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Re: White Vegetables for "White Sauce Vegetable Garden"

It is hard to grow any eggplant here that does not get friction rubs or mites. the white eggplant often has brown scratches mostly from rubbing. I did grow Easter egg. It is an ornamental and the fruit is small but edible but usually does not rub on anything, so as long as the bug damage is minimized it will stay white. or creamy yellow.

White eggplants are less bitter and have creamy flesh. I do peel them first since they are a harder fruit than the green or purple eggplant.

What about the white tomatoes Apple, what varieties are you planting for your white garden?

You could also do parsnip or burdock (gobo). Gobo can get over 3 ft long. It is easy to grow but very difficult to harvest. The easiest way to plant it is to get a 55 gallon drum take off the top, and split it in half longitudinally. Tie or wire the barrel back together. make holes about 2 inches from the bottom of the barrel for drainage. fill the barrel with potting soil and plant the seeds on top. Alternatively, you can get 4 inch pvc pipe about 4 ft long and split it in half. Tie it together again and put about 1 foot in the ground and stake it. Fill the pipe and plant one seed on top. By the time the gobo is to be harvested it should be near the end of the pipe and the root will be straight.

Did anyone mention mushrooms yet?

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I have these white tomato variety seeds on my list as possibles for the White Sauce Garden. I have most of them in my "stash" but need the ones marked with *

Big White Pink Stripes*, Coyote, Champagne Cherry* (clara), Cream Sausage, Great White, Juicy Saladette#, Manyel, Melonball, Primrose Gage, Wapsipinicon Peach, NOT White Queen#, White Tomesol, White Wonder, WMD White sport. #ghostly white at pre-blush#

Mushrooms were mentioned but am not sure that I could grow them next year -- I'll have to think about that. The methods you mentioned for growing Gobo is really interesting. I might try to do that. 8) I'm definitely growing parsnips. :D

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Here are my proposed plans for the "White Sauce Garden".
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Garlic are growing well in VGC and Fun Gen Nappa cabbage are starting to bolt. Marrowfat, Mammoth Melting Sugar and Golden Sweet snowpeas are growing well and starting to bloom.
Whole bunch of seeds sown in the VGA raised bed have been sprouting as noted, and I'm starting to plant the white fruited tomatoes.

The area is still "under construction" however.... I have to build the frames for some new raised beds and finish constructing the barrier to block the neighbor's lawn service. The compost bin/pile will be taken down and used to fill the beds.
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I wish I could get my garlic to grow like that. Looks great.

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Thanks! -- these are Music and Elephant so they do grow into bigger plants anyway. (Ones to grow if you want to impress :wink: )

You ARE pretty far "north" there, but I think the trick with garlic is to get the right variet and plant at the right time for your region, and provide sufficient winter protections necessary. Which ones are you growing?

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I tried to grow elephant garlic once. The cloves actually got smaller. But that was before I knew about bulbs and day length.

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applestar wrote:
You ARE pretty far "north" there, but I think the trick with garlic is to get the right variet and plant at the right time for your region, and provide sufficient winter protections necessary. Which ones are you growing?
I have tried elephant twice and walla walla early garlic once. I have tried planting in the spring and in the fall. Last year, I just bought garlic from the grocery store and they did ok, nothing to exciting, I dug them up and replanted in the garden in a better spot to work around, last fall and I think they rotted. I may be planting them in the fall to late, mid October. If I plant in the spring they come up but don't offer much for a bulb. When I plant in the fall, I can't seem to get them to come up. They are so expensive to keep buying bulbs and nothing.

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I *think* I'm finished planting....
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Snow peas were harvested and finished. FunJen was harvested as greens and seeds and empty spots have been planted with reserve white tomato seedlings. I just have to plant white ribbed Swiss chard and reserve self blanching celery and that bed will be full even by MY standards :roll:

Garlic has been harvested as well and the beds have been planted with Fish peppers and a few variegated PURPLE foliage pepper seedlings, and some (not white) beet seeds for fall which have sprouted already.

I have been thinning/harvesting Lunar White carrots. First White Soul alpine strawberry is nearly ripe, and Cream Sausage tomato in hanging basket is in color break stage.

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We bought a eggplant seedling called "Albino" at a local market. I have no idea what to expect from it.

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Let us know how it performs 8)

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Revised map and update photos taken from the Enterprise Apple tree side of the area:
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Cream Sausage tomato growing in a hanging basket:
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I planted Falstaff Brussels sprouts seedlings in VGD today. The cauliflower never made heads but are still doing OK so I'm going to see if they will just hunker down for the summer and resume growing for fall crop. This makes the bed overcrowded, but that's not unusual in my PETC garden :>

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This is a variety I call "Juicy Saladette" because I don't know it's true name. I was going to plant at least one of these in the white Sauce Garden, but I started by planting two in the Spiral Garden. It turned out that the remaining seedlings died, leaving me without any to put in the White Sauce Garden. :roll:
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...technically not a white (Ivory or clear skinned yellow ) when mature, but a red fruit, but at color break, it had a startlingly pale color last time I grew them. This year, these are suffering from TRM (tomato russet mite) infestation and the lower truss fruits have become russeted.

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White sauce garden plan looks great. Obviously intensive gardening. Still no fruit on the albino eggplant, but have a nice one on the Japanese eggplant (the smallest and limpist eggplant plant in the garden).

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Not counting the Previously harvested garlic, first official mature "white" harvest from the White Sauce Garden are Cream Sausage tomato, Trucker's Favorite White sweet corn, and Golden Wax Improved bush beans :D
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...my Mikado White PL turned out to be not really white but ripens to mottled dark pink after undergoing bicolor like blush.

-- Photos show "representative" garlic, beans, etc. LOTS more were harvested :()

-- I need to work on celery growing technique and find a better place to plant them (I tried to rotate *away * from last year's GREAT celery spot and missed :? )

-- I have more comments and summary review to post but I can't right now. Stay "tuned" :wink:



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