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I agree -- don't give up.
I'm tempted to say get some Dixie cups, poke holes in the bottom and transplant one jiffy strip worth in good quality potting soil (I like Dr. Earth or Pro-Mix -- look for them at real Garden Centers not big box stores) and see how they do. You probably used these because you were unsure about transplanting, but it really isn't that difficult.
I'm still sowing more pepper seeds now even though it's almost a month later than normal. I started them 2/16 but these were old seeds and many of them didn't sprout -- these were older seeds (2010 and 2011). Also I may have overcooked them because I was taking temp readings at top of soil level but when I put the thermometer on the top of the plant light where I had them last week while starting some other seeds, I realized it was like 95° there
There's always something. It rarely happens that everything goes right.
I'm tempted to say get some Dixie cups, poke holes in the bottom and transplant one jiffy strip worth in good quality potting soil (I like Dr. Earth or Pro-Mix -- look for them at real Garden Centers not big box stores) and see how they do. You probably used these because you were unsure about transplanting, but it really isn't that difficult.
I'm still sowing more pepper seeds now even though it's almost a month later than normal. I started them 2/16 but these were old seeds and many of them didn't sprout -- these were older seeds (2010 and 2011). Also I may have overcooked them because I was taking temp readings at top of soil level but when I put the thermometer on the top of the plant light where I had them last week while starting some other seeds, I realized it was like 95° there
There's always something. It rarely happens that everything goes right.
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Instead of Dr. Earth or Pro Mix can you use something like FoxFarm ocean forest or will that be to "hot" for new seedlings?
I thought you were always supposed to start new seedlings in mix with nothing added?
Sorry to barge in on the thread but my pepper plants (which are potted in the peat pots are not doing well either) actually all my plants are not growing as quickly as you would think considering my light setup.
I am thinking about starting some new peppers (both bell and hot) in foam cups (1. so I can use better soil if possible / 2. so I can bottom water)
Any help would be greatly appreciated...Thanks
I thought you were always supposed to start new seedlings in mix with nothing added?
Sorry to barge in on the thread but my pepper plants (which are potted in the peat pots are not doing well either) actually all my plants are not growing as quickly as you would think considering my light setup.
I am thinking about starting some new peppers (both bell and hot) in foam cups (1. so I can use better soil if possible / 2. so I can bottom water)
Any help would be greatly appreciated...Thanks
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Yeah, as we've been saying, the peat pots really don't work very well.
I never use sterile seed starting mix. The seeds don't need nutrients to germinate and get started. But it doesn't hurt them if it is there. And by the time they have true leaves, they will start failing without some kind of nutrient. So why bother having them in the sterile mix, just a different thing to buy.
I never use sterile seed starting mix. The seeds don't need nutrients to germinate and get started. But it doesn't hurt them if it is there. And by the time they have true leaves, they will start failing without some kind of nutrient. So why bother having them in the sterile mix, just a different thing to buy.
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For starting seeds I "dilute" potting mix with sand. This year, I'm also mixing in pumice gravel and coir. Some people use vermiculite, perlite, and peat moss.
Having said I bought pumice gravel and coir, it may sound a but hypocritical, but I don't like buying FoxFarm products (as good as they sound) because that's from West coast somewhere. I actually like Gardener's Gold potting soil (I think it's called -- same mfr as BumperCrop in Maine) but my local garden center isnt taking care of them (kept under tarp out in the yeard) as carefully as Dr. Earth's which are kept in the greenhouse. I'm also looking for Vermont Compost, but so far no local distributer. For amendments, I'm trying to stick with Espoma, actually for more local resource.
Personally, I don't like to use styrofoam because I prefer soil mixes and amendments with biologically active soil microbes, and I believe they can break down styrofoam.
Having said I bought pumice gravel and coir, it may sound a but hypocritical, but I don't like buying FoxFarm products (as good as they sound) because that's from West coast somewhere. I actually like Gardener's Gold potting soil (I think it's called -- same mfr as BumperCrop in Maine) but my local garden center isnt taking care of them (kept under tarp out in the yeard) as carefully as Dr. Earth's which are kept in the greenhouse. I'm also looking for Vermont Compost, but so far no local distributer. For amendments, I'm trying to stick with Espoma, actually for more local resource.
Personally, I don't like to use styrofoam because I prefer soil mixes and amendments with biologically active soil microbes, and I believe they can break down styrofoam.
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Thanks for always posting responses (as well as a few other folks..applestar) your help is certainly appreciated.
So, in your opinion....would you risk transplanting all my seedlings over to cups at this point? Thinking about little plastic cups (the kind for the bathroom you use for mouthwash)....
Just wanted to do something because it seems like they are just not doing as well as they should be...I know you should wait for true leaves and everything but at this point I will really be behind the eight ball if they all die!
Also, I just ordered a 9x19 heat mat off amazon so it should be here by Thursday....I plan on doing another set of peppers then and keeping them on the heat mat...especially at night. My basement temps go down to about 55 at night and I think that might be contributing to some of my issues....especially with the peppers!
Thanks for always posting responses (as well as a few other folks..applestar) your help is certainly appreciated.
So, in your opinion....would you risk transplanting all my seedlings over to cups at this point? Thinking about little plastic cups (the kind for the bathroom you use for mouthwash)....
Just wanted to do something because it seems like they are just not doing as well as they should be...I know you should wait for true leaves and everything but at this point I will really be behind the eight ball if they all die!
Also, I just ordered a 9x19 heat mat off amazon so it should be here by Thursday....I plan on doing another set of peppers then and keeping them on the heat mat...especially at night. My basement temps go down to about 55 at night and I think that might be contributing to some of my issues....especially with the peppers!
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I am planning on starting fresh pepper seeds this weekend. It isn't to late to start them. And there is no reason to throw the old ones away, might as well try to transplant them. I have started all my seed in baggies, transfered them to bathroom plastic dixi cups and then up potted to red solo cups. Never a problem. Remember holes in the bottoms of the cups and bottom water. I put the cups in a showbox sized rubbermaid container I paid $1 each for at Target.
Find your gardening Zin... It will come together
Find your gardening Zin... It will come together
applestar wrote:I agree -- don't give up.
I'm tempted to say get some Dixie cups, poke holes in the bottom and transplant one jiffy strip worth in good quality potting soil (I like Dr. Earth or Pro-Mix -- look for them at real Garden Centers not big box stores) and see how they do. You probably used these because you were unsure about transplanting, but it really isn't that difficult.
I'm still sowing more pepper seeds now even though it's almost a month later than normal. I started them 2/16 but these were old seeds and many of them didn't sprout -- these were older seeds (2010 and 2011). Also I may have overcooked them because I was taking temp readings at top of soil level but when I put the thermometer on the top of the plant light where I had them last week while starting some other seeds, I realized it was like 95° there
There's always something. It rarely happens that everything goes right.
I found a lot of different pro mix. Can you check out this link and tell me if yours is listed? https://www.gardenharvestsupply.com/Prod ... /-c158.htm