MichaelC's 2016 garden

[MichaelC]

OK, I've got some progress pictures. I guess it's pretty obvious what's what, so I'll forego labelling them.

[MichaelC]

I ran out of attachments. Cukes:

And a couple shots of my fruit trees:

[Lindsaylew82]

How are you managing your fruit trees?

I'm having pretty frustrating problems with curculio this year.

[MichaelC]

How are you managing your fruit trees?

I'm having pretty frustrating problems with curculio this year.

I do very little overall. A heavy pruning in the winter, feeding seasonally, and thinning the fruit. I have two cherry trees that appear very healthy but have some sort of disease keeping them from fruiting properly. They blossom like mad, start setting fruit, and then all the fruit shrivel and die. I overheard some neighbors talking about their cherry trees dying, so I'm counting my blessings.

[MichaelC]

Mulch today. Cat turds be gone, I fervently hope.

[Lindsaylew82]

CATS LOVE MULCH!!! I love that mulch, too! Looks very niiiiiiiiiiice!

I love cats! But I have a serious dislike of people who let their animals roam. My neighbors are really irresponsible and disrespectful when it comes to their animals, who ALL use my yard as their personal litterbox. Dogs, though. We are currently out of cats.

[KitchenGardener]

So cool to see your hard work paying off! I bet your pea plants are huge now and your beans are going crazy. Have you gotten your pepper plants in the ground yet?

Oh, and I'm totally jealous of your irrigation system...I'm still too intimidated to even try assembling one. Maybe next year.

ETA: sorry, now I see that you did plant your peppers and there were more pics than I first saw. Your mulch looks great, as do all of your veggies.

[MichaelC]

I have two cherry trees that appear very healthy but have some sort of disease keeping them from fruiting properly. They blossom like mad, start setting fruit, and then all the fruit shrivel and die. I overheard some neighbors talking about their cherry trees dying, so I'm counting my blessings.

Well, as it happens both the very large and rather small cherry trees managed to bring a tiny handful of fruits to, well, fruition, and they were delicious. The nectarines will be done in a few weeks I reckon, the apples not till at least August.

[MichaelC]

So cool to see your hard work paying off! I bet your pea plants are huge now and your beans are going crazy. Have you gotten your pepper plants in the ground yet?

Oh, and I'm totally jealous of your irrigation system...I'm still too intimidated to even try assembling one. Maybe next year.

ETA: sorry, now I see that you did plant your peppers and there were more pics than I first saw. Your mulch looks great, as do all of your veggies.

Thanks so much, KitchenGardener. The peas have taken off though only some of the starts made it. They will fill their trellis for a bounteous but short harvest, from my experience. The beans are slow starters but produce heavily till I call it quits in autumn. They'll fill that whole trellis.

The irrigation system was actually pretty easy, an investment of perhaps $100 maximum including a decent timer. Spending a good amount of time staring at parts and pictures in a catalog and imagining it in my space combined for a decent start last year and a pretty good showing this year. I'm still wasting a few 1G/hour outlets and didn't get the outlets and plants to match up like I envisioned.

I'm anticipating another frustrating season for me for peppers - we'll see.

[MichaelC]

What I've got set up for this year's irrigation is four zones with dedicated valves attached to a single timer- trellis, cukes, tomatoes, peppers. The only unlike vegetables on the same line are the beans and peas. Later in the summer I can truncate that line to only water the beans.

Every day more or less, demanding on the weather, I set whatever plants need to be watered the next day via the timer and the valves.

[MichaelC]

I have two cherry trees that appear very healthy but have some sort of disease keeping them from fruiting properly. They blossom like mad, start setting fruit, and then all the fruit shrivel and die. I overheard some neighbors talking about their cherry trees dying, so I'm counting my blessings.

Well whaddayou know? We've actually gotten a couple dozen cherries to fruition this year! They are so good that I will endeavor to find out what's going wrong with them for next year.

I'm also excited that the plum tree my father in law tried his best to kill last year (never invite someone to help you prune unless you plan to closely supervise them!) has come back, and although I never noticed it blooming it has set quite a few fruit. Unfortunately, all the new growth is WAAAY up there, so I'm not sure how I'm going to harvest them. The first year we lived here, it fruited early and we harvested buckets full just as windfalls. So maybe that will work again this year.

[MichaelC]

The beans are growing like crazy and flowering but not climbing. I'm wondering if they were mislabelled bush beans.

[applestar]

Oooh, plums SHOULD be pruned rather hard and cut back all the tall shoots. They fruit on new wood.

Everything looks great! There are new challenges every year, but you keep learning how to deal with them, right?

My own cats are inside cats with only rare supervised outings, but my neighbor feeds cats that come to her yard -- apparently some are "homeless" -- no claimed human -- cats that roam from place to place. And THEY stop by my front yard to make deposits -- on the grass. They only rarely come into the back yard now because I literally run out and chase them off and send my children out too. But the front yard....

Some tricks that do work for a while -- pick up then spray spot and surrounding area with hot pepper and garlic water (soak and leave in a gallon jug -- kind of like making insect pepper/garlic spray -- or hot pepper powder (I dry and grind up all spoiled, damaged fruits and inner membranes and seeds I don't use or save) AND put down bits of thorny clippings along their paths (cats usually follow a set path) where I won't be poking around bare handed.

Good luck.

[MichaelC]

Hi applestar - he pretty much cut the entire tree (a large one) down to the trunk. As a result, last year it didn't even produce leaves!! I thought for sure it was dead. I'm no expert but I pretty much know what I'm doing with fruit tree pruning.

Now all of the new growth is about 15-20 feet above ground level. If I knew what the rootstock was, I might just give up on it and let one of the many scions it's trying to produce start over again.

I'll try to get you a couple photos.

[MichaelC]

OK, here's a couple pictures to show the scale of this plum tree and how high the foliage and fruit are.

[MichaelC]

So cool to see your hard work paying off! I bet your pea plants are huge now and your beans are going crazy. Have you gotten your pepper plants in the ground yet?

Sorry I missed responding to this. Yes, my peppers went in a week or two ago.

Oh, and I'm totally jealous of your irrigation system...I'm still too intimidated to even try assembling one. Maybe next year.

It was really easy! And even easier this second year after learning last year. Feel free to message me anytime for specific advice.

It wasn't expensive, and Peaceful Valley makes it pretty simple to figure out what you need and their prices are much lower than most places. I think I spent $100 tops including the electric timer (refurbished from amazon). This year I spent less than $10 for a few additional bits and bobs. 1/2" fittings of various types cost less than half than those from my local ACE. I also found very cheap fittings from Drip Depot via amazon.

I really like the emitter tubing, I was able to reuse it this year with no clogging. The only downside is the limitation of the 12" spacing, compared with regular drip fittings that you can put exactly where you want them. I was able to plan it this year so that each plant type has its own valve. I'm very happy with it, and in this drought couldn't justify a vegetable garden otherwise.

ETA: sorry, now I see that you did plant your peppers and there were more pics than I first saw. Your mulch looks great, as do all of your veggies.

Thanks so much for your kind comments! I need to put up some new pictures. I seem to be terrible at taking photos of tomato plants.

[MichaelC]

Time for some new photos.

First up, my beans. I'm starting to wonder if the starts I bought this year were mislabelled bush beans! But I can't remember exactly what they were doing this time last year. They are growing like crazy and just started flowering heavily. But they are showing no signs of going UP.

The cucumbers seem to be off to a pretty normal start.

The peas are clearly suffering from the heat, and I don't think they'll do as well as they did last year. I remember that last May was very cold. That's OK, the beans will take over that side later (that is, IF they are pole beans!) This little bunch seem to be soldiering through enough to provide a few pods:

The peppers are going slowly. Here's a couple:

This one is pretty sickly. It just started making a bunch of flowers, I'm keeping an eye on it.

[MichaelC]

Here are some shots of a few of my tomatoes, which are doing super. I'm just terrible at taking pictures of them.

I forgot to take a shot of the Sweet Million that I had to replace after 6 weeks of growth thanks to the antics of one of my feline friends. I also should take one of the volunteer (likely from Matt's Wild Cherry), which seems to be doing pretty well since I started fertilizing it. It is outside the area of soil that I cultivate.

[Lindsaylew82]

So pretty!!! It's looking really good, Michael!

[applestar]

Looking great! But you should just sow your own beans. Beans are easy. My DD's grew some beans that spilled out from hand-made actual bean-stuffed beanbags when they were little.

I have Christmas Lima bean that I bought just a small amount from the organic bulk section a couple of years ago, first year was a touch and go but collected seeds have shown more vigor. Usually they do better if you pre-germinate in a sprouter and plant just the vigorous ones. Larger beans like Lima's might be heat dried, which would reduce viability.

Stuff from the sprouting section has better viability since they are mostly expected to sprout.

...and of course you could get actuall packets of seeds

[cousinjordo]

Yup! tomato seeds must be extremely hardy! Everywhere I plant with my homemade compost I get volunteer tomato plants. I already pulled a couple this spring. It's amazing they go through the compost process, and through all the freezes in winter, you can look at your compost and not see any seeds, but as soon as you plant it they pop up!

So I've got a TON of what I believe with some degree of certainty are orange oxheart heirloom tomatoes volunteering all over my garden from last years compost. I plan to leave a few to sprawl because I have found in years past regardless of hybrids coming back (not true varieties, just smaller) or heirlooms, compost volunteers make the BEST tomatoes. I've got volunteer squash coming up too, probably going to let a few of them go as well. Plants are cool little things!

[MichaelC]

applestar - I'm going to do beans from seed next year, I think. I've already got seeds. The reason I use starts is that I don't till my cover crop into the soil until a few weeks before I plant. My garden is not ready for planting until sometime in April. So direct sowing will mean a later start.

For plants like tomatoes, I find it much simpler to buy high quality starts instead going to the effort, space consumption, learning curve, and expense of investing in seed propagation gear. That last is not so important, I know one can make good use of improvised materials. Pennywise and pound foolish? Maybe, but that's my comfort level.

cousinjordo - I understand that's pretty common with composting depending on what one composts! This little guy has to have come from a Matt's Wild Cherry fruit that escaped my hands as I was harvesting. It's tricky holding on to every single one of those tiny things when I'm working six feet above the ground! If it comes to fruition, it'll be interesting to see what kind of fruits it has. It could have been pollinated by any number of its neighbors.

I'll post photos of the volunteer and Sweet Million soon. The Sweet Million has incredibly dark green foliage. I'm very disappointed by the untimely death of its predecessor, it would have been pretty darned big by now.

[Lindsaylew82]

But you can just start most of those seeds right in the garden and they'll be up within a week or 2! Most of them anyway! Squash, peas, beans, okra, corn, Cukes... They all go right on in the garden dirt! Just till a little earlier, or even better, just don't till! Add a layer of compost, and then just remulch!

[MichaelC]

I may try tilling earlier next year. The cover crop and tilling it in are a major part of my soil strategy. This soil was awful two summers ago when I began gardening. After growing a massive cover crop and tilling it in with a couple other small amendments, it was fantastic last year. An additional factor is when the spring rains occur. This year I had a very brief window in which to till in the cover crop.

Here are a few more photos. First, I took a few shots to show the whole garden area. I think I've firmly decided that that little pear tree (planted, like all of our fruit trees, by the previous owner) is going next year. It's in the way, it shades the vegetables in an area that already gets a less than optimal amount of sun, and none of us even likes pears.

Here's the Sweet Million:

And the volunteer - in this photo I think you can get a sense of how lousy the soil here is without being worked.

[MichaelC]

I've taken a couple more shots of my tomatoes as I'm growing some of the same varieties as Lindsay.

Stupice:

Green Zebra:

Check out the crazy leaf curl they're starting to exhibit. It seems to be a standard tomato characteristic in my garden. It worried me to no end last summer, but the plants thrived and produced prodigiously, so I've stopped questioning it!

[MichaelC]

But you can just start most of those seeds right in the garden and they'll be up within a week or 2! Most of them anyway! Squash, peas, beans, okra, corn, Cukes... They all go right on in the garden dirt! Just till a little earlier, or even better, just don't till! Add a layer of compost, and then just remulch!

I've thought a little more about this. The trellis area where I grow beans and peas is against a wall and thus a little bit sheltered. It never gets walked on but is adjacent to a path. I've built a trellis robust enough to be left in the ground and merely restrung.

Next year, I could mow the cover crop from that area and the path earlier than the rest, not till that portion but just cultivate the topsoil, and I could get pea and bean seeds going much earlier than the rest of the garden. I could maybe even strategize enough to get my cucumber trellis and area set that early too.

I don't know if I'll do it, but you've got me to seriously consider my options.

[Lindsaylew82]

Looking great!!!

[j3707]

Michael - what cover crops do you like to use?

[MichaelC]

Michael - what cover crops do you like to use?

It's a mix of fava beans, hairy vetch, rye, and crimson clover. But the clover never gets anywhere because the others grow taller much quicker. I think these two photos are from the same year - not this last winter but the year before:

It gets mowed down a few weeks before planting and tilled into the soil.

[Lindsaylew82]

That's intimidating to look at! All those dense "weeds"!

The second Stupice is ripening! It cracked pretty bad around the top. How's your Stupice coming along?

[j3707]

Lindsay, all that fertility and biomass...it's a thing of beauty!

[MichaelC]

How's your Stupice coming along?

It's only been a few days since the last photo. It's doing fine, getting its first trusses started like the other tomatoes. It's the slowest growing of this year's tomatoes.

OMG Lindsay, it is a lot of hard work chopping down that mass and working it in to the soil. But it's been of tremendous benefit to my soil.

j3707 -

This is the first year I've mulched. It sounds like you are experienced with cover crops. What am I supposed to do with the mulch (fir bark) when I go to seed my cover crop?

[Lindsaylew82]

Lindsay, all that fertility and biomass...it's a thing of beauty!

Oh I fully agree! My knowledge agrees, but my eyes see all that and I get a little nervous sweat!

It's the slowest growing of this year's tomatoes.

It's definitely the fastest grower here, and it's ripening within 2 weeks of fruit set.

[applestar]

I love seeing how you are working with cover crops. I REALLY wanted to, but have found it takes some creative thinking to work cover crops into my own gardening scheme when Not using power tools and tilling. So I've done a lot of armchair cover cropping, some sweat and toil (and some genteel swearing), more noodling. I do more composting, mulching and trampling (in paths), and longer term using winter freeze as part of the decomposition process.

j3707 -

This is the first year I've mulched. It sounds like you are experienced with cover crops. What am I supposed to do with the mulch (fir bark) when I go to seed my cover crop?

Not j, but I think this will depend on availability of the fir bark mulch and your willingness to get completely new supply of mulch.
Also, what you are using as cover crop and what you will be planting in the same bed next season.

(1) rake off all the mulch and pile somewhere, seed bed with cover crop. AFTER tilling In the cover crop (and planting), cover with same now composted fir bark mulch or get a new supply of mulch. Note - Some crops are better sown or planted by pushing aside the mulch.
(2) till in the seasoned mulch -- think of this as very lightweight version of hugelkultur but there will be some nitrogen tie-up so maybe add a layer of compost or soak with AACT (actively aerated compost tea) first -- then seed with cover crop, etc. Get new supply of mulch next season.

(3) ...I just now had this idea so I am not entirely sure if this is a viable option but -- inoculate the fir mulched bed with compatible mushroom spawn ...a species that would grow in composted mulch and garden litter --- a completely different sort of "cover crop" -- cover crop and till in after spawn run and mushroom production is over.

[j3707]

I rate myself as a beginner, but like applestar said, I would rake the mulch out of the way and I'd want to eventually get that mulch composted and mixed into the soil (assuming it is just straight untreated/uncolored bark). A couple more thoughts to build on what applestar said:

(4) You could compost the mulch separately while the cover crop grows, then knock down the cover crop and cover over it with the old bark, then cover over that with fresh bark as needed. A sort of no-till lasagna method.

(5) If you would rather till, consider tilling in the old bark and cover crops at the same time. Mixing the green/brown into freshly aerated soil may help further compost the bark. Then cover with fresh mulch.

I wish I could do more cover cropping. My current goal is to have a 4 season garden, so I will need to integrate cover cropping into that model as I can...I wish there was a 5th season just for cover crops!

[MichaelC]

OK, it's time for some updated photos. First, the tomatoes. These are all about three feet tall except for Sweet Million. All are flowering but flowers not visible in all photos.

Matt's Wild Cherry. First to set fruit! Same as last year's, not a very thick stalk but it wants to go everywhere.

Orange Strawberry. This guy has grown skewed to one side and will be difficult to keep staked as the season goes by.

Green Zebra. So far a very hardy grower!

Sweet Million. The replacement plant is catching up. You can see the intense forest green of its foliage!

Yellow Pear. Looks just like last year's.

Stupice. By far the slowest grower this year, but looking good. The twin trusses coming from the same node are a good sign, I think.

[MichaelC]

And for the rest.

First up, the volunteer MWC tomato, which is looking great! As you can see in the photo of the mature plant in the above post, MWC is a serious sprawler, and the fruit weigh nothing. So I think I'm going to just let it do its thing - no stake, no pruning, just see what happens.

Cucumbers are looking good. Flowers have just started and I'm expecting a flush in the near future.

We're going to be eating beans soon! I'm still waiting to see whether perhaps these are really bush beans that were mislabelled. They're only about a foot high. I've never grown bush beans so all I know is this is a lot different from last years Blue Lake pole beans!

Container carrots going to be harvested in a week or two. I took one shot of Purple Jalapeño, which has set a beautiful ringlet of flowers. But the photo I took was lousy and now it's too dark to retry. Overall the peppers look like a bust again this year. I'm not really too keen to show them off.

[MichaelC]

Stupice has put out two trusses from the same node. Not all the blossoms have opened yet, but I counted ten blossoms on one and at least ten on the other. You'll likely have to view full size.

[MichaelC]

Today I have a bad update. Temperatures rose suddenly by 30 degrees today, and despite plenty of water, I have some major wilt damage. It looks like some of this tissue won't be coming back. Here are a few photos:

What can I do about this for tomorrow?

For Lindsay, a couple shots of Stupice, which did not suffer terribly today. That is some insane leaf roll, but it seems happy enough!

[Lindsaylew82]

That is really strange!

Here is mine: Took it today for your comparison! It's 5' tall, and loaded!



I'm wondering if you might have too much nitrogen going on? I'm curious what others think!

Here is my black Krim, really struggling this year, although it had a very good year last year!