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Propagation from cuttings, rosemary, lavender, and jasmine

I wanted this to appear under the starting from cuttings subject that Wendy started, but as this is not a reply to her bay leaf question...I hope it shows up where it should!!

I'm looking for an angel O:) because if it isn't a succulent which can start themselves or a easy houseplant like a Coleus, I'm at a loss.

I think I may have started a lavender from a cutting. I say may, because there is growth of new leaves, but there is also die off, and I am unsure if the new growth is really an indication that it has actually taken root. I simply put it in some soil. It's been a slow process, and what I have almost seems to be a little plant growing next to the very tip of the original cutting. Is this some kind of temporary thing or has this actually rooted?

I have read again and again that rosemary is hard to start from seed, and is best propagated by cuttings. Okay. I managed to come across a rather young rosemary (not yet in flower or woody) in a public area, and snipped off about 4" from a soft end. I swished it in a rooting hormone gel of unknown manufacture and put it in a wet starter block made by gro/dan delta. I did not buy these. A friend gave them to me. They are not the compressed peat blocks, but something else. If putting it in that instead of dirt or water was a mistake I can easily start over- I just put it in last night. I put the block in a round glass container-as wide at the top as the bottom, and my question is a matter of sun. The sun I get on my ledge hits from the top, not the sides, at least in the morning, so I'm not collecting a lot of heat this way. I just don't know if a cutting even wants this. My partner just loves rosemary-not simply as a culinary herb, but as a scent. I had another that I was trying in water, I don't think it was rooting, but in any case it was lost overboard :oops: At least I managed to save the little vase.

I also took a few cuttings of Jasminium azoricum from a friend who has a ton of the stuff. It nearly grows wild in SF. I took cuttings with lots of leaves, no flowers hogging up the energy. I have already tried this in dirt, in water, and even picking the mature seeds out and trying to start them. Nada. I put the wet block into a container that is a bit narrower at the top than the bottom because of everything I've read about propagating jasmine from cuttings the two main things seemed to be diffuse sun and humidity. I did this last night. This morning some leaves looked pretty...done, so I cut them off. Any advice? I'm totally working in the dark here.
My true hearts desire is a J. officianale, so if anyone knows of a good resource for those I'd love it to pass on to "someone" so that in April there is a better chance that one appears...
Still, I would really like this species to be successful. Like I said it nearly grows wild in SF, and there are a lot of fond memories from our courtship with this kind of jasmine. Having some of this and also rosemary would bring much romance into our little SRO :() in which we are living a lot longer than we thought we would.

Finally, I put another lavender cutting in one of these things. It was doing well for a while, but now it's a bit droopy. I have it in a tall clear glass rectangle, about 3-4"X 5-6", same width at the top as the bottom. I had the cutting just in water, where it was doing fine for over a week, but showing no roots, and then starting to get droopy, so I cut a new end to try this. Initially I put the block in a yogurt container, but my friend who gave me the blocks said that a glass container that is tall and narrow works better. Any advice on what I should do here?

If there are any surefire ways to get jasmine and rosemary-tricks of the trade, I'd be grateful for them and quite willing to start over again if need be. If there's anything about my lavender, I'd love to hear it.

Much gratefulness and well wishes,

Shawna Fetzer

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I'd google the steps to airlayer rosemary.

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It's nearly midnight here, and I'm not up to writing up a detailed post.
Here's one thread where I tried to describe how I would prepare rosemary cuttings and root them. Unfortunately, that particular discussion didn't seem to get anywhere for the OP.

I'm not sure if I said it but I've rooted rosemary cuttings in sandy soil mix using bottom heat and top half of cut off soda bottle as humidity cover. I think about 50-60% success rate.

I want to try rooting lavender, but haven't tried yet.

Jasmine being a vine, shouldn't be as difficult, I think?

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Here in SF we're back to summer after a good two weeks of winter. It's impossible to tell, usually we get this later in the year. It may last a week and come back in Oct or not. There is no point listening to the poor meteorologist-s/he has her fingers crossed behind her back.
I have 3 pants that I am hell bent on having that I'm trying from cuttings. Lavander, rosemary, jasmine. The Lavander and rosemary I've got in soil, in "starter blocks" and in water. Does direct sunlight help with rooting in water? The jasmine likes indirect light, and I learned the hard way that lavender does too (I got some to root in dirt only to kill it) but what about rosemary in any media I listed and cuttings in water? All were treated with a root tone gel.
Hot sun bad?
Thanks!

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Generally direct sun is bad for any cutting - it does not have any roots yet, so has no way to replace any water it loses from the leaves. Put them in the soda bottle humidity domes applestar mentioned, away from any direct sun, until they start growing new leaves. At that point the dome can be opened up and then they can be gradually hardened off to sun exposure.

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Thank you for the info, and I found the thread very informative. Sometimes when I run searches I don't get what I am looking for, so thank you for being patient while I figure out the way to extract what I'm looking for via the search application. I really appreciate the willingness to help from both of you.
Rosemary is one of those plants/shrubs that I really feel I need. It's a MUST HAVE even if I don't get the culinary variety at first.

The J. azoricum that grows out of control in SF is indeed a trellis crawling vine, but other jasmine species are more of a shrub. I want this vine one for sentimental reasons (plus they smell wonderful) but I also have my heart set on a fragrant Maid of Orleans variety of the Jasminium sambac. They are tropical, but apparently can be grown with some success as house plants. I will need to order it I think, but there can be a lot of variation in terms of fragrance. I came across some J. offincianale the other night and it barely had any fragrance at all! Usually this is a pretty fragrant species, so it demonstrates the variability. It seems that my cuttings were doing fine-growing new stuff-but now it seems to have stopped. I keep them in a container for humidity and in indirect light.

I also feel I need lavender. However, if I can't get anything to come from cuttings then I will try again in the spring. I've learned some things, so maybe I can get it to come up from seed next year.

Thanks again. Oooh-the CA poppies plus the E. Lemonii are coming up-along with a volunteer that I can't wait to see what it is. Not so much luck with the P. somniferum, and my iceland poppies are doing their darndest to drop dead but I simply won't permit it! The condyle leaves are yellowing, but the issue I have is that they yearn for light but loathe the heat. It's a good reason to invest in a high wattage
fluorescent bulb-that seems to be the only way, even though if I can keep them alive it will be cool again in SF pretty soon.

Thanks again

Shawna
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Re: It's a good reason to invest in a high wattage fluorescent bulb-that seems to be the only way,

You don't need anything special, any ordinary fluorescent tube or compact fluorescent bulb will be fine.



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