oxheart
- Whippersnapper x Faelan's First Snow less variegated F1
- Fahrenheit Blues
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Since I'm growing so many peppers this year, they are necessarily crammed together in some very tight spaces. I'm trying to learn to bag unopened blossoms to prevent accidental cross-pollinating by nectaring insects, and even air currents, so I can save the seeds without worrying.
It hadn't been very successful so far because we kept getting very humid, very hot days soon after I bagged and the blossoms didn't set and all just died. This happened twice and I was discouraged... Less alert...
Then today, I realized something very important when I stumbled upon one of the bagged truss on a GIANT Marconi. I need to keep up with checking the bagged blossoms for signs of fruit set....
It hadn't been very successful so far because we kept getting very humid, very hot days soon after I bagged and the blossoms didn't set and all just died. This happened twice and I was discouraged... Less alert...
Then today, I realized something very important when I stumbled upon one of the bagged truss on a GIANT Marconi. I need to keep up with checking the bagged blossoms for signs of fruit set....
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It's tough keeping track of all those bags! It's also difficult finding unopened blossoms, esp. later in the season, as many that seem unopened are actually started peppers! It's sort of a catch 22, as I don't know which is the best plant, that I want to keep seeds from early, yet that is the best time to do it.
BTW, how is that pea EP doing?
BTW, how is that pea EP doing?
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This one is called Lucky Cross. It is gorgeous with yellow and red bicolor interior flesh and clear epi. Look at how the bicolor striping is revealed after slipping off the ripe "pink" (clear epi with red underlying flesh) skin.
SWEET front end flavor with complex, full flavored middle and lingering tangy/acid finish. EXCELLENT.
SWEET front end flavor with complex, full flavored middle and lingering tangy/acid finish. EXCELLENT.
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Terhune has been our family's Number One Favorite for flavor.
...But we had an upset tonight. DH SAID HE LIKES EARL'S FAUX BETTER.
DD2 still likes Terhune better, which was surprising because I thought Earl's Faux was just a bit sweeter and Terhune's lingering acid was sharper/more biting. They are both incredibly tasty varieties with great deal of flavor. Both starting out sweet, building up to full, rich explosion of flavor, and finishing with lingering acid.
This was first time I had two at almost exactly the same ripeness though. Hopefully they will produce a few more fruits to compare....
-- Definitely growing both as returning favorites next year.
...But we had an upset tonight. DH SAID HE LIKES EARL'S FAUX BETTER.
DD2 still likes Terhune better, which was surprising because I thought Earl's Faux was just a bit sweeter and Terhune's lingering acid was sharper/more biting. They are both incredibly tasty varieties with great deal of flavor. Both starting out sweet, building up to full, rich explosion of flavor, and finishing with lingering acid.
This was first time I had two at almost exactly the same ripeness though. Hopefully they will produce a few more fruits to compare....
-- Definitely growing both as returning favorites next year.
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I LOVE having these big tomatoes to slice up for sandwiches at the height of productive tomato season.
DH enjoyed the best center slice off of this one on his hamburger -- he looked so happy when he said it was bigger than the bun.
This is a new variety still undergoing segregation and selection process, but it's got great flavor with lingering acid tang (great in sandwiches because it asserts itself), productive with plenty of these bigger sized fruits. I grew two, and one plant produced flattened globe beefsteaks while this plant produced blunt hearts. This one is a fused bloom -- looks like a double. It also has a blush of antho in the shoulders.
DH enjoyed the best center slice off of this one on his hamburger -- he looked so happy when he said it was bigger than the bun.
This is a new variety still undergoing segregation and selection process, but it's got great flavor with lingering acid tang (great in sandwiches because it asserts itself), productive with plenty of these bigger sized fruits. I grew two, and one plant produced flattened globe beefsteaks while this plant produced blunt hearts. This one is a fused bloom -- looks like a double. It also has a blush of antho in the shoulders.
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Even though I am enthusiastic about growing tomatoes, a wrinkle has existed because DH has only shown interest in eating a slice or two of only the GREAT tasting bigger tomatoes in a sandwich a couple of times a week.
But I have discovered DH's weakness -- dehydrated tomato chips.
I made some a few days ago, using all four trays in the new dehydrator and yielding a 1 quart glass bowlful (Pyrex with tight sealing lid). I gave him one small piece to taste and he irresistibly finished the bowl in two days.
...I made some more today...
But I have discovered DH's weakness -- dehydrated tomato chips.
I made some a few days ago, using all four trays in the new dehydrator and yielding a 1 quart glass bowlful (Pyrex with tight sealing lid). I gave him one small piece to taste and he irresistibly finished the bowl in two days.
...I made some more today...
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This was from October 5:
This was from October 5:
...and today, I FINALLY got around to processing the seeds -- the fruit was getting browned and soft for about a week already....applestar wrote:Eggplant SIP as of today.
A Hari eggplant I'm hoping to collect seeds from, and the Pea eggplant blooming at the top of 10ft stems:
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I promise you won't regret it. So pretty, too when made with different colored fruits. I peel the skin and save the seeds from the top and bottom pieces, but keep the skin, gel and seeds in the equatorial slices for the stained glass effect.
I can't get to the next step which would be cooking with these. They disappear too fast
Dehydrated cherry tomatoes are not as popular, though they can taste like raisins if dehydrated to soft shriveled stage and kept in the refrigerator. I tried a batch that I soaked in chianti, then dehydrated and that was kind of yummy. There's too much skin and they can get rock hard when dehydrated crisp. I suppose one way to work with them after that is to try soaking them in olive oil.
I did take about 1/4 cup of the hard cherry tomatoes and ground them up into powder in my coffee grinder designated for spice grinding.
I can't get to the next step which would be cooking with these. They disappear too fast
Dehydrated cherry tomatoes are not as popular, though they can taste like raisins if dehydrated to soft shriveled stage and kept in the refrigerator. I tried a batch that I soaked in chianti, then dehydrated and that was kind of yummy. There's too much skin and they can get rock hard when dehydrated crisp. I suppose one way to work with them after that is to try soaking them in olive oil.
I did take about 1/4 cup of the hard cherry tomatoes and ground them up into powder in my coffee grinder designated for spice grinding.
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