Wow, thanks, Jeff, for acknowledging the discussion. The man who wrote the book, that gave the insights, that prompted the discussion, has now joined the discussion! It's like the discussion has come full-circle and is hasn't even started yet ! Very cool .
I do hope, Jeff, that you will stop in from time to time (I can't even imagine how crazy your schedule is ) and lend some of your insights to whatever subjects we may be discussing at the moment.
HG, I came up with another promotional idea for the thread. Now, it may sound a little spammy, so if you don't pick it up, I won't object at all.
What if you or Roger where to send each member a one-time PM notifying them of the addition to this site and what it is all about and how to join in. I don't how hard or easy it would be to send a "mass submit" to all members.
Honestly, though, I think that it would be well-received. After all, when you join any type of organization, you always get newsletters telling of any changes or special events. Ours will be even better since we won't ask for a donation at the end .
What do you think?
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G5 I thought about that too a while ago. But as HG said advertising in our sigs is enough. For those truly interested they will come.
I thought about adding my sig to my sig on another forum, but first off I didn't think it would be taken well over here. Even though they need an education, trust me on this, but it could bring people over that really don't belong in a venture like this and might cause more problems than is solves. Sad to say but it's true.
Now where's my book?
I thought about adding my sig to my sig on another forum, but first off I didn't think it would be taken well over here. Even though they need an education, trust me on this, but it could bring people over that really don't belong in a venture like this and might cause more problems than is solves. Sad to say but it's true.
Now where's my book?
I like your position, HG. It's this member-oriented atmosphere and strict adherence to it that makes this site the best I've ever been on. I guess if you started with this, where would it end. You have a precedent here, and you are sticking to it; that's great.
Also, like you said, build it and they will come. I actually found this site and other forums I really like by Googling and stumbling across pertinent discussions.
Gix, I hear you. I've lurked in a few different forums and have seen some of the poor attitudes (although, I can't say all the members are like this) and would not want to bring any of those attitudes to this place, either. I agree that what we are doing will probably put the word out to all who want to hear.
Start it and they will follow.
Also, like you said, build it and they will come. I actually found this site and other forums I really like by Googling and stumbling across pertinent discussions.
Gix, I hear you. I've lurked in a few different forums and have seen some of the poor attitudes (although, I can't say all the members are like this) and would not want to bring any of those attitudes to this place, either. I agree that what we are doing will probably put the word out to all who want to hear.
Start it and they will follow.
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I believe we have been discussing it all along, throughout the forum.
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I think that's right. We needn't stand on decorum (for that matter when have we ever? ) If you get the book, and want to talk it up, you may need to hold some hands to get to your point, but we are pretty smart folk and will catch up when we get them...
I'm sure Jeff will clarify anything we screw up too badly.
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I'm sure Jeff will clarify anything we screw up too badly.
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The concept popped up on a thread (maybe the ACT thread) and when I asked what book this was the first choice for a few folks... serendipity? I like tio think it was luck...
The next one will be a more democratically chosen one. If it was just on who I know best we'd be reading [url=https://www.amazon.com/Organic-Lawn-Care-Manual/dp/1580176496]The Organic Lawn Care Manual[/url]; as it was, I asked Paul to introduce me to Jeff to inquire about his participation!
Perhaps if we ask WM nicely, we can get a subforum entitled "What Next?" where we can make suggestions?
But let's do this one at a time shall we? I think we have a very good one here; I read the first edition a few years back.
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The next one will be a more democratically chosen one. If it was just on who I know best we'd be reading [url=https://www.amazon.com/Organic-Lawn-Care-Manual/dp/1580176496]The Organic Lawn Care Manual[/url]; as it was, I asked Paul to introduce me to Jeff to inquire about his participation!
Perhaps if we ask WM nicely, we can get a subforum entitled "What Next?" where we can make suggestions?
But let's do this one at a time shall we? I think we have a very good one here; I read the first edition a few years back.
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Definitely down with "Whats next" I can't get enough information. Been meaning to ask for something like this myself but I have been to busy reading books and exploring links to do so. But why not be into 4 or more books at a time. It's good for you. If only I could get my kids to think like this.
A book/informative link forum would be great I have been writing little reviews of books I have read that have changed my perception of things here and there. But no one seems to notice not that I care but I would like to know what you all see as pertinent reading as well.
Now back to the [url=https://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=2865701754864235132]Emilia Hazelip vid[/url].
But than again one thing at a time. I need to slow down.
A book/informative link forum would be great I have been writing little reviews of books I have read that have changed my perception of things here and there. But no one seems to notice not that I care but I would like to know what you all see as pertinent reading as well.
Now back to the [url=https://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=2865701754864235132]Emilia Hazelip vid[/url].
But than again one thing at a time. I need to slow down.
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I win!!
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So you'll be ready then, Gixx.
Just finished the first chapter; nothing I haven't been beating you all about the head and shoulders with for a while, right?
Who read Dr. Ingham's foreward? High praise indeed, Gardener Jeff...
And I very much liked Jeff's forward. Never forget that most of us hardcore organics people were once upon a time toxic avengers, pouring out death from above on our microbial allies. I have sprayed quantities of poisons in an afternoon that most of you will never spray in a lifetime. Jeff's and my friend Paul did this untill he poisoned himself so badly the doctor said stop or die. Two decades after Paul stopped he still has high levels of some toxins. Jeff and Wayne talk about how they spritzed and sprayed even while maintaining a facade of ecological sanity.
And yet here we all are years later, all of us off of the chemicals and asking you to join us. We are not preaching; we have been much worse about this than the majority of you have been. And it isn't for getting rich; most of us still have to work pretty darn hard (poor Jeff has to hold down several jobs; lawyer, author, radio star... ). So you have to ask yourselves "Why? What did these guys find out along the way? Why are they so committed to this idea?"
And if you are asking those questions, you should really be reading along with us. Looking over Jeff's book tonight is like looking over all the lessons that I had to learn along the way, and I so enjoy that we have had some of the same teachers. But here are all those same lessons in a most concise and easy to follow manner, so you don't have to take a decade learning them (like I did)
Talk about convenient... we spoil you guys...
Any day now RBG; I got no notice, it just showed up. Hang tough. We will leave no reader behind...
This is going to be a lot of fun...
HG
Just finished the first chapter; nothing I haven't been beating you all about the head and shoulders with for a while, right?
Who read Dr. Ingham's foreward? High praise indeed, Gardener Jeff...
And I very much liked Jeff's forward. Never forget that most of us hardcore organics people were once upon a time toxic avengers, pouring out death from above on our microbial allies. I have sprayed quantities of poisons in an afternoon that most of you will never spray in a lifetime. Jeff's and my friend Paul did this untill he poisoned himself so badly the doctor said stop or die. Two decades after Paul stopped he still has high levels of some toxins. Jeff and Wayne talk about how they spritzed and sprayed even while maintaining a facade of ecological sanity.
And yet here we all are years later, all of us off of the chemicals and asking you to join us. We are not preaching; we have been much worse about this than the majority of you have been. And it isn't for getting rich; most of us still have to work pretty darn hard (poor Jeff has to hold down several jobs; lawyer, author, radio star... ). So you have to ask yourselves "Why? What did these guys find out along the way? Why are they so committed to this idea?"
And if you are asking those questions, you should really be reading along with us. Looking over Jeff's book tonight is like looking over all the lessons that I had to learn along the way, and I so enjoy that we have had some of the same teachers. But here are all those same lessons in a most concise and easy to follow manner, so you don't have to take a decade learning them (like I did)
Talk about convenient... we spoil you guys...
Any day now RBG; I got no notice, it just showed up. Hang tough. We will leave no reader behind...
This is going to be a lot of fun...
HG
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I wanted to say that, if you have been paying attention to this channel than you know what the book is about. This is great thing to do though. I have never been to fond of chemical treatments but what I have used I feel ashamed of what I have done. Though this book is not all about the hatred of chemicals it about the love of the life that hidden under your feet. It may open your eyes or it may just emphasize your currant beliefs, whatever the case it will change your mind about how you garden. I can't wait for the exchange to begin, I'm pretty down with most of it just so much to learn to be able to accurately pass it along.
Bring it, let's change some minds together.
Dono
p.s. It's kinda sad (or is it) that I almost know more about soil biology than I do about plant propagation. Going to read now.
Bring it, let's change some minds together.
Dono
p.s. It's kinda sad (or is it) that I almost know more about soil biology than I do about plant propagation. Going to read now.
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