User avatar
jal_ut
Super Green Thumb
Posts: 7480
Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:20 am
Location: Northern Utah Zone 5

Re: Frost

"Could I possible get a second potato crop in the same year from volunteer plants?"

Doesn't seem likely, however It ain't going to hurt to watch them and see what they do. When you see bloom on potato plants, they are usually making tubers too. Have fun!
Gardening at 5000 feet elevation, zone 4/5 Northern Utah, Frost free from May 25 to September 8 +/-

Taiji
Greener Thumb
Posts: 885
Joined: Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:19 am
Location: Gardening in western U.P. of MI. 46+ N. lat. elev 1540. zone 3

Re: Frost

Yeah it won't hurt. The potatoes are coming up right in the middle of a bed of green onions I planted as a follow up crop, so it's an easy matter to pull the onions as I need them without disturbing the potatoes!

BTW, glad you're getting a nice apple harvest! Last year my tree was loaded, this year not a single apple. Just don't get it!

User avatar
jal_ut
Super Green Thumb
Posts: 7480
Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:20 am
Location: Northern Utah Zone 5

Re: Frost

Thank you all for the Birthday Greetings.
Here, Sunday morning and its raining. Won't be working in the yard today. Maybe go to Church?
I suppose this rain could turn to snow and then we will be looking for the snow shovel?
Well I got the garlic planted..... let 'er snow!
Gardening at 5000 feet elevation, zone 4/5 Northern Utah, Frost free from May 25 to September 8 +/-

User avatar
Gary350
Super Green Thumb
Posts: 4814
Joined: Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:59 pm
Location: TN. 50 years of gardening experience.

Re: Frost

Weather is nice here no rain in 82 degrees today and 65 last night.

User avatar
digitS'
Super Green Thumb
Posts: 3499
Joined: Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:10 pm
Location: ID/Wa! border

Re: Frost

Taiji wrote:... Some are actually getting up to about 15 inches high and real bushy.

Could I possible get a second potato crop in the same year from volunteer plants? That would be something. Maybe at least some small new potatoes! In this zone and at this elevation that would be unusual.
I tried this deliberately one year.

Purple potatoes are a common "miss" for my careful, spud digging. Really, I usually find them all since I dig out the entire bed to about 8" in the harvest. Don't find all the purples, however. They come back as the tiniest of plants and account for nothing by season's end.

Back to re-planting deliberately one year: Potato harvest starts in my garden in July with earliest variety. Yukon Gold is an early variety and I moved some tubers to another location and replanted. I'd talked briefly to an actual potato farmer about this and he said that he didn't think it would work. Advice from a Virginia gardener was that it would work. I don't live in Virginia ...

I didn't even see those plants emerge that year. It was a mild winter, which is becoming somewhat common here. Those potatoes showed up in the spring. They produced tubers but didn't do as well as that year's plants. I don't know why that was.

I'd hoped for 2 harvests in the same year from a quick maturing variety. It didn't work. The tubers must have had their own ideas on the process. Your 15" tall plants sound like you have a good chance in your garden. I think it's worth a try to deliberately try this in some environments and with some varieties. It would be helpful if several ag schools would take it on as a research project.

Steve
Make everything as simple as possible but not simpler. ~ Albert Einstein

User avatar
applestar
Mod
Posts: 27667
Joined: Thu May 01, 2008 11:21 pm
Location: Zone 6, NJ (3/M)4/E ~ 10/M

Re: Frost

I don't know if I can find it now, but there was an article by a Pennsylvania master gardener who wrote about fall-planting potatoes for next year's early new potato harvest to coincide with green pea harvest. I posted the link here a long time ago.

Vaguely remembered technique was to plant in a raised mound to avoid winter water logging and mulch really well 8-10" if I remember. It's ok for the tops to get frosted and die -- or maybe they were pruned down to be covered with the mulch. So even if they are not ready, you may be able to get them to survive the winter?
Learning never ends because we can share what we've learned. And in sharing our collective experiences, we gain deeper understanding of what we learned.

User avatar
Gary350
Super Green Thumb
Posts: 4814
Joined: Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:59 pm
Location: TN. 50 years of gardening experience.

Re: Frost

applestar wrote:I don't know if I can find it now, but there was an article by a Pennsylvania master gardener who wrote about fall-planting potatoes for next year's early new potato harvest to coincide with green pea harvest. I posted the link here a long time ago.

Vaguely remembered technique was to plant in a raised mound to avoid winter water logging and mulch really well 8-10" if I remember. It's ok for the tops to get frosted and die -- or maybe they were pruned down to be covered with the mulch. So even if they are not ready, you may be able to get them to survive the winter?

I have done that, plant potatoes on the high part of a slope then cover them with about 1" of soil. As the plants grow keep covering them up until I have them covered with 12" of soil. Then cover them with straw. If frost kills the surface plants they grow back. The 12" of soil protects the potatoes from freezing. If I plant in Sept I will have potatoes in Dec. We sometimes don't get a hard freeze until after Christmas. I leave potatoes all winter and dig them in spring. This is the best potato crop I can get in TN. I usually get 100s of nice potatoes but nothing larger than 2 1/2" diameter.

I planted potatoes Wednesday weather man said rain but no rain, it has not rained here in 2 1/2 months.

User avatar
digitS'
Super Green Thumb
Posts: 3499
Joined: Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:10 pm
Location: ID/Wa! border

Re: Frost

I don't have a problem with having potatoes with peas ... unless, it's the opposite of that Pennsylvania gardener.

Potatoes go into the soil just a few days into April, in a bed I've prepped the year before. After cultivation tasks are a little further along and the soil dries more from winter snow, the pea seed goes in.

Here are some varieties I grow - early potatoes, Potato Garden. There will be plenty available in early July when I have peas.

If anything, I'd like the peas to hurry up and produce about 2 weeks earlier. But, I can only push them so fast in cold, wet soil.

Steve
Make everything as simple as possible but not simpler. ~ Albert Einstein

User avatar
jal_ut
Super Green Thumb
Posts: 7480
Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:20 am
Location: Northern Utah Zone 5

Re: Frost

Overwintering potatoes at this locale is out of the question. The ground always freezes and with it any potato. Potatoes can be Spring planted early April. The same time you would plant pea seeds. Have fun!

About hilling potatoes, It is only necessary to pull a couple of inches of soil up around the vine. This simply to keep the expanding tubers from seeing the sun and turning green. Any more than that is a waste of the plants resources.
Gardening at 5000 feet elevation, zone 4/5 Northern Utah, Frost free from May 25 to September 8 +/-

Return to “Vegetable Gardening Forum”