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dyvonnetxgal
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Venturing out to try some new roses.......
I just purchased four new rose bushes for this upcoming growing season.....I decided I would try my hand out on some English/Old Garden roses. I do think I will be successful since I have had all of the great advice/tips given to me from this forum. The new roses were David Austin Roses and they are supposedly the New Generation roses. Since these are own root roses they should do very well in my garden correct. Now, I was wondering should these particular roses do better than my standards when given the same TLC? I can't wait to get them and I also purchased two climbing roses that can be grown in hanging baskets. I hope everyone has a Happy New Year.......Oh, also my current roses have not slowed down just like Kevin's roses...........oh, well. It did reach a high of 80* today. So I am not going to worry about them. They do have hips all over now.....which is cool!! Thanks a bunch. I will keep you up to date on the new arrivals....I get those on the 16th, Jan.
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grandpasrose
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Hello Dyvonne! Best of the new year to you!
It's always exciting to get new roses and plan what you are going to do with them.
For the climbers you are putting in hanging baskets: I have never heard of them being put in hanging baskets, although I don't know why not. Remember though that the pot needs to be large enough to allow the roots of the rose to grow, it will not flourish in a small 12" hanging container. Because it is in a pot, and not in the garden, it's nutrients will be depleted quickly, as roses are heavy feeders. Remember to continually be adding nutrients to the soil. If you keep them in pots over several years, you should completely change the soil every year or two. Also, be sure not to put them in black pots, as the color black will make the roots extremely hot in the sun. The pots should also have adequate drainage. Although roses like alot of water, rose roots rot if they sit in water.
For your other four new roses: David Austin roses actually fall into the "Modern Shrubs" category of roses. Modern shrubs have evolved from the crossing of old garden roses and modern tea and floribunda roses. So they have the best qualities of each. The wonderful fragrances and beautiful flower forms from the old garden rose, and the recurrent blooming, hardiness and color range from the modern hybrids.
You are correct that having them on their own root will make them a much hardier rose. You should give these roses the same TLC you would give your other roses. They probably will be stronger than your other roses (I am assuming we are talking about teas, etc) but only because they are meant to be a shrub, so grow differently. They don't however, need to be pruned as much as teas, etc. Just for shape, and dead wood.
You don't need to worry about your roses slowing down. They will do what nature needs them to do. Just leave them be. No fertilizer or soil enhancers right now. They will just rest and come back to life when they need to. It won't hurt them if they do not totally drop their leaves and everything.
Feel free to let me know which specific roses you bought, and I can probably provide you with a little more thorough information about them. I hope they do beautifully for you! Enjoy them!
Happy New Year - talk to you soon.
Val
It's always exciting to get new roses and plan what you are going to do with them.
For the climbers you are putting in hanging baskets: I have never heard of them being put in hanging baskets, although I don't know why not. Remember though that the pot needs to be large enough to allow the roots of the rose to grow, it will not flourish in a small 12" hanging container. Because it is in a pot, and not in the garden, it's nutrients will be depleted quickly, as roses are heavy feeders. Remember to continually be adding nutrients to the soil. If you keep them in pots over several years, you should completely change the soil every year or two. Also, be sure not to put them in black pots, as the color black will make the roots extremely hot in the sun. The pots should also have adequate drainage. Although roses like alot of water, rose roots rot if they sit in water.
For your other four new roses: David Austin roses actually fall into the "Modern Shrubs" category of roses. Modern shrubs have evolved from the crossing of old garden roses and modern tea and floribunda roses. So they have the best qualities of each. The wonderful fragrances and beautiful flower forms from the old garden rose, and the recurrent blooming, hardiness and color range from the modern hybrids.
You are correct that having them on their own root will make them a much hardier rose. You should give these roses the same TLC you would give your other roses. They probably will be stronger than your other roses (I am assuming we are talking about teas, etc) but only because they are meant to be a shrub, so grow differently. They don't however, need to be pruned as much as teas, etc. Just for shape, and dead wood.
You don't need to worry about your roses slowing down. They will do what nature needs them to do. Just leave them be. No fertilizer or soil enhancers right now. They will just rest and come back to life when they need to. It won't hurt them if they do not totally drop their leaves and everything.
Feel free to let me know which specific roses you bought, and I can probably provide you with a little more thorough information about them. I hope they do beautifully for you! Enjoy them!
Happy New Year - talk to you soon.
Val
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dyvonnetxgal
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Hello Val, I purchased the David Austin Jubilee Celebration roses and then roses from Nor East Miniatures called Red Cascade. The Red Cascade are the ones that I am putting in the hanging basket not the David Austin Roses. Sorry I should have specified that........didn't want you guys to be alarmed about spacing for the roots. I definitely have had enough experience with containers and sized last year with the tree roses. But the DA's are the ones that I am most excited to get. I am really trying to pace myself as far as how many roses I want in my garden. There are soooooo many to choose from it gets a little daunting and you start thinking. I want that and that, and that, and that.......but I am willing to accomplish that one rose or two at a time.
Talk to you later
Talk to you later
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grandpasrose
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That's the way to do it - one bit at a time. If you try to get too big too fast, that's when it becomes a big job, and people say they are too much work. Work up slowly, letting your older ones get established, while you look for the next addition.
There are literally thousands of roses out there to choose from, so study up which one will really do what you are wanting. Don't get caught up in the feeling of wanting to buy everything you see cause it's beautiful or you end up with some disappointments later down the line.
If you want to give me the names of your David Austins I can tell you more about their development etc. if you like.
Keep in touch and let us know how you're doing with them all!
Val
There are literally thousands of roses out there to choose from, so study up which one will really do what you are wanting. Don't get caught up in the feeling of wanting to buy everything you see cause it's beautiful or you end up with some disappointments later down the line.
If you want to give me the names of your David Austins I can tell you more about their development etc. if you like.
Keep in touch and let us know how you're doing with them all!
Val