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Re: 2016 -- starting seeds and cuttings for the new season

You've got a lot going on there! Where did you get the lemon seeds...will they be houseplants?
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The lemon seeds were saved from organic lemons from Trader Joes. I posted about it here.

Subject: Started lemon from seeds

I have a bunch of seed grown citruses because I can't seem to stop sowing some seeds every year. :lol:

I have a couple that are starting to grow in ways unlike they were before. A Florida gardener told me the growths I described in the following post are definitely signs of impending new flush, but she couldn't say if these will become flower buds. But she said lemons tend to be everbearing and will flower with each flush of growth, several times a year, once they begin to bloom.

Subject: Orange Tree/Lemon Tree
applestar wrote:I wonder how Northernfox's citruses are doing?

I have a seed grown tree that I think is a lemon and I believe it had one flower on it last winter. I kept it in an upststair BR window this year, thinking it might do better with more warmth (closer to upper 60's/low 70's). And I *think* it did try to bloom, but failed (see lower left photo in the collage).

Now it has these bumpy callus-like growths in the leaf nodes, and I'm wondering if this is normal, what they are, and possibly are they developing floral clusters and it will try to bloom again?

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There is a bit of ant/scale problem going on, but overall, it is healthy. Dropping one or two leaves every couple of days, though.... If I move it downstairs, it will be more like low 60's to upper 60's.
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I started them on Jan 24. Now that I'm sure this set up is working, I sowed the rest of the seeds in the other 2/3 of the container today. :-()

p.s. @tommyr -- What do you use to test for that? (Chemistry is not my strong suit....)
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I have seedlings making their debut!

It will be awhile before I can present more. The onion seeds are in the mix out there in the cool greenhouse. I'll say "cool" because it hasn't frosted for a couple of nights. Of course, it barely hits 50°, maybe. They will be along but some days having 90 minutes of sunshine and some days having none, it's taking them awhile.

This is the first time I have grown rosemary from seed. I haven't known that there were named rosemary varieties grown from seed! Oasis Rosemary.

They came out of the warm kitchen to enjoy a little filtered February sunlight in the South Window. This is a cool location, especially through the night, so they went back in the warmer kitchen and hopefully, more seedlings will join them in their berry box by tomorrow morning.

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Uppotted the Solstice broccoli (Limba seedlings aren't growing as fast...?) and a trial sample of spinach/onions/shallots in Garage V8 Nursery --
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I'm not particularly worried about growing onion seedlings because I ordered too many plants :>

and Hari eggplants in Indoor Greenhouse Winter Paradise shelves (They were overdue and starting to yellow :oops: ) --
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I had a new idea for recycled seed starters using K-cups and sandwich clamshell. I made two sets of them holding 7 doubled K-cups each.

I'm going to try starting some peppers and TPS (True Potato Seeds) in these.

In my experience so far, K-cups with the filter paper removed and bottom corners cut off for drainage in addition to the little hole poked by the machine are good size for starting tiny seeds and seedlings that have relatively small root system -- Have worked well for peppers, celery, sweet alyssum in the past.

Also larger seedlings that are sturdy and benefit from uppotting when nearly root bound like tomatoes, cabbage family, and Swiss chard. But the larger seedlings benefitted from double-decker stacking as they grew.

This time I've removed the bottom of the inner K-cup to allow for stacking as they grow and doubled them for stronger walls as well to make it easier to move the cups around in the beginning.
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The bottomless cup go inside the cup with drainage cut out of the bottom corners.

I will be posting progress and reviews for these, and will post a summary review later on in the recycled container thread if they work well. :wink:
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Started today --

4 seeds @ of the following peppers in each K-cup except for the Ladybug for which a friend gave me her last 2 seeds (I hope I don't mess this up). They are on the same heat mat next to the Venus Flytrap and coffee seeds which are being monitored closely, so they should be OK.

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Pepper, Black Brant
Pepper, BST Ladybug
Pepper, Bhut Jolokia Peach
Pepper, Bulgarian Carrot (hot)
Pepper, Chocoloco Sweet
Pepper, Golden Habanero (From 2014-15 Helpful Gardener giveaway)

I also started TPS Amouasa in the other clamshell of 7 K-cups.

AFTER I had sowed ALL of the peppers except for the Golden Habenero (but I'd already labeled the K-cup and dimpled the soil surface and was just about ready to sow them) DH came home and brought in today's mail, which included a letter with one more packet of pepper seeds :D They will have to go in the next group with more sweet peppers (I'm telling myself that will be ALL) Image

I also received my order from Kitazawa Seeds including two kinds of Chinese cabbage: Kyoto No. 3 and Osaka Shirona, Komatsuna, short salad burdock Salada Musume, Roselle, and Mirai 350BC corn and Japanese eggplant Kamo.

I'll need to get some of those started, and organize my stock of corn seeds so I can figure out which ones I'm going to grow besides Mirai and Ashworth and logistics for where to plant them and when and how to stagger them. Image
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Apple, which variety of komatsuna did you order from Kitazawa? I was thinking of trying the summerfest, as the variety I used to get - Kojisan -was the most heat resistant one I have tried, then it was suddenly unavailable! All I have tried since are not nearly as heat resistant.

I have gotten 4 of 5 of my early peppers sprouted; still waiting for the pea eggplants, but it's only been 17 days, and last year they started on the 18th day.
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I actually just bought the plain old "Komatsuna" -- partly because I want to grow an OP before moving onto any hybrid for what makes them better, and because I usually want to save seeds and grow from year to year.

So, they bolt quickly as soon as it gets warm? I guess I better get them started! :bouncey:
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I have only grown the Summerfest - influenced by the name ;).

Staying more weeks was important to me. The plants have done okay, comparable to bok choy. I have been quite happy with them.

They aren't kale, however. At some point in their season, more early than late, they will bolt. Senposai last much longer but, of course, it isn't the same thing.

I have onion sprouts in the unheated greenhouse :) . Six varieties - number 7 was brought indoors but it is seed for the 2014 season and, despite the warmer indoor temperature, appears to be failing ... :?

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I'm going to try to set up a low tunnel... Maybe doubled with a medium tunnel ...maybe an actual cold frame made with recycled pallets and skids.... Ha!

Anyway, hoping to get a jump on spring with some greens! :D

Onions -- I'm finding them sensitive to shallow seed starting trays. It seems to me that around when they unfold and stand up, they grow their roots correspondingly deeper/longer, and resent hitting the shallow bottom. I had to uppot my little clamshell onions/shallots in a hurry and only managed to find a 2.5" deep container, but I have had best results with deeper containers like oval quart size ice cream tubs, which I think are more like 4" deep.

In the ice cream tub, they were way more crowded than they should have been and developed densely matted roots, yet grew quite happily.
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The tunnel over the bed in the greenhouse has been mostly off this winter. Of course, the Asian greens and lettuce can take some cold. We have also had another warm(er) winter.

There is another month of harvest in there from the fall-sown plants but the benches will have to be moved in and over the top of those beds at that time.

I will put some bok choy seed in a cookie box, this morning. Mei Qing Choi. Those plants will drive me to set up the hoop house in about another month so that I can get them under that cover, into the garden beds, and out of their container.

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I'm jealous. I wish I was starting more stuff. All I have got are onions and leeks, and artichokes and two habaneros that haven't germinated yet. If I jump the gun I am going to regret it and get overgrown rushed out seedlings. I think next weekend I will start the brassicas. Two weeks sweet peppers. The tomatoes and eggplants grow very fast and I will not start until the end of March. Everything else is direct sow. Peas, potatoes, spinach, beets, lettuce, and carrots. Way too early of course, not until April when the threat of hard freezes in the teens is over.

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I think I'm already running out of space and I haven't even started the tomatoes yet. Going bonkers over peppers right now. Could NOT decide how to whittle down the list so I've started soaking all the ones I wanted to grow (as well as another eggplant I just HAD to grow) in full strength black tea. I realized I was so anxious to start that I forgot to do this with the last batch :?
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TPS have started to germinate/sprout. These seeds behave about the same as tomatoes and ground cherries in terms of temperature and how long to germination.
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...but they are tiny and grow slowly, so it's good to start them earlier.

...I'll just copy these here to link them into this year's seed starting... :()

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applestar wrote:Did I mention I also tried starting some of the seeds using Spoonzip/spoon method?

I noticed today that some of them had sprouted :D

https://www.helpfulgardener.com/forum/do ... &mode=view
...started on 1/28 so about 23-25 days for those. Less heat retention in the tiny zip bag may have contributed, although I did double bag.
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applestar wrote:Two of the seeds are sprouting/starting to stand up now :-()

https://www.helpfulgardener.com/forum/do ... &mode=view

...so they germinated in two weeks but didn't sprout until 4 weeks.
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I had old rhubarb seeds that I harvested a while back -- maybe 2012. I wasn't sure if they were still viable, but there was no sense in holding onto them and not trying, so I sowed them thickly in these K cups and then, in case they needed cold stratification in a dark place, I put them on a dark garage shelf, intending to bring them inside or put them under the bright lights and the somewhat more moderate temperatures in the V8 Nursery in March... And kind of forgot about them.

Today, I took a peek for no reason at all, and found out they had sprouted some days ago :shock:

They are very spindly but maybe salvageable at this point. I put them in the V8 Nursery and took the cover off. Once they get a little stronger, I might try uppotting them and burying them a little deeper.
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These are two out of four Maui Purple pepper plants that were the first to be overwhelmed by TRM (Tomato Russet Mites) and lost all the primary leaves. I put them in the cold Garage V8 Nursery to slow down the mites as well as give the plants a rest period.

Today, I noticed these new shoots that are starting to grow. They might make it yet. :-() It might be prudent to also put the other two that are already struggling out in the garage....

I didn't start these -- they were extras that pepperhead212 shared with me, so I will be VERY happy if I haven't killed them and they come back. Image
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I have had to bring both Walla Walla sweet onions and some of the Japanese bunching onions in from the greenhouse.

Too many cloudy days with no heat turned on but the real problem is the age of the seed - 2014.

I'm not sure of the wisdom of bothering with the bunching onion. I have 2 varieties, one is doing fine - Fukagawa. Got more Tokyo White seed and resowed. The original took another week in the kitchen warmth for any to emerge. The Walla Walla are now doing okay at, probably, 50% germination. Wasted some potting soil, time and space.

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Im not trying very hard to grow onions from seeds this year. It DOES seem easier to grow plants grown by a specialist in Texas.... It seems difficult to grow seeds to transplant size in my limited environments that I have available. ...that said, I have (a very few) Walla Walla and some shallot seeds started in this little container, along with spinach. So far, both of them as well as broccoli seedlings are doing best (compared to trying to grow somewhere in the house) in the cold garage V8 Nursery where it has been mid-30's to mid-50's:
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In the house on heat mats, I started Sweet Peppers and more Hot Peppers, etc.

2/23 soaked 24 hrs in full strength tea seeds

- sowed in doubled K-cup/clamshells

Pepper, Antohi Romanian
Pepper, Golden Treasure
Pepper, Peperone de Senise
Pepper, Quadrato di asti Giallo (2010)
Pepper, Red Monster Bell
Pepper, Ros de Mallorca (Counselor)
Pepper, Soroksari Paprika
Pepper, Tolli's Sweet <freshly harvested seeds>
Pepper, Yellow Giant

Eggplant Japanese, Kamo
Pepper, Brazillian Starfish
Pepper, Damalik Bieber (counselor)
Pepper, Jalamundo
Pepper, Jaloro
Pepper, Madame Jeanette
Pepper, Shishito

- Over/re-seeded Mexican Mint Marigold and German Chamomile

2/24

- sowed re-using failed pepper small clamshell

Herb, Roselle (Asian Sour Leaf)

- sowed in doubled K-cup/clamshells

Kale, Lacinato
Kale, Good King Henry
Asian Green, Tasoi (Gixx)
Asian Green, Komatsuna
Chinese Cabbage, Kyoto No. 3
Chinese Cabbage, Osaka Shirona

- an experimental container of large mixed/unlabeled cool/cold loving greens (old Diablo BS, white ribbed and red ribbed•green leaf chards, unID'd mustard•radish type, dill, cabbage, arugula, old Lacinato kale) started in perlite for eating as sprouted micro-greens OR growing (V8): Most have sprouted. Uppotted Arugula and possibly something else. Sowed Lettuce Flame and Sylvia in empty spots.
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I tell ya. I keep forgetting that these mustards are a hasty lot.

When I went to check on them for the night, some of the Komatsuna, Tatsoi, and Kyoto No.3 cabbage had already starting to germinate. :shock:

-- I loosened the saran wrap covering the top of the soil mix and then decided it would be better to NOT snap the clamshell lid closed, which pulls the edges of the saran wrap down tight. Otherwise, I'm going to find these germinated seedlings sprouting up against the wrap by morning, :roll:
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I found my peter pepper seeds today and have a small clear plastic clamshell container all ready and waiting for them. I even found my bucket of seed starting mix. Still don't have the seedling shelf all cleaned off but I do have space on another one.

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This is the fun part of gardening! Planting the itty bitty seeds and see them grow :-()

I have Black Brandt, Golden Habenero, and Sweet Chocoloco peppers knuckling after 8 days :D

I was going to start some of the dwarf and late maturing tomato varieties, but I got side tracked. Instead, started:

Feb 25

Stevia seeds 2015 from Green Room -- I'm going try to a separate germination test, too. I've never been successful growing stevia from harvested seeds, but I keep trying. :wink:

Petit Nigra fig cuttings from V8 -- I have them inside a produce bag wrapped in moist paper towel

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Wisteria seeds from Mom 2015 -- pre-soaked for 36 hrs in plain water, then rolled into a wrap of moist paper towel and saranwrap inside a freezer zip bag.
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Re: 2016 -- starting seeds and cuttings for the new season

Thought you might like to know, apple, my second and third pea eggplant seeds have sprouted. The first one I put in a pot, and it is about 1/2" tall after 6 days. I began these on 2-1, so they took a really long time - patience is a virtue! lol I will have to save some seeds from my eggplants this year - maybe new ones will sprout a little faster, though they are known for being slow.
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Snapdragon seed went in the soil mix, yesterday. I will be sowing pepper seed, today.

There are 2 packets of 2012 seed amongst the 9 varieties of peppers. That olde seed has me worried. My intention was to use 2 cookie boxes for the 9 varieties. Five in one box would be a maximum.

I'm changing my mind ... the two boxes have probably dripped dry from their soaking and are ready to come in the house. Those 2012 seeds, they should go in a clamshell sandwich box. I'm reasonably sure they will come up but - when? I don't want them to have to compete with youthful neighbors in the same container!

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I was beginning to worry it has been too cold. The green onions, kale and arugula came up but the peppers planted earlier was lagging. Finally started to see some sprouting yesterday.
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@pepperhead212 -- you are *really* tempting me with those pea eggplants! :lol:

@digit'S -- wise decision! Nothing worse then those laggards that won't come up with the rest. Sprouted seedlings generally need completely different environment vs. the ungerminated -- especially if you still want them to germinate and sprout.

@imafan26 -- onions, kale and arugula vs. peppers ? I'm so used to thinking of them needing completely different temperatures for germination -- heck, peppers need to be coddled and sweet-talked into germinating here. :roll: You make it sound so easy. :P

...We were out all day for a family gathering, so I only had time for a cursory, sweeping glance at most of the started seeds this morning. I only gave myself permission to take the time to thoroughly examine the Venus Flytrap box for taking photos. So I must have missed these Roselle that had started to knuckle and sprout -- this is what I found when I was looking them over for the evening/night time inspection :shock:
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...it really goes to show that it's best to check on the started seeds and seedlings at least twice each day -- in the morning on waking and before going to bed. A third check mid-way in between wouldn't hurt either.

With these, I needed to move them immediately to a different location with good strong light. The Roselle were upstairs on the thermostatically controlled heat mat for the Venus Flytrap because I really wanted them to succeed, and now that these are up, have been moved downstairs to thee upper shelf of the Winter Paradise with 24" T5 fixture.

I have a spreadsheet for keeping track of all these locations -- otherwise, I sometimes forget where I've put them. :>
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applestar wrote:@pepperhead212 -- you are *really* tempting me with those pea eggplants! :lol:
The second and third ones have now popped up in the second pot for the pea eggplants. I'll still look at the rest of the seeds for a bit, but as soon as these have taken hold, I'll toss them. Hopefully, I will have two plants - one extra if nothing happens to either of them. :)
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You are so cavalier about this. :lol: I still get stressed out about starting peppers and eggplants. :oops:

In the mean time, the biggest Solstice broccoli seedlings went outside today for a little sun. Uppotted the ice cream tub of Limba seedlings -- they are now in 2 tubs of 6 biggest seedlings each, a 4' pot of 5 medium, and a small clamshell of 8 or 9 tiny ones.
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I started part of the dwarf variety tomato seeds. I get obsessive about those, so I'll keep track of them in this separate thread: Subject: Applestar's 2016 Tomatoes

Here are some of the other seedlings. These are in the Winter Paradise indoor covered shelves which stays about 5-10°F warmer than the room temperature due to the heat mat on the bottom shelf and the light fixtures inside. I roll down but not zipper the front flap at night when it's very very cold out side. It's in front of a NW facing triple window and gets some direct westering and setting sun except near Winter Solstice when the sun sets south of west, which also helps to raise the temperature inside the cover.

TOP: Roselle ... Peppers with unfolded seed leaves ... Hari eggplants
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BOTTOM: Germination trial Kikuza x Tromboncino F1 C.moschata cross ... Peppers and Tomato seeds started on the heat mat ... TPS (True Potato Seeds) seedlings
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The second box of seedlings will join me in the South Window. The first group have already been moved to the unheated greenhouse. Bok choy has protection enough from morning frosts. These snapdragons will probably stay here until I turn on the heat out there in the greenhouse.

Not yet exposing even their seed leaves, the tiny things hardly look like they are plants. They should unfold and lift green leaves since we are supposed to have several sun breaks through the next few afternoons. This cooler nighttime location should be okay. I will likely be moving the pepper seedlings from the window back to kitchen warmth for a few nights. It would be best if they are all developing at the same stage but emerging comes first.

The first tomato seed went in the soil mix, yesterday. I'm not yet fully into this but my kitchen seed-starting space is filling. There is another shelf and even the opportunity to move somethings on top of a cabinet. I doubt it will come to that this year. I'm showing some restraint, scheduling looks like it is on track altho I'm getting some help from a little warmer than usual late winter and prospective spring, organizing itself outdoors.

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I have such little space for starting seeds and limited space for the seedlings as they sprout. I've posted about experimenting with Spoonzip (spoon in seed zip bag) and recycled K-cup for space-saving seed starters here and there. I've also borrowed your idea for dividing a clamshell with strips of plastic, digitS. :()
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Using tiny seed starters in inadequately lit but heated location to start fussy seeds does mean you have to monitor them closely and prick out and plant the little seedlings as they sprout or move them to bright locations that are more optimum for growing sturdy seedlings, but for me it's worth the extra work.

I pricked out and planted sprouted tomato seedlings in my new 2Kc (Double K-cups) today, and divided some peppers out of 2Kc cups in which they sprouted, and double-deckered some TPS's (True potato seedlings).

It turned out that I can fit 14 2Kc's in tripled clear plastic egg carton lid. Only problem is they have to be matching cartons. I hope I can find more among the saved egg cartons. 8) I think the larger clear container is the one from H-mart (Korean super market) I can't remember how many, but the 2Kc's also fit exactly. :-() The white one looks like a 1/2 dozen egg carton, but is actually a tray in which Mochi Icecream came in, and it wastes space due to the spacing between the cells, but I can make it work by putting two more on the ledge between the cells for total of 8. It's sturdy and can also be strengthened by stacking two trays. Image
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...those tomato seedlings that have been alotted premium space in a pint deli container are my Dwarf Arctic Rose x Utyonok F2's. I'm not sure if that's enough, but I'm trying to find rugose PL like DAR's. If I have to start more, I will have to wait until later when I can put them outside.... :?
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Re: 2016 -- starting seeds and cuttings for the new season

Here's a peep into the neck of the top half of a soda bottle humidity dome for the coffee seedlings :wink:
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Re: 2016 -- starting seeds and cuttings for the new season

Do we ever begin to wonder ..

. who is "running things" after seeds germinate and begin to grow?

Are we still "running things" or is this once again how life takes control of us and our activities?

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We are at their beck and call :roll:
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Trying yet another idea this year... A dozen peas in each designated for variety egg case. I plan to plant them out as soon as they sprout and fill the cell, and protect them as necessary with low tunnel etc. 5 dozen so far, but I have more varieties to start and plant. I'm thinking I will refill the egg cartons as soon as previous batch is all planted for staggered start of same varieties.
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Tomatoes really are not that fussy. They are all germinating and sprouting at once! :shock:

Transplanting the sprouted seedlings into 2Kc's (doubled K-cups) is tedious but the process is pretty much automatic now while listening to music or audio-book. :wink: Sand size DE is working out great. The roots slide right out after adding enough water to puddle (a squirt with a pipette ...or a sprayer... makes it easy and uneventful). I use a moistened bamboo skewer to "handle" the seedlings in Spoonzip (A plastic fork for the seedlings in seed starting mix).
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When the significant other starts saying things like EEEEYAYAYA!!!, it might be time to switch to winter sowing. Air-born cutlery can sometimes follow the shreik...
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Okay, AppleStar. You got some ‘splainin’ to do!

The seed from my tomato varieties are all coming up nicely, so far. The Sweet Chelsea seeds were I-don't-know-how-old but they aren't much behind. Nothing is older than 2013, other than that one. However, the seedlings occupying the South Window are only from the first and second sowings ;). The third sowing is in the kitchen.

I learned an important lesson a couple years ago about paying some attention to seed dates, especially for my own, inexpertly saved seed. Also, do not save empty packets! That's misleading Image!

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digitS' wrote:Okay, AppleStar. You got some ‘splainin’ to do!
:?: ...what do you want me to 'splain, digitS? :|

If you are talking about my space saving methods/process, I'll mention some stuff below the photo collage. :D

First I wanted to show that there was a Lady Patrol inspecting the tomato and pepper seedling 2Kc's (Doubled K-cups) :()
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I "pricked out" these seedlings from the Spoonzip and planted them in this 1/2 gallon rice milk carton using the plastic divider (Cut up clear container lid) method. These are ones I wanted extras of -- they came up together, 4 to 8 per spoon, and they all needed to come out of the Spoonzip. It seemed easier to plant them in community container rather than individually.

If you've read my seedstarting ramblings from previous years, I discovered these rice milk cartons are great because they fit in standard trays exactly, and can be used flat like this or standing on one narrow length for deeper rooted and older seedlings. I also cut up and tape two of them together for 1 gal containers sometimes.

As I mentioned before, even though I have to fiddle with the same seeds and seedlings several times when using this method, it's worth it to me because I have very limited space, and by using methods and systems that use bare minimum space needed by the seedlings at that particular stage in development, I can take advantage of the transitioning late winter to early spring seasons and weather to basically "Just-in-time" my seeds to transplants production.

While the Spoonzipped seeds are germinating and sprouting, cold weather early spring seedlings and other cold hardy/frost tolerant seedlings and plants can be grown in the Garage V8 Nursery and then moved out, just as the tomatoes and peppers begin needing to be potted up. Tomatoes can move out from inside the house to the garage as they get bigger and peppers and eggplants (And other plants including cold sensitive flowers) can take over the vacated space for early occupied by the tomatoes and other plants.

There is a mass migration from the house to the garage to the outside.

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One of the tomato varieties is an F2 of someone else's new cross breeding project. I saved seeds from this F1 plant because it was a large pink blunt heart shaped fruit with a dusting of antho on the shoulders. I think the antho expression in some of the seedlings is stronger in this generation. I have 2 or 3 other varieties with antho, but I'm not growing as many of them as I did last year.
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Left: Mammoth Melting Sugar and Green Arrow peas are starting to sprout. It felt like it took forever, but that must be because I've been looking at them every day... :> (It's only been 5 days)
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Right: Started an 18 egg carton of Marrowfat peas on 3/9. They are starting to germinate. :D
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tomc wrote:When the significant other starts saying things like EEEEYAYAYA!!!, it might be time to switch to winter sowing. Air-born cutlery can sometimes follow the shreik...
Ricky Ricardo might not have thrown knives but that was who Tom's SO's exclamation reminded me of.

You are doing just fine 'splainin' what you are up to, to the HG community, AppleStar :).

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Well, I planted corn last week at the community garden. They were last year's seeds so they were iffy. I planted 60 seeds and maybe 5 or 6 came up. It has also been a bit cold in the 60's since the cold front passed, so it was not an auspicous start. The weeds came up fine though. So I re weeded the garden and decided to plant some short crops. Kai choy cabbage and spinach. They might do better in the cooler weather. I guess I will also be getting some fresh corn seeds.
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