Interesting, Ill try it again with damp potting mix/zip loc bags. Right now they just got set outside, it's cold and damp out there for sure.. maybe when natural spring hits (if the seeds didn't rot, which the media was too dry if anything, than maybe they will get triggered by an artificial dormancy period. it was 70ish where they were, now they are on the porch in april, soon it will heat up fast perhaps they will come up after all. cabbages and cauliflowers germinated super fast and look great though, after I changed to a soil, instead of soil-less mix. strange how the seedlings are identical, good thing I put a label or I wouldn't be able to tell at all. peppers, eggplants, and basil are sharing a the heat mat now, wait n see.