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Are these Black Krim?

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:28 pm
by cfuller43
Was the packet wrong? Or did I do something wrong? :oops:

These are ripening at only a few inches around, and I know Black Krim are supposed to be larger. They are Ferry - Morris seeds that I got from Lowe's. Not sure if I got an inadvertent cross, or if I've done something to cause them to ripen at such a small size.

Unfortunately I don't have a fully ripened one to photograph because my daughters ate the only two I have harvested. I'll post a picture when I get a ripe one.

Until then, any ideas?

Thanks!

Re: Are these Black Krim?

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:54 pm
by rainbowgardener
I don't know from the green ones, but if you had ripe ones, Black Krim is very distinctive, very deep mahogany color:

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inside it has lots of seeds with dark gel:

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I think Black Krims are described as 8 oz or so tomatoes which is medium sized, but it isn't unusual for there to be size variation. Size is also affected by fertility of soil, amount of water, amount of sun, etc....

Re: Are these Black Krim?

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:24 pm
by cfuller43
Thanks for the reply.
I have grown Cherokee Purple, and have had a few ripe this year.

I know they should have a similar appearance. These just confuse me.

Maybe I'll know more when I can keep my girls from eating the under ripe ones.

Re: Are these Black Krim?

Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:05 pm
by cfuller43
Ok... So here's what they look like ripe.

Any thoughts? I'm certain this plant came from a seed in a Black Krim packet.

Pretty little tomatoes, but not what I expected. :shock:

Re: Are these Black Krim?

Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:45 pm
by rainbowgardener
don't know -- there's a zillion medium sized, round, red tomatoes. But definitely NOT black krim.

Re: Are these Black Krim?

Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:39 pm
by applestar
They don't look quite right to me either, but these might not be ripe yet.
Black Krim is black/brown tomato so the skin (epi=epidermis) will be yellow if you scrape all of the flesh off and hold it up to daylight or white light.

It actually does not look like Cherokee Purple because CP is "purple" with clear epi.

One of the two varieties is a bigger plant -- I'm thinking Cherokee Purple. All conditions being equal, Black Krim I believe should mature a little bit earlier, though that is so dependent on when the seeds were started and other conditions.

It looks a bit like you might be growing in containers? Indeterminate tomato fruit size is often reduced when grown in inadequately sized containers.

Re: Are these Black Krim?

Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:54 pm
by cfuller43
Actually, I grew them in the ground.

I've included a photo of the mystery tomato side by side with the CP that I grew just a few feet away. As well as a pic of the tomato sliced.

I see a few seed pockets have a dark tint as would be expected from BK.

The color is a bit off in the pic. The CP in reality is the rich purplish color. But the orange color of the other tomatoes is very close to how they appear in person.

They are tasty little tomatoes. Maybe I'll save some seeds and see what I get next year

Thanks for the replies.