terry.edwards
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Are both of these heliopsis?

I have heliopsis (false sunflower, ox-eye) in a number of my gardens. The first 2 pictures show the leaves and stem of my heliopsis plants. The 3rd are 4th show the leaves and stem of what LOOKS like heliopsis, but the stem seems different (more square, somewhat softer, fine hairs). The new ones are coming up everywhere. Is this also heliopsis or a variety of weed that is similar in appearance?
Thanks! :D

These are the leaves of my heliopsis
[img]https://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj621/mag-019/Heleopsisleaves.jpg[/img]

The stem of my heliopsis
[img]https://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj621/mag-019/heleopsisstem.jpg[/img]

The leaves of the plant that MIGHT be heliopsis
[img]https://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj621/mag-019/Unknownleaves.jpg[/img]

The stem of the plant that MIGHT be heliopsis (note the hairs)
[img]https://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj621/mag-019/Unknownstem.jpg[/img]

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Square stems are usually something in the mint family. Does it have fragrance/ taste?
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No odour or flavour, but when I googled images of the mint family, I was surprised by the similarities! Thanks! :D

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Is it possible that the second plant is Turtlehead?

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It is bee balm!

Hi folks,
Thanks for your help, but the second plant that looked somewhat like heliopsis turned out to be bee balm (red monarda). The four-sided stems and fine hairs correspond to that plant quite well (as well as others, as I found). Thanks for your help!
Terry

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Lucky you, to have bee balm volunteer! It is in the mint family and as such it is usually distinctly aromatic if you bruise the leaves. The flowers are fragrant too, but not very intensely, you have to have your nose right up next to them. The leaves are used in tea blends. They are clearly in the mint family, but more spicy than minty.

I'm not absolutely convinced on the identification, but you will know for sure if they flower for you, because the bee balm flowers are very distinctive, like little explosions:



[img]https://www.unionagway.com/images/Plant%20Images/884234%20bee_balm-grandview_scarlet.jpg[/img]
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Bee Balm

Yes, they did flower and it is bee balm for sure. A beautiful flower, although the drought we are experiencing this year is making gardening a challenge! I didn't know that bee balm was a member of the mint family! Thanks for your help :D
Cheers,
Terry

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