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Snowing at the ski resort here, James.

I'm at 2,000 feet. The resort is at 4,100 feet.

Still no hard frost! Most vines have died from age and cold weather. The tomato plants look like they have been hit with a blow torch. Late planting of green beans are green and the last planting of sweet corn is still ripening corn on the cob!

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It's 6am and -2 C/28.4F here in Calgary.

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My home sits right at 5000 ft elevation. There are tall mountains on 3 sides of me within from one mile to 7 miles. To the North is a big valley. We got our killing frost about September 11 this year. Then it moderated, but things like tomatoes, cucumbers, squash were gone with that frost. I usually get around 105 days frost free. So I have to plant crops that can make it in that much time.

Ya never know though, one year I got frozen out on July 5.
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We have had those 28°f frosts, about a week ago. Lots of rain and wind, since.

Canadian gardening in the prairie provinces must be tough.

Your season is shorter than mine, James. Early frost. (Is a July frost "early" or "late?") It froze one year in August. I felt cheated! It wasn't just frost but, as usual, cool weather continued so even plants that survived couldn't grow. Sometimes! It warms after a killing frost.

The old rule of thumb (Humboldt's law) is that each thousand feet of altitude equals 3.5 degrees (250 miles) of latitude. My gardens here could be placed above 6,000 feet in New Mexico. Actually, the forests around Durango sure look like the forests around here!

That law isn't much of a law ... there are other factors like weather patterns. For example, parts of New Mexico experience a monsoon season. Before the spring growing season can really get started here, sunshine and high pressure has to force the coastal "June Gloom" back over the Cascades!

It would be nice just to turn the dial and be in control of the climate. Maybe the best thing to do is to not foul things up too much locally - in each of our own corners of the world.

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Quote digitS': "Your season is shorter than mine, James. Early frost. (Is a July frost "early" or "late?") "

A frost here in July is just a freak event. It just doesn't happen ........ well almost never. When those summer thunder storms pull out it always cools off as it clears up, but usually we are frost free for about 105 days from late May till about September 6 ...... give or take.

As noted earlier, I have seen frost every month of the year here in the Valley. Not much you can do about the weather, "cept live with it.

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I'm curious -- is it the same kind of conditions that create hail that can cause those summer frosts way up there in the clouds?
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Sorry applestar I don't have the answer to your question.

Today: 44 degrees and sunny. I walked out and looked where I had planted garlic. None coming up yet. Nothin to do really out in the yard, so I came in and mixed some bread. It is rising as I write this.
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Can't beat the smell of bread baking in the oven. Now you've got me wanting to head to the kitchen and mix up a batch of dough and take advantage of my fresh basil in the yard and make a couple of basil infused loaves of bread.

Like I don't already have enough to do-----LOL

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Here are the afternoon highs and morning lows over the next few days at Alamosa, Colorado (population 8,700):

66°f/26°
69°/25°
69°/31°
67°/36°

Temperature swings of 40°!

You might notice that the temperatures are a little closer together on the 4th day. That's because some clouds and moisture move in with a 10% chance of snow.

By the way, Alamosa is at 37° North latitude. It's south of any point in New Jersey. At 7,500 feet, it is high.

Especially in arid locations, evaporative cooling from any surface moisture can be significant.

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Yummy-looking bread! :D
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Sunday Oct 23, 50 degrees F, mostly sunny with some high scattered clouds. Still see no garlic coming up.

Four years ago we had this on this date!

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57 degrees, partly cloudy. No breeze. I have tilled the plot, planted garlic and spinach, picked the apples, the wife mowed the lawn one last time. Sliced some of the apples and dried them. Nothin much to do in the yard now till it snows and we have to get out the snow shovel. Guess I'll sit here on my butt and play on the computer?
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This morning overcast, calm, 40 degrees F, we had a bit of rain overnight but not raining at the moment.
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I don't have a green house and I refuse to garden in the house, so until April no gardening here. So what does a gardener do from now till April?
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jal_ut wrote: So what does a gardener do from now till April?
Seed catalogs ;).

Some gardeners take real good care of their tools. I'm not one of them. I'm gonna bring Rogue the Rototiller out for one bed and one path, tomorrow. Then, I'll hose down Rogue and little Tilly and allow them to dry in the afternoon sun ... at least, I hope there is afternoon sun.

I've got fuel treatment for the winter for the first time ever. I was looking at a manual and even the machine manufacturers recommend its use. That's it! I do a lube job and air filter change in the spring and may change a spark plug. Hand tool last well enough ... I try not to be too hard on them ;).

I need to get a gardening book back to the library. This was the wrong time to check it out. As the weather begins to warm and my enthusiasm needs to heat up, actual plans for work can come together. Notice how the plants in the seed catalogs look so nice! I don't have to do a thing other than turn the pages and try to remember their names. It will all be so easy!!!

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jal_ut wrote:I don't have a green house and I refuse to garden in the house, so until April no gardening here. So what does a gardener do from now till April?
You could maybe plant some sort of cover crop for the winter? The annual rye that I plant grows a tremendous root ball that I turn in with a spading fork. If you till though, it would probably make the tilling much more difficult having to tear through that thick root system. And then, your garden is always so productive anyway, maybe it's just not really necessary for you! Of course, once you get it planted there's not much to do then anyway so you're back to square one.

I almost like my cover cropping as much as the vegetable growing. (well maybe not quite that much!) But, around here, it's always so pleasing to the eye to have an oasis of green to look at. I almost caused a little strife between my neighbor and his wife who looked over and saw my green beds. She then wanted him to plant some grass at their place and he said no way! Too much work, too much water. This year, I have beds of yellow clover, crimson clover, annual rye and winter rye.

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Ya, my cover crop here at 5000 ft elevation ..... is a blanket of snow.
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jal_ut wrote:I don't have a green house and I refuse to garden in the house, so until April no gardening here. So what does a gardener do from now till April?
Clean house, round up gardening supplies, make chore lists, watch movies, play solitaire, work a second job. Or, take more naps and just sit around eating cake and cookies (home made of course) and whine about how deep the snow is.

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The reservoir from where I get my irrigation water.
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Beautiful day here. 57 degrees F and clear blue skies. No snow yet. The bees came out and flew.
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My fall planted spinach has germinated. The fall planted garlic has not done anything yet. Today 39
degrees and mostly clear skies. No snow yet. I have got the apples picked. Wife mowed the lawn. The wind blew the leaves away. Guess I'll just sit here on my butt and play on the internet?
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Post more pictures! :-() ...please? :wink:
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These two pictures were taken from my yard looking out toward the East. Gives you an idea of the area I live in. I live in a small community, and the city limits line comes through my lot so part of my lot is in the city and part is in the county. You can see the beehives in the picture? Any way it is nice to have part of the lot in the county so I don't have to obey city ordinances about beekeeping in the city.
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OK applestar, here is a photo for you. This is the trap that caught the giant grizzly bear known as Old Ephraim. You can look up "Old Ephraim" on Wikipedia.

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My garden ready for winter:

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Just wanted to share a few pictures of my winterized vegetable garden.
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These two pictures were taken from my yard looking out toward the East. Gives you an idea of the area I live in. I live in a small community, and the city limits line comes through my lot so part of my lot is in the city and part is in the county. You can see the beehives in the picture? Any way it is nice to have part of the lot in the county so I don't have to obey city ordinances about beekeeping in the city.
I especially like the photo looking out toward the highway going up into the hills. I'll bet there's not a lot of traffic on that road?

Interesting about half city/half county! At my spot my side of the road is county, across the road is city. Not that it makes much difference. No ordinances are enforced here in Mayberry unless it's something that will make money for the government!

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bri80 wrote:Just wanted to share a few pictures of my winterized vegetable garden.
That's really a great little garden! This is my first year of growing crimson clover as a cover crop. (along with some others) I read that it is an annual. Just curious, do you turn it in just before it blooms or wait til it blooms? It also looks like you have it growing down under the kale/collards?

I also do some yellow clover which seems to be really popular around here. It is a biennial so it never blooms since I fork it in long before that.

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bri80 wrote:Just wanted to share a few pictures of my winterized vegetable garden.
That's really a great little garden! This is my first year of growing crimson clover as a cover crop. (along with some others) I read that it is an annual. Just curious, do you turn it in just before it blooms or wait til it blooms? It also looks like you have it growing down under the kale/collards?

I also do some yellow clover which seems to be really popular around here. It is a biennial so it never blooms since I fork it in long before that.
Thanks! Yeah best to turn it in before it blooms. If it blooms the stalks get woody and it takes longer to decompose. And good eye, I do plant it under all my winter crops. It it non-competitive until spring when the kale/collards are done. So then I take out the kale and the clover takes over and then gets turned in, leaving a really nice bed.

Edited: just noticed your username. do you train taijiquan? Been training for 10 years now myself.

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Bri80, you have several types of kale in that bed, right? Is that Portuguese kale?

I still have some kale plants but they were really harvested regularly, right through the season. There is likely to be a little in the fridge, as well.

A quick story about kale :). I grew up eating kale. I don't remember it in the garden but Mom was a person who frequented the health food stores. When I began to have gardens of my own, I finally grew kale.

I had a big garden at that time, especially for a young guy. It was 150' long and the garden gate was about 30' from my backdoor. I planted the kale at the far end of the garden.

It was a very snowy winter and we had about 5' of snow to deal with. There were those big kale plants, all that distance away! I set off through the deep snow one morning, determined to get some of that kale into the kitchen. My tracks all that distance and through 5' of snow showed for several months. It was such a hard slog I decided it was one of the most ridiculous things I had ever done!

Now these many years later, I once again have kale ;). Over the last 10 years, or so, I have learned to enjoy it again. Fortunately, the woman who is now my wife likes it, too :).

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digitS' wrote:Bri80, you have several types of kale in that bed, right? Is that Portuguese kale?
Champion collards, improved dwarf siberian, dwarf blue curled and red russian are the varieties.

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There you go!

Each of those 3 kales are a little/a lot different from each other.

Collards and Portuguese kale are similar genetically. I'm just so unfamiliar with collards, I don't know about taste.

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Edited: just noticed your username. do you train taijiquan? Been training for 10 years now myself.

No, I don't but it would probably do me a world of good. It's a long story, but suffice to say my cat's name is Taiji. Sometimes she lets me on the forum! But most of the time she's on my lap watching carefully when I post! She is black and white. :-()

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Now it is about over for me. We had a killing frost a couple days ago. I harvested all the green tomatoes and pulled the tomato plants and the basil plants.

I kept thinking that I was going to do more fall planting, but between having a lot of non-garden projects to do and terrible drought making it all kind of discouraging, that didn't happen. The fall planted broccoli is doing well and starting to make heads (and bigger than it ever got in the spring, when it bolted too soon, when the weather warmed up). The chard is still doing well. The garlic sprouts are doing well and the perennial herbs are still going. Otherwise, not much left in the garden. I am starting to work on putting the garden plots to bed - give them a layer of composted manure from the horse ranch, a layer of my finished garden compost and a good layer of fall leaves and just let them sit for a couple months. Planting cold weather crops will probably start in February, which isn't that long from now.
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