SeaOfGreen wrote:It says to only apply once every 7-12 days
Pyrethrin (chrysanthemum extract), or nothing at all, there are some other methods to keep bugs away but I can't give any advice without knowing what kind of problems you're having. What exactly are you using it for? What are you having problems with? If you weren't having any problems before you started using it then just don't worry about it. Plenty of organic gardeners use no insecticides, even pyrethrin and they don't have bug problems. Remember that insecticides kill beneficial bugs as well, such as bees.SeaOfGreen wrote:What would you suggest I use?Dixana wrote:Because it's so toxic it never really washes away?
I certainly would NOT apply it any more often if that's what you're thinking!!!
There's a reason that stuff has been banned almost everywhere but here.....
The only thing I have seen on the plants are little yellowish things that look like fleas but there is plenty of holes in my leaves. Also I'm most certainly not a organic gardener. Is the sevin dust not safe to use and have I poisened my plants because I have used alot on them?Decado wrote:SeaOfGreen wrote:Pyrethrin (chrysanthemum extract), or nothing at all, there are some other methods to keep bugs away but I can't give any advice without knowing what kind of problems you're having. What exactly are you using it for? What are you having problems with? If you weren't having any problems before you started using it then just don't worry about it. Plenty of organic gardeners use no insecticides, even pyrethrin and they don't have bug problems. Remember that insecticides kill beneficial bugs as well, such as bees.Dixana wrote:
What would you suggest I use?[/quote]SeaOfGreen wrote:
Here is a pic of my japanese eggplant with insect damage.Dixana wrote:Take and post a picture of the plant damage, and if possible, the bugs themselves. Though, there are a few people on here that might very well know what "little yellow bugs" are by that description alone.
As far as damage already done with sevin, how close to ready are the veggies? Just blossoms or tiny and still developing, I wouldn't worry. A tomato ready to eat any day now.....well....I wouldn't eat it.
There are other simple things too such as neem oil and soapy water, sometimes even a hard blast of the hose. But what works best really does depend on the bug problem.
Home Depot is a likely place to find it, although your best bet would be a local nursery, it's a fairly common thing. And if it is beetles eating your plants like doubledogfarm said, then the pyrethrin will help.SeaOfGreen wrote:Organic gardener or not Sevin is dangerous and can cause cancer, not to mention it kills beneficial bugs like I said (bee death being a big problem with sevin) and it kills your soil culture (which helps your plants grow nicely). You shouldn't look down on organic gardening like it's some crazy thing, in fact once you establish a good soil culture it's less work than non organic, and you can get higher yields than non organic and you won't deplete your soil like non organic. I used to be in your boat (although I never used pesticides, very dangerous) but the good people on this forum brought me around and hey, maybe one day we'll convince you to as well.Decado wrote:The only thing I have seen on the plants are little yellowish things that look like fleas but there is plenty of holes in my leaves. Also I'm most certainly not a organic gardener. Is the sevin dust not safe to use and have I poisened my plants because I have used alot on them?SeaOfGreen wrote: Pyrethrin (chrysanthemum extract), or nothing at all, there are some other methods to keep bugs away but I can't give any advice without knowing what kind of problems you're having. What exactly are you using it for? What are you having problems with? If you weren't having any problems before you started using it then just don't worry about it. Plenty of organic gardeners use no insecticides, even pyrethrin and they don't have bug problems. Remember that insecticides kill beneficial bugs as well, such as bees.
SeaOfGreen wrote:thats just it I have no idea what is eating my plants. can I buy pyrethrin products at home depot or walmart?
There's a new one for me to remember. What's it good for, any flying insect?rainbowgardener wrote:Here's a couple articles about the Sevin:
https://www.dontspraycalifornia.org/carbarylog.htm
https://www.healthyworld.org/sevin.html
In the second one it mentions that as well as being harmful to humans, to the environment, to all the aquatic life in the rivers and streams (once it washes off your plants into the soil and water table), to all the beneficial insects that would otherwise be protecting your plants and pollinating the, the Sevin is also harmful to your plants.
A good starting place for what to do instead, would be to blend up some garlic, onion, and hot peppers in water. Let it sit for a few hours, then strain the solids out. Add a few drops of soap (NOT detergent, dishwashing liquid is detergent) and a little bit of salad oil to help it stick to the plants. Spray that on all the affected areas, being sure to do the undersides of the leaves.
This sounds pretty good so I'll give it a try. The last thing I want to do is use something that will harm the enviroment,pets and most of all my family and I. There is a large variety of insects where I live that feed on my garden. Like the dreaded dasymutilla occidentalis(red&black ant) so I just hope this technique is powerful enough to ward off all the little invaders.rainbowgardener wrote:Here's a couple articles about the Sevin:
https://www.dontspraycalifornia.org/carbarylog.htm
https://www.healthyworld.org/sevin.html
In the second one it mentions that as well as being harmful to humans, to the environment, to all the aquatic life in the rivers and streams (once it washes off your plants into the soil and water table), to all the beneficial insects that would otherwise be protecting your plants and pollinating the, the Sevin is also harmful to your plants.
A good starting place for what to do instead, would be to blend up some garlic, onion, and hot peppers in water. Let it sit for a few hours, then strain the solids out. Add a few drops of soap (NOT detergent, dishwashing liquid is detergent) and a little bit of salad oil to help it stick to the plants. Spray that on all the affected areas, being sure to do the undersides of the leaves.
I use a product called Diatect V, which is a Pyrethrin (chrysanthemum extract). I use this for fire ants. This is the only pesticide I use other than water and insecticidal soap for aphids. I assume this stuff is okay to use. Does anyone disagree? I haven't read anything contrary so far.Decado wrote:Pyrethrin (chrysanthemum extract), or nothing at all, there are some other methods to keep bugs away but I can't give any advice without knowing what kind of problems you're having. What exactly are you using it for? What are you having problems with? If you weren't having any problems before you started using it then just don't worry about it. Plenty of organic gardeners use no insecticides, even pyrethrin and they don't have bug problems. Remember that insecticides kill beneficial bugs as well, such as bees.SeaOfGreen wrote:What would you suggest I use?Dixana wrote:Because it's so toxic it never really washes away?
I certainly would NOT apply it any more often if that's what you're thinking!!!
There's a reason that stuff has been banned almost everywhere but here.....
I can recommend the book "Good Bug, Bad Bug". It is a very handy reference for identifying garden insects... both Pests and Beneficials. Plus, organic and cultural controls are suggested for each Pest.SeaOfGreen wrote: The only thing I have seen on the plants are little yellowish things that look like fleas but there is plenty of holes in my leaves...
Good choice. I was going to say something but didn't want to shove my opinion down your throat.SeaOfGreen wrote:On second thought maybe I'll stick with the organic stuff.DoubleDogFarm wrote:SeaofGreen,
Take a look at this information from Penn State.
https://www.safe2use.com/poisons-pesticides/pesticides/misc/sevin-carbaryl-old.htm
jal_ut wrote:Whenever you have questions about any chemical that you may use in your home or garden you can get the MSDS. Just do a google search.
[url=https://www.afpmb.org/pubs/standardlists/msds/6840-00-932-7297_msds_sevin.pdf]MSDS for Sevin[/url]