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Hi Folks,
Thanks for choosing this book as a book club forum topic! I am thrilled and I will be here "reading" along with you all! Teaming has had a great reception and I am particularly pleased about the revised titled for the 2nd edition. When I submitted the book to Timber, they were not sure if it was a good one (meaning the information and suggestions would work) or if the information in it would ever become mainstream...hence the subtitle "A Gardener's guide to the soil food web." I was the "A Gardener'.....the second edition is subbed "THE ORGANIC GARDENER's Guide to the soil food web" which is a reflection by the publisher that, indeed, the information was correct, the system works, and it is a book for the mainstream gardener and not just me!!!!!!! Vindicated!
Anyhow, I lecture around the country and hope to meet some of you in person. The idea that plants are in control of their destiny and not gardeners in control is a lot of fun to explain. Seeing the concept hit people is always rewarding.
The first two chapters can be a bit difficult for some. I keep the science as light as possible, but you really have to get through them before the fun begins, so don't despair....soil is the stage for the book's characters and knowing something about how it works is key to understanding their roles, so hang in there and you will be teaming with your own soil's microbes in no time.
We actually got our hands on a case of the books for the Northwest Flower and Garden Show and they look great. Love the new cover and title....hope you do too! They should have some copies at this weekend's Portland Yard and Garden Show.....I'll be there and hope to meet some of you there!
Teaming with microbes,
Jeff Lowenfels
Thanks for choosing this book as a book club forum topic! I am thrilled and I will be here "reading" along with you all! Teaming has had a great reception and I am particularly pleased about the revised titled for the 2nd edition. When I submitted the book to Timber, they were not sure if it was a good one (meaning the information and suggestions would work) or if the information in it would ever become mainstream...hence the subtitle "A Gardener's guide to the soil food web." I was the "A Gardener'.....the second edition is subbed "THE ORGANIC GARDENER's Guide to the soil food web" which is a reflection by the publisher that, indeed, the information was correct, the system works, and it is a book for the mainstream gardener and not just me!!!!!!! Vindicated!
Anyhow, I lecture around the country and hope to meet some of you in person. The idea that plants are in control of their destiny and not gardeners in control is a lot of fun to explain. Seeing the concept hit people is always rewarding.
The first two chapters can be a bit difficult for some. I keep the science as light as possible, but you really have to get through them before the fun begins, so don't despair....soil is the stage for the book's characters and knowing something about how it works is key to understanding their roles, so hang in there and you will be teaming with your own soil's microbes in no time.
We actually got our hands on a case of the books for the Northwest Flower and Garden Show and they look great. Love the new cover and title....hope you do too! They should have some copies at this weekend's Portland Yard and Garden Show.....I'll be there and hope to meet some of you there!
Teaming with microbes,
Jeff Lowenfels
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Jeff, we are honored and pleased beyond words to have you joining us for this discussion. While we are all still waiting for books (anything you can do about that? ) we have been biding the time with discussion elsewhere about a lot of the topics I expect to see in those first few chapters, so don't be surprised to find out these guys have a pretty good grasp of the basics already. But the actual reading will be even more exciting knowing we get to mull it all over with you afterwords.
All you luckies attending the Portland Show be sure to stop and see Jeff and tell him you saw it here first...
HG
All you luckies attending the Portland Show be sure to stop and see Jeff and tell him you saw it here first...
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Uh Oh! I just recived this from Amazon:
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I suppose we will have to postpone just a bit, anyone else getting this message?Unfortunately, the release date for the item(s) listed below has changed, and we need to provide you with a new delivery estimate based on the new release date:
Jeff Lowenfels, Wayne Lewis "Teaming with Microbes: The Organic Gardener's Guide to the Soil Food Web, Revised Edition"
Estimated arrival date: March 01 2010 - March 03 2010
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doh! I just got:
Unfortunately, the release date for the item(s) listed below has changed, and we need to provide you with a new delivery estimate based on the new release date:
Wayne Lewis, Jeff Lowenfels "Teaming with Microbes: The Organic Gardener's Guide to the Soil Food Web, Revised Edition"
Estimated arrival date: March 08 2010 - March 12 2010
We apologize for the inconvenience caused by this delay.
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Wow, thanks, Jeff, for acknowledging the discussion. The man who wrote the book, that gave the insights, that prompted the discussion, has now joined the discussion! It's like the discussion has come full-circle and is hasn't even started yet ! Very cool .
I do hope, Jeff, that you will stop in from time to time (I can't even imagine how crazy your schedule is ) and lend some of your insights to whatever subjects we may be discussing at the moment.
HG, I came up with another promotional idea for the thread. Now, it may sound a little spammy, so if you don't pick it up, I won't object at all.
What if you or Roger where to send each member a one-time PM notifying them of the addition to this site and what it is all about and how to join in. I don't how hard or easy it would be to send a "mass submit" to all members.
Honestly, though, I think that it would be well-received. After all, when you join any type of organization, you always get newsletters telling of any changes or special events. Ours will be even better since we won't ask for a donation at the end .
What do you think?
I do hope, Jeff, that you will stop in from time to time (I can't even imagine how crazy your schedule is ) and lend some of your insights to whatever subjects we may be discussing at the moment.
HG, I came up with another promotional idea for the thread. Now, it may sound a little spammy, so if you don't pick it up, I won't object at all.
What if you or Roger where to send each member a one-time PM notifying them of the addition to this site and what it is all about and how to join in. I don't how hard or easy it would be to send a "mass submit" to all members.
Honestly, though, I think that it would be well-received. After all, when you join any type of organization, you always get newsletters telling of any changes or special events. Ours will be even better since we won't ask for a donation at the end .
What do you think?
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G5 I thought about that too a while ago. But as HG said advertising in our sigs is enough. For those truly interested they will come.
I thought about adding my sig to my sig on another forum, but first off I didn't think it would be taken well over here. Even though they need an education, trust me on this, but it could bring people over that really don't belong in a venture like this and might cause more problems than is solves. Sad to say but it's true.
Now where's my book?
I thought about adding my sig to my sig on another forum, but first off I didn't think it would be taken well over here. Even though they need an education, trust me on this, but it could bring people over that really don't belong in a venture like this and might cause more problems than is solves. Sad to say but it's true.
Now where's my book?
I like your position, HG. It's this member-oriented atmosphere and strict adherence to it that makes this site the best I've ever been on. I guess if you started with this, where would it end. You have a precedent here, and you are sticking to it; that's great.
Also, like you said, build it and they will come. I actually found this site and other forums I really like by Googling and stumbling across pertinent discussions.
Gix, I hear you. I've lurked in a few different forums and have seen some of the poor attitudes (although, I can't say all the members are like this) and would not want to bring any of those attitudes to this place, either. I agree that what we are doing will probably put the word out to all who want to hear.
Start it and they will follow.
Also, like you said, build it and they will come. I actually found this site and other forums I really like by Googling and stumbling across pertinent discussions.
Gix, I hear you. I've lurked in a few different forums and have seen some of the poor attitudes (although, I can't say all the members are like this) and would not want to bring any of those attitudes to this place, either. I agree that what we are doing will probably put the word out to all who want to hear.
Start it and they will follow.
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I believe we have been discussing it all along, throughout the forum.
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I think that's right. We needn't stand on decorum (for that matter when have we ever? ) If you get the book, and want to talk it up, you may need to hold some hands to get to your point, but we are pretty smart folk and will catch up when we get them...
I'm sure Jeff will clarify anything we screw up too badly.
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I'm sure Jeff will clarify anything we screw up too badly.
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The concept popped up on a thread (maybe the ACT thread) and when I asked what book this was the first choice for a few folks... serendipity? I like tio think it was luck...
The next one will be a more democratically chosen one. If it was just on who I know best we'd be reading [url=https://www.amazon.com/Organic-Lawn-Care-Manual/dp/1580176496]The Organic Lawn Care Manual[/url]; as it was, I asked Paul to introduce me to Jeff to inquire about his participation!
Perhaps if we ask WM nicely, we can get a subforum entitled "What Next?" where we can make suggestions?
But let's do this one at a time shall we? I think we have a very good one here; I read the first edition a few years back.
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The next one will be a more democratically chosen one. If it was just on who I know best we'd be reading [url=https://www.amazon.com/Organic-Lawn-Care-Manual/dp/1580176496]The Organic Lawn Care Manual[/url]; as it was, I asked Paul to introduce me to Jeff to inquire about his participation!
Perhaps if we ask WM nicely, we can get a subforum entitled "What Next?" where we can make suggestions?
But let's do this one at a time shall we? I think we have a very good one here; I read the first edition a few years back.
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Definitely down with "Whats next" I can't get enough information. Been meaning to ask for something like this myself but I have been to busy reading books and exploring links to do so. But why not be into 4 or more books at a time. It's good for you. If only I could get my kids to think like this.
A book/informative link forum would be great I have been writing little reviews of books I have read that have changed my perception of things here and there. But no one seems to notice not that I care but I would like to know what you all see as pertinent reading as well.
Now back to the [url=https://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=2865701754864235132]Emilia Hazelip vid[/url].
But than again one thing at a time. I need to slow down.
A book/informative link forum would be great I have been writing little reviews of books I have read that have changed my perception of things here and there. But no one seems to notice not that I care but I would like to know what you all see as pertinent reading as well.
Now back to the [url=https://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=2865701754864235132]Emilia Hazelip vid[/url].
But than again one thing at a time. I need to slow down.
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