Hi this is my first post and my first half garden
I started in late summer and grew tomatos
I have a cool crop growing and I figured since
I live in socal it doesnt get that cold in the winter
so my plants should survine I hope. right now
I have sunflowers lettuce peas snow peas onions
and sweet basil. I plan to grow a lot come spring
I was wondering why my peas have flowered and
started growing a few peas. but my snow peas are
even bigger and have no flowers?
Peas
[img]https://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/Kahakaigurly16/nov28-2.jpg[/img]
Snow Peas
[img]https://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/Kahakaigurly16/nov28-1.jpg[/img]
Sunflowers
[img]https://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/Kahakaigurly16/nov28.jpg[/img]
Hi Krops,
Welcome to the Helpful Gardener.
Some reasons that come to mind:
Different varieties of peas mature at different speeds.
More sun on one plant then the other.
Too much fertilizer will cause leafy growth at the expense of flowers and fruit with peas.
Do you know the named varieties of your peas? If it doesn't say on the packet the days to maturity, you can google them by name and find out how long to maturity.
Newt
Welcome to the Helpful Gardener.
I was wondering why my peas have flowered and started growing a few peas. but my snow peas are even bigger and have no flowers?
Some reasons that come to mind:
Different varieties of peas mature at different speeds.
More sun on one plant then the other.
Too much fertilizer will cause leafy growth at the expense of flowers and fruit with peas.
Do you know the named varieties of your peas? If it doesn't say on the packet the days to maturity, you can google them by name and find out how long to maturity.
Newt
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I agree with Newt. To much nitrogen in your fertilzer can lead to overgrowth of the plant and no flowers being produced. Try giving your peas a weekly does of liquid seaweed fertilzer dilted as per the instructions on the bottle.
Looking at your soil, it looks pretty healthy but could use some ammendments:
a) plant crimson and white clover along with rye and now it regularly leave the clipping on the soil
b) I've briefly looked at the flora of Southern Californa and I couldn't see a lot of fuana that I recognize but, if leaves have fallen off local trees, mulch them up a bit an place them on your soil. Place them around your peas as well to insulate from possible frosts.
c) You can purchase kelp meal and spread that around your yard as a soil ammendment. Also, if you live near the coast, seaweed is always good. Just be sure to add it with a brown like leaves or newspaper
d) Add some rock phospate to your soil. It will help to build a healthy soil for your plants by forming soil colloids that store nutrients for your plants. Also, as the name indicates: Rock Phosphate contains phosphate that will help harden your plants.
If you can't find leaves to lay down on your soil use newspaper but, don't use the colour articles; they contain dioxins which are toxic to plants. Newspaper (and leaves) will add to the structure of your soil and prevent any compost from smelling.
Anyway, with a little bit of work you can turn your yard into a fertile growing ground for your plants.
Looking at your soil, it looks pretty healthy but could use some ammendments:
a) plant crimson and white clover along with rye and now it regularly leave the clipping on the soil
b) I've briefly looked at the flora of Southern Californa and I couldn't see a lot of fuana that I recognize but, if leaves have fallen off local trees, mulch them up a bit an place them on your soil. Place them around your peas as well to insulate from possible frosts.
c) You can purchase kelp meal and spread that around your yard as a soil ammendment. Also, if you live near the coast, seaweed is always good. Just be sure to add it with a brown like leaves or newspaper
d) Add some rock phospate to your soil. It will help to build a healthy soil for your plants by forming soil colloids that store nutrients for your plants. Also, as the name indicates: Rock Phosphate contains phosphate that will help harden your plants.
If you can't find leaves to lay down on your soil use newspaper but, don't use the colour articles; they contain dioxins which are toxic to plants. Newspaper (and leaves) will add to the structure of your soil and prevent any compost from smelling.
Anyway, with a little bit of work you can turn your yard into a fertile growing ground for your plants.
Thats what I was thinking also that my
nitrogen was to high so I'm going to
and some rock phospate and some
green sand for potassium do you think
my plants will survive the next 2 months
before the last frost. oh and the snow peas
said they were melting sugar and they
take 73 days to harvest and the regular
peas take 58 days so thank you for your
help.
nitrogen was to high so I'm going to
and some rock phospate and some
green sand for potassium do you think
my plants will survive the next 2 months
before the last frost. oh and the snow peas
said they were melting sugar and they
take 73 days to harvest and the regular
peas take 58 days so thank you for your
help.
You are very welcome! Your peas should be able to stand a light frost. You will need to cover your basil and tomatoes at night if a frost is expected. I don't use plastic because if you forget to take the cover off, and the sun comes out, you can 'cook' your plants. I use sheets or lightweight blankets.
I see alot of bare dirt in your pictures. I would suggest you consider planting flowers in the garden to attract beneficial insects. Mother nature doesn't like blank spaces and will fill them with plants of her choice if you don't. You may not like her choices. Most of the flowers that attract beneficials have a flat landing pad like daisies and mums that look like daisies.
You can take cuttings of your basil, root them and grow them in pots in a sunny window for the winter. That's what I did.
Newt
I see alot of bare dirt in your pictures. I would suggest you consider planting flowers in the garden to attract beneficial insects. Mother nature doesn't like blank spaces and will fill them with plants of her choice if you don't. You may not like her choices. Most of the flowers that attract beneficials have a flat landing pad like daisies and mums that look like daisies.
You can take cuttings of your basil, root them and grow them in pots in a sunny window for the winter. That's what I did.
Newt
Wow, how lucky you are! You may be able to grow year round. You don't have your hardiness zone listed so I really can't say. Have you visited your extension service site? You might find some very helpful growing info based on where you live. Take a look here and poke around.
https://ucanr.org/ce.cfm
Newt
https://ucanr.org/ce.cfm
Newt
wow snow thats a bumer when is
the last frost there. the snow peas still
are showing no sign of fruit but
there getting big and fast
before
[img]https://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/Kahakaigurly16/nov28-1.jpg[/img]
after
[img]https://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/Kahakaigurly16/Dec2-1.jpg[/img]
the last frost there. the snow peas still
are showing no sign of fruit but
there getting big and fast
before
[img]https://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/Kahakaigurly16/nov28-1.jpg[/img]
after
[img]https://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/Kahakaigurly16/Dec2-1.jpg[/img]
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It must be a synthetic fertilizer with the description you give. I would suggest you scratch it into the soil and water it in. I don't recommend synthetic fertilizers as they are like steriods for your plants and can cause a flush of growth that can attract insect pests. Synthetics also leave behind residual salts and don't have micro-nutrients that organic fertilizers do. It's isn't 'bad', but not as good as organics.krops13 wrote:I don't think synthetic exactly but maybe?
I got it at home depot it has nitrogen
phos. and potass. I couldnt find any
rock phos nor anything for potass.
is this stuff bad? and y if so?
https://www.dirtdoctor.com/view_question.php?id=131
If you want rock phosphate you might consider looking at garden center aka nursery. Without a soil test I wouldn't suggest you start adding individual nutrients.
Not sure about that. Do you mean for seedlings in the house?can I use a 42 watt compact fluoresent
bulb as a grow light?
Newt
When I grow seedlings I grow them on a work bench in my laundry room. I have 2 - 4' fluoresent tubes in a shop light about 4" above the seed trays. I keep the shop light on chains and move it higher as the seedlings grow. I use a warm light and white light and rotate the seedlings 180* each day.
I'm not sure just how many seedlings you plan to grow, but using one 42W compact fluoresent isn't going to do much. It would probably be better to have about 200W. Even then you will probably only be able to light 4 to six plants.
Keep in mind that even though these are fluorescent, they will throw off heat that close to your plants. You should have some type of small fan moving the air above the plants. It will help your plants to be sturdier.
Maybe someone else with more knowledge then I have about growing under lights will be more helpful. If not you might find some helpful info here.
Newt
I'm not sure just how many seedlings you plan to grow, but using one 42W compact fluoresent isn't going to do much. It would probably be better to have about 200W. Even then you will probably only be able to light 4 to six plants.
Keep in mind that even though these are fluorescent, they will throw off heat that close to your plants. You should have some type of small fan moving the air above the plants. It will help your plants to be sturdier.
Maybe someone else with more knowledge then I have about growing under lights will be more helpful. If not you might find some helpful info here.
Newt