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Re: 2014 - this year's Spiral Garden Project

Hm... Just remembered that research for the African Keyhole Garden project has shown the central compost basket to supply nutrients (and water) for approximately 6 foot radius. So if the corn would just hurry up and grow some more roots, there might be enough. Earthworms and night crawlers are making holes all over the surface of the entire Spiral Garden, too, fertilizing with worm castings 24/7. :mrgreen:

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applestar wrote:BTW can you see them? I threw out the remaining ungerminated squash and melon seeds in the centeral compost... well, they sprouted. :roll:
...well, I looked again today, and -honestly- it looks like they ALL sprouted :shock:
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I can't help it. Here's today's picture of the SG winter squash. It looks like 2nd from the left is different from 2nd from the right. 8)
Johnathan White Cushaw — Japanese Pie or <br />Seminole — Thai Kang Kob — Japanese Pie or Seminole — Thai Kang Kob
Johnathan White Cushaw — Japanese Pie or
Seminole — Thai Kang Kob — Japanese Pie or Seminole — Thai Kang Kob
Oh, look! Seascape strawberries are starting to set fruits :()

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In the Patio Side Kitchen Garden, NOW the cucumber seedlings under the glass A-frame seems to be showing a slight advantage.... 8)
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This is all looking so nice. It also reminds me that I probably need to worry about SVBs too, now that I have squash out in the yard. Bird netting probably won't be sufficient. ;p

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Thanks Cola :D Do you get SVB's? I thought I'd heard they are unheard of in Northern California, so maybe not in Oregon either?

I'm packing them in. My strategy is to plant them while I can, then collapse/relax and wait for the production to kick in 8)

Today, I sowed pre-germinated Tiger Eye beans in the back 11-1:00 outer spiral in front of the snap peas. I soaked them overnight 5/17-18 and rinse/drained them 4 times yesterday... And practically all of them had germinated today. These are what's left in the sprouter
Christmas Lima, Old Mother Stallard, and Tiger Eye dry shelled pole beans
Christmas Lima, Old Mother Stallard, and Tiger Eye dry shelled pole beans
You can see one Tiger Eye germinated since this afternoon and a Christmas Lima is starting to germinate.

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That would be a huge relief if we don't. Aphids, PM, slugs, and birds are irritating enough.

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Planted the melons in the Spiral Garden today. I wasn't sure if it's getting warm enough for them (I haven't even planted out the peppers yet) but they wre getting too big, and I prefer to only transplant them once -- to their final growing space.

So since I observed that the cucumbers under the makeshift glass A-frame did seem to benefit if only slightly, I took them from the cucumbers and gave them to the melons :twisted:
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The spiral is starting to fill in.
The spiral is starting to fill in.
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This has nothing to do with this year's Spiral Garden except that it's located where I grew these Tromboncino back then:

Subject: Tromboncino squash
applestar wrote:Here are big ones I'm leaving to mature with one of our cats as size reference :wink:
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I wish the Tromboncino seeds I tried to pre-germinate this year hadn't failed. They look cool 8)

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Spiral Garden full ground-level view
Spiral Garden full ground-level view
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C. moschata and mixta/angeosperma and Corn Circle
C. moschata and mixta/angeosperma and Corn Circle
Melons under glass A-frame
Melons under glass A-frame
Last night's gusty rainstorm made some of the corn lodge. So as soon as it dries out a bit, I'm going to hill the corn with soil from the path, then I'm going to mulch and sow bush beans at the base of the hilled soil.

It looks like the melons are already outgrowing the glass A-frame, but -- ridiculous as this sounds after days of summer-like weather pushing us into turning on the A/C -- forecast for overnight low/tomorrow pre-dawn is 50°F. So I'll leave them in place for now.

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Yes, yes, I know I posted an update just yesterday, but two days of rain and it seems like everything has doubled in size.

...and the Mother clump of Egyptian Walking Onions in the Spiral Garden are trying to "walk" :roll:
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Of course all this rain came AFTER I had thoroughly watered two days ago (it probably wouldn't have rained otherwise) so the clay subsoil ground is holding the water. I released 2 feeder minnows in the inner spiral path "pond" and 1 minor in the shallower outer spiral path "pond" in case the mosquitoes decide to be active despite the sudden drop in temperature (it was 50°F this morning).

I watched a robin start hunting worms at spiral path 3:00, dash with head cocked this way and that, pecking here and there, all the way along the path -- 4:00 -- 5:00 -- down to 6:00 and then around to 7:00 -- 8:00 -- and then coming upon the waters edge at 9:00, switch gears and have a thorough bath before taking off. :lol:

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The Seascape strawberries in the center of the spiral are starting to blush. They are huge and I've been looking forward to them ripening. BUT today, while I was stringing more support for the peas, a robin flew in and started packing at the barely blushed fruits :x

I yelled, but I had just wound the string around several poles and was holding the string taught while tying a good tight knot, so I couldn't let go. The robin saw me by looking away, turning one side of the head directly at me the way birds do, and... Instead of flying away, started pecking faster in a panicked kind of way. :roll: :evil: By the time I got there, one pale pink berry was completely ruined and another one was slashed. :(

So. I caged the strawberries with a currently unused suet feeder basket :twisted:
Reddest berries are in the central closer mesh cage
Reddest berries are in the central closer mesh cage

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Ugh! Stupid birds! Your garden looks awesome now btw..started following this thread last month, so happy I did, I really have enjoyed watching your progress! Keep it up Apple! :-()

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Do they look bigger? :D
PVC pipes &gt;&gt; see below
PVC pipes >> see below
...and remember the great idea I had to use insect netting tunnel for the SVB prone squash? Well....
Squash are getting squashed under the tunnel
Squash are getting squashed under the tunnel
I have to hurry up and put up the larger tunnel. Their leaves are already getting crimped and will become susceptible to fungal issues. But since it rained rather heavily, I couldn't dig the holes for the PVC pipes today, nor expect the pipes to hold up in the soggy clay.

I'm going to try first thing in the morning, Just need the right tool to make pilot holes in the ground, and push those pipes in. I'll probably need to weed and am planning to spray with milk solution before covering them up again.

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Yes! They do look bigger :lol: Nice work! Good luck with your netting too :-()

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Thanks! I got it done (...and I'm FEELING IT, too :| )
As seen from the Garden Overlook window after wearily hauling myself upstairs
As seen from the Garden Overlook window after wearily hauling myself upstairs
Like most of my "tasks" in the garden, this has turned into a big project. There was a "knee fence" in front of the espalier orchard row that had become a nuisance because it was impossible to weed along it. Grass roots were entangling in the bottom of the fence and poison ivy had managed to sneak it's way in, making it even harder to do anything around it.

Once I got out there, I decided that the knee fence just *had* to go. It was incredibly difficult to cut through years of sod build up, avoiding the poison ivy, then once sufficiently cleared, removing every bit of it. But once done, I was able to really get in there and weed under the fruit trees, too. I'll put on some compost and mulch them another day.

Last year, I bought a post hole digging bar on recommendation from someone here. I think they use it to plant with, but I found the bar way too heavy for that. But it has been a joy to use for making pilot holes in the ground for bamboo stakes to T-posts -- much quicker than pounding a rebar (which is too thin to be really effective) into the ground with a hand sledge. But with my hard packed clay subsoil, it requires just the right timing: a day or two after good soaking rain is perfect. The ground becomes soft enough to accept the bar, but not too soft that things will keel over.

Even so, the clay prohibits deep holes -- no deeper than 15-18" or so. I had to balance using extra force to get the bar to dig deeper vs. judging if using all my strength to pull the heavy bar out of the clutches of the sucking wet clay was worth the effort it took for the number of holes I had to make.

You might have noticed that the new tunnel is NOT covering the entire Haybale Row. I couldn't get an appropriately sized net fabric by yardage. I ended up with a pre-cut fleece cover 12ft x10ft. I thought about supplementing the length with another fleece cover or maybe the insect tunnel fabric that I'd cut in half last year for the broccoli/cauliflower beds. But it was too difficult to think about how to seal the overlap. I really didn't feel like sewing them together. Luckily, I mixed the varieties up in the row, so it worked out -- more or less. kind of a bummer that the only Red Kuri didn't make it inside the protective tunnel though.... :?
Updated Haybale Row map
Updated Haybale Row map
Due to shortage of fabric, I had to come up with a way to close the ends with minimum waste -- I settled on making holes with the ground staple and making a running stitch with a string with taping the end like shoestring to make it easier to thread through the holes.
Due to shortage of fabric, I had to come up with a way to close the ends with minimum waste -- I settled on making holes with the ground staple and making a running stitch with a string with taping the end like shoestring to make it easier to thread through the holes.
Last peek from the far end before pulling the cover tight and cinching closed
Last peek from the far end before pulling the cover tight and cinching closed
Stay out, SVBs!! (Bush Delicata and overwintered carrots end)
Stay out, SVBs!! (Bush Delicata and overwintered carrots end)
Sorry -- you're just going to have to fend for yourselves.... (Kakai, Uncle David's Dessert Pumpkin and Red Kuri end to the right with two volunteer sunflowers)
Sorry -- you're just going to have to fend for yourselves.... (Kakai, Uncle David's Dessert Pumpkin and Red Kuri end to the right with two volunteer sunflowers)
...It will be good to have some of the vulnerable (C. pepo and C. maxima) squash plants outside of the tunnel, actually, because they can be the "control" subjects in this experiment. :twisted:

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Snowpeas in morning shade and along the upper edge of the outer spiral path/swale (Outer Spirall 1:00-3:00):
These were sown late as pre-germinated seeds in April. Snowpeas are just starting to bloom
These were sown late as pre-germinated seeds in April. Snowpeas are just starting to bloom
Snowpeas in the corner of the Sunflower House tomato garden in full sun and on high ground (tends to dry out ealier)
These were sown dry in late March. About a dozen pods harvested, not seeing any new blossoms, and vines/foliage are fading and starting to dry up
These were sown dry in late March. About a dozen pods harvested, not seeing any new blossoms, and vines/foliage are fading and starting to dry up

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This morning, Kakai at the end of the Haybale Row and the Bush Delicata that didn't make it inside the tunnel were blooming :D
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When when I looked inside the tunnel, the Kakai at the far end was blooming, too. :-()
In side view of the squash protection tunnel
In side view of the squash protection tunnel
Do you see how much they've spread out already? Some of them were pushing on the sides. I weeded (mostly tomato volunteers), redirected the vines to grow towards the interior of the tunnel, and sprayed top and bottom of the foliage with 20% milk solution. :mrgreen:

Oh, I took the male flowers from inside the tunnel, Nice thing about them I noticed is that they were very clean -- no fruit flies or ants inside the blossoms. So I ate them in my salad for lunch. :>

I didn't take pictures, but the SVB resistant squash vines in the Spiral Garden are starting to run and tendril too. I've been redirecting them and making the tendrils that have grabbed onto corn leaves let go. Two of them have snaked their way between the corn and out to the spiral path. I'm going to try to keep them growing along the base of the corn stalks on the inner spiral for as long as I can.

The melons are blooming too -- still only males, but they are running and I have to put up the trellis support for them. I'm concerned that it gets too wet along the far inner spiral which is bordered by both the inner and outer spiral path/swale and they would become prone to fungal issues if left to crawl on the ground. ...though I might let them grow along the outer spiral where the onions and garlic are.

The watermelons are currently running along their SFHX mounded patch. I need to cut the grass beyond them so they can go in that direction if necessary.

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This week' s update photo. Harvesting snowpeas now, and have had to add more strings twice this week. The containers are overwintered hot peppers laid out to determine where to plant and to harden off.
Corn are standing 3-5 feet tall now. Waaay past &quot;Knee high by 4th of July&quot;....
Corn are standing 3-5 feet tall now. Waaay past "Knee high by 4th of July"....
Some of the garlic are starting to show their age in the lowest leaves, but they shouldn't be ready to harvest for a while still. They are sending up scapes and I've harvested some already.

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I didn't learn about scapes until my first attempt at growing garlic last year. I was ready for them this year - what a nice little treat! The rest of my family isn't quite sold yet, so more for me until they are. Almost all of my family gardens to various degrees, and yet none of them have heard of scapes. I guess the secret isn't out yet....

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I barely got a fish net trellis up for the cucumbers in the Kitchen Garden in time. Only one day and they are climbing up and poking out of the openings in the net already :shock:
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...I opened a scape and put the tiny flower buds in take out Peking duck noodle soup -- oh yum! :()

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It's getting harder to walk the spiral -- I have to push the corn leaves aside and bend my head a bit. The squash and melon vines are growing wild and I have to re-adjust their direction every day. Snowpeas need to be picked daily, and the shell peas are starting to make pods - hopefully! this semi-sun location with plenty of water from the outer spiral path/swale will keep them going through the heat.
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Spiral Garden
Japanese Pie Squash female flower bloomed, but there was no male open
Japanese Pie Squash female flower bloomed, but there was no male open
Planted seven hot peppers -- mostly overwintered plants, but one from this year' started seeds -- along the front outer spiral between the onions and garlic.

The squash are really liking the Haybale row:
Haybale Row and SFHX
Haybale Row and SFHX
But the plants on the end NOT in the tunnel are blooming earlier -- more light?
I think this is Kakai
I think this is Kakai
Another boxy looking Uncle David's (buttercup) female blossom
Another boxy looking Uncle David's (buttercup) female blossom

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TODAY WAS THE DAY! :-()

Very first female blossom opened INSIDE the tunnel. I took two males blossoms and hand pollinated, so hopefully it will set fruit.
First female blossom to open
First female blossom to open
There were some weirdness going on in there though... :|
Fused male blossom
Fused male blossom
The tunnel looks like this now,,,, :shock:
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Every time I open it up, I redirect vines to stay inside, pull some weeds, and cut off and remove any yellowed leaves as well as any dropped blossoms. I started to cut off leaves that are impossible to push back in without crumpling them. :roll:

...fortunately, I don't think I need to worry about pollinating the blossoms outside the tunnel...
A bumblebee, busy at work
A bumblebee, busy at work
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Found a female cucumber flower too, today. 8)
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Purple Milkweed started to bloom today.... :()
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Its a perennial in the Spiral Garden. I was so concerned that I might have accidentally uprooted or damaged it in all the Spiral Garden construction and planting activities, so it was such a relief to have it pop up in three places. This one is in the melon segment bordering the corn. You can see both foliages in the photo along with a volunteer Red Russian Kale.

...fully opened...
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...and the 2nd one...
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(Yes, I know... I'm incorrigible :roll:)
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This birdscare my kids made was guarding the Seascape strawberry patch in the middle of the Spiral Garden :twisted:

...effectively, I might add...

I was able to harvest this many dead ripe berries today. :()
It may not look like it from this perspective, <br />but the berries are about 1&quot; - 1.5&quot; big. Nice size.
It may not look like it from this perspective,
but the berries are about 1" - 1.5" big. Nice size.

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Does it look like the hand pollinating procedure was a success?
Does it look like the hand pollinating procedure was a success?
This is the Japanese Pie -- I don't know, maybe there was <br />another suitable male blossom open somewhere....
This is the Japanese Pie -- I don't know, maybe there was
another suitable male blossom open somewhere....
I managed to paper the grassy area for the watermelon and squash vines to crawl out to.
In this photo, I'm starting to lay out the packing paper. <br />I left all that sedge, clover and weedy grass growing in this area because <br />I knew I wanted to do this and needed as much mulching material <br />as I could get.
In this photo, I'm starting to lay out the packing paper.
I left all that sedge, clover and weedy grass growing in this area because
I knew I wanted to do this and needed as much mulching material
as I could get.
The stuff growing in this area between SFHX and HBR to the Bog Garden and fence to the right of the photo is intended to be used as mulching and compost greens material, so I let them grow long and cut them down as needed. I'm trying to grow some short growing native sedge in front of the bog where the squash is trying to grow, so I piled ONLY the cut sedge with seed heads and seedless grass in that area.
Finished. I don't really care if the grass has seed heads on them or not. <br />So I just piled them on.
Finished. I don't really care if the grass has seed heads on them or not.
So I just piled them on.
...a day later...
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Now, their growing area has essentially doubled. :-()

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First hand pollinated blossom is looking good:
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Hand pollinated a second female blossom in the tunnel.
2nd female blossom in the tunnel
2nd female blossom in the tunnel
male blossoms with petals and calyx removed
male blossoms with petals and calyx removed
Funny how once you start, even the blossoms outside of the tunnel seem to NEED to be hand pollinated.... :>
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. ...but actually, I found two females that had aborted their fruits, so I thought they might be needing some help. :wink:

(You are spared the photo of the female blossom in the spiral Garden that I also hand pollinated :hehe: )

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Red Kuri
Red Kuri
Uncle David's Dessert (buttercup type)
Uncle David's Dessert (buttercup type)
Japanese Pie
Japanese Pie

STARTING FROM THE TOPE LEFT OUTER SPIRAL --
  • Elderberries are in full bloom.
    Snap peas are in full production while the Tiger Eye and other shelling peas are starting to vine from below.
    Cucumbers are starting to bloom behind the Green Bearty snowpeas which I stopped harvesting to allow next years seed peas to mature
    Runner beans are starting to bloom
    Hot pink Monarda Coral Reef is starting to bloom (the bright red blossom outside the fence is Monarda Jacob Kline)
    Bulbing onions are starting to look iffy so maybe still not doing everything right to grow big'uns
    Beets and carrots are growing in between
    Egyptian Walking Onions are going nuts
    Garlic lowest leaves are starting to brown
    Hot peppers are still trying to establish
    Eggplant in a container is waiting for a garlic to finish up and vacate.
    Melon vines are running amok and pulling down onions right and left. They are starting to climb the nylon netting trellis I put up for them, and so are the Christmas Limas. I have to be careful they don't wrap on the Purple Milkweed and pull it down. (I already had to rescue it twice)
    The "experimental hybrid corn" which was a freebie are tasseling and silking at 1/2 the height of Bloody Butcher which are not showing any sign of tasseling yet. I started hand pollinating them today :D
    Squash vines try to climb the corn every day. One corn stalk got pulled down and snapped.
    One Japanese Pie planted at the base of the center compost and one volunteer round fruited squash in the center compost have set fruit after hand pollinating.
    Thai Kang Kob planted at the base of the compost haven't flowered yet, but they sometimes rear up 3-4 feet overnight and grasp at any part of the corn their 8-10" tendrils can get a-hold of.
    Seascape strawberries in the center of the spiral was successfully protected by the birdscare. Not seeing any more blossoms or fruits.... Lots of runners.
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I forgot to add the pictures of the Egyptian Walking Onions :lol:
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(My) eye-level view of the corn -- :()
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LOVE the corn! Looks great! Ours is still small..
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Your garden looks fantastic!! LOVE it! :-() :eek:

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Winter Squash Parade (all about softball size except Guatemalan Blue, which I hand pollinated today)

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So, on June 20 -- 2 weeks ago -- I posted that I essentially doubled the growing space for the watermelons....

Today --
At least 6 developing watermelons  -- 2 Sugar Baby, 2 Charleston <br />Gray, and 2 Yellow Moonbeam (I think?); and 2 Kakai, 3 Red Kuri, <br />1 or 2 Uncle David's Dessert squashes on the outside of the tunnel. <br />(If you zoom in, you can actually see the squashes in this picture....<br />...watermelons are of course hiding.)
At least 6 developing watermelons -- 2 Sugar Baby, 2 Charleston
Gray, and 2 Yellow Moonbeam (I think?); and 2 Kakai, 3 Red Kuri,
1 or 2 Uncle David's Dessert squashes on the outside of the tunnel.
(If you zoom in, you can actually see the squashes in this picture....
...watermelons are of course hiding.)
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Last year, potatoes and sweet potatoes did very poorly in these two areas where the watermelon and squash are flourishing. I left ALL the underdeveloped sweet potato tubers/roots and foliage in and on the ground over the winter to decompose. This is also where I built a pseudo hugelkultur with semi decomposed branches (rather than logs).

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This is pretty impressive!!!! Everything is looking SO great! You are soooo inventive!

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I just can't get over the size of the corn plants! :shock:
(The arch trellis and the melon support bamboo stakes are about 6 feet high....)
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...I'm also not used to the run-away cucumber leaves being so big. It finally occurred to me that I normally TRELLIS my cucumbers, but these vines are crawling along the ground and setting down roots. They are sucking up every bit of nutrients they can and are branching out new vines at every opportunity. I finally decided to put a stop to it and am turning back the vines and pruning off new shoots.
Etkezi Paprika is already surrounded.  If it shows <br />lack of growth or starts to decline, I'm pulling up <br />the cucumber vines back to the melon trellis <br />(where the pink balsam flowers are)  :x
Etkezi Paprika is already surrounded. If it shows
lack of growth or starts to decline, I'm pulling up
the cucumber vines back to the melon trellis
(where the pink balsam flowers are) :x

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Watermelon Parade

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Charleston Gray

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Image One of each :D

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...this one looks different... Early Moonbeam? Strawberry? Crimson Sweet?

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...Also... :()

I found a Tromboncino growing in the center compost pile from one of the discarded seeds. :-()
I wanted to be sure it set fruit so I hand pollinated it.
I wanted to be sure it set fruit so I hand pollinated it.
Since this is where the SVB resistant moschata and mixta/angiosperma are intentionally planted, the moschata Tromboncino may get bee-crossed with one of the other moschatas -- Thai Kang Kob is growing huge leaves but no blossoms so far. But I was expecting this one to be extra late maturing variety. I think there should be a Seminole here somewhere too. If I find the opportunity to make one or more intentional cross, I might try... But I'm finding it extremely difficult to trace the rampant vines back to the planting hole to ID which one is which, :roll:

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OK, the game just switched up to the next level -- I saw my first SVB moth today. It was on one of the sprawling cucumber foliage in the Spiral Garden.

My hands were full as is usually the case in situations like this, so quickly drop everything, take aim... AND CLAP MY HANDS TOGETHER SANDWICHING THE CUCUMBER LEAF !!!

Somehow I missed because I saw it flutter or fall side ways, so now, I'm pushing cucumber leaves aside left and right searching for it on the ground. But it was on the underside of one of the leaves I pushed aside. It must have already been stunned because it fell on it's back on the ground by my feet -- STOMP AND GRIND INTO THE GROUND. :twisted:

...what? You wanted pictures? -- no time for that! :bouncey:



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