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Rare Or Very Known But What IS It

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Can't get the photo to enlarge, so I don't now the scale. Need more information.

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Ill Try To Get better pictures this Morning

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In the meantime, how big is it? Is that main stem stiff and woody?

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That's an Abutilon. Whether or not it's a weed is up to you - but you can thank your lucky stars it isn't velvetleaf.

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Thanks for the ID, Lorax, but why are you maligning velvetleaf? I always keep some in my garden. It is a great trap crop for leafminers, that prefer those soft leaves to anything else.

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You've obviously never experienced it in a tropical setting. I use random "weedy" solanums as leafminer traps, because if I let velvetleaf take hold here I'm so screwed - it will even choke out my Amazon grass.

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looks more like chaya (Cnidoscolus aconitifolius)or the like, to me, than the abutilons I know.

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The leaves don't look divided enough - even when they're young sprouds, chaya have very deeply divided leaves. I'm also not seeing the hairs that would be typical of chaya.....

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that's funny! the chaya I have is totally hairless, but the abutilons are slightly fuzzy - certainly more hairy than the chaya...chalk it up to regional or perhaps varietal differences?

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Entirely possible. I have to handle the chaya here with gloves - it's got urticating hairs on it like a nettle. Abutilons, on the other hand, are smooth and pleasant to handle.

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I definitely got a hairless/non-stinging chaya, from a nursery in florida. it seriously looks just like that picture. thickish green stem and all.

and I wouldn't say the abutilons are hairy or anything, they're just fuzzier than the totally hairless chaya.



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