Sevin Dust

[SeaOfGreen]

I'm curious as to how sevin dust stays active even after watering or rain. If water washes it away then how does protect the plants? It says to only apply once every 7-12 days but I water my garden every other day.

[gixxerific]

It says to only apply once every 7-12 days

Oh my. That's all i have to say about that.

[Dixana]

Because it's so toxic it never really washes away?
I certainly would NOT apply it any more often if that's what you're thinking!!!
There's a reason that stuff has been banned almost everywhere but here.....

[Decado]

The best answer is to just not use Sevin. It's toxic and dangerous and kills your soil culture.

[SeaOfGreen]

Because it's so toxic it never really washes away?
I certainly would NOT apply it any more often if that's what you're thinking!!!
There's a reason that stuff has been banned almost everywhere but here.....

What would you suggest I use?

[Decado]

Because it's so toxic it never really washes away?
I certainly would NOT apply it any more often if that's what you're thinking!!!
There's a reason that stuff has been banned almost everywhere but here.....

What would you suggest I use?

Pyrethrin (chrysanthemum extract), or nothing at all, there are some other methods to keep bugs away but I can't give any advice without knowing what kind of problems you're having. What exactly are you using it for? What are you having problems with? If you weren't having any problems before you started using it then just don't worry about it. Plenty of organic gardeners use no insecticides, even pyrethrin and they don't have bug problems. Remember that insecticides kill beneficial bugs as well, such as bees.

[SeaOfGreen]

Pyrethrin (chrysanthemum extract), or nothing at all, there are some other methods to keep bugs away but I can't give any advice without knowing what kind of problems you're having. What exactly are you using it for? What are you having problems with? If you weren't having any problems before you started using it then just don't worry about it. Plenty of organic gardeners use no insecticides, even pyrethrin and they don't have bug problems. Remember that insecticides kill beneficial bugs as well, such as bees.

The only thing I have seen on the plants are little yellowish things that look like fleas but there is plenty of holes in my leaves. Also I'm most certainly not a organic gardener. Is the sevin dust not safe to use and have I poisened my plants because I have used alot on them?

[Dixana]

What would you suggest I use?[/quote]
That totally depends on the type of pests you're having problems with.
Sevin is bad for beneficial bugs (which means more bad bugs if/when you stop using it) as well as people and the soil.
Tell us what kind of bad critters are invading your veggies and I'm sure we can give you loads of suggestions on how to get rid of them.......without killing everything else in the process

[SeaOfGreen]

thats just it I have no idea what is eating my plants. can I buy pyrethrin products at home depot or walmart?

[Dixana]

Take and post a picture of the plant damage, and if possible, the bugs themselves. Though, there are a few people on here that might very well know what "little yellow bugs" are by that description alone.
As far as damage already done with sevin, how close to ready are the veggies? Just blossoms or tiny and still developing, I wouldn't worry. A tomato ready to eat any day now.....well....I wouldn't eat it.
There are other simple things too such as neem oil and soapy water, sometimes even a hard blast of the hose. But what works best really does depend on the bug problem.

[SeaOfGreen]

Take and post a picture of the plant damage, and if possible, the bugs themselves. Though, there are a few people on here that might very well know what "little yellow bugs" are by that description alone.
As far as damage already done with sevin, how close to ready are the veggies? Just blossoms or tiny and still developing, I wouldn't worry. A tomato ready to eat any day now.....well....I wouldn't eat it.
There are other simple things too such as neem oil and soapy water, sometimes even a hard blast of the hose. But what works best really does depend on the bug problem.

Here is a pic of my japanese eggplant with insect damage.
http://s766.photobucket.com/albums/xx30 ... nt=031.jpg

[DoubleDogFarm]

seaOfGreen,

Looks like flea beetle damage or maybe the cucumber beetle.

[Decado]

Pyrethrin (chrysanthemum extract), or nothing at all, there are some other methods to keep bugs away but I can't give any advice without knowing what kind of problems you're having. What exactly are you using it for? What are you having problems with? If you weren't having any problems before you started using it then just don't worry about it. Plenty of organic gardeners use no insecticides, even pyrethrin and they don't have bug problems. Remember that insecticides kill beneficial bugs as well, such as bees.

The only thing I have seen on the plants are little yellowish things that look like fleas but there is plenty of holes in my leaves. Also I'm most certainly not a organic gardener. Is the sevin dust not safe to use and have I poisened my plants because I have used alot on them?

Organic gardener or not Sevin is dangerous and can cause cancer, not to mention it kills beneficial bugs like I said (bee death being a big problem with sevin) and it kills your soil culture (which helps your plants grow nicely). You shouldn't look down on organic gardening like it's some crazy thing, in fact once you establish a good soil culture it's less work than non organic, and you can get higher yields than non organic and you won't deplete your soil like non organic. I used to be in your boat (although I never used pesticides, very dangerous) but the good people on this forum brought me around and hey, maybe one day we'll convince you to as well.

thats just it I have no idea what is eating my plants. can I buy pyrethrin products at home depot or walmart?

Home Depot is a likely place to find it, although your best bet would be a local nursery, it's a fairly common thing. And if it is beetles eating your plants like doubledogfarm said, then the pyrethrin will help.

[rainbowgardener]

Here's a couple articles about the Sevin:

http://www.dontspraycalifornia.org/carbarylog.htm

http://www.healthyworld.org/sevin.html

In the second one it mentions that as well as being harmful to humans, to the environment, to all the aquatic life in the rivers and streams (once it washes off your plants into the soil and water table), to all the beneficial insects that would otherwise be protecting your plants and pollinating the, the Sevin is also harmful to your plants.

A good starting place for what to do instead, would be to blend up some garlic, onion, and hot peppers in water. Let it sit for a few hours, then strain the solids out. Add a few drops of soap (NOT detergent, dishwashing liquid is detergent) and a little bit of salad oil to help it stick to the plants. Spray that on all the affected areas, being sure to do the undersides of the leaves.

[garden5]

Here's a couple articles about the Sevin:

http://www.dontspraycalifornia.org/carbarylog.htm

http://www.healthyworld.org/sevin.html

In the second one it mentions that as well as being harmful to humans, to the environment, to all the aquatic life in the rivers and streams (once it washes off your plants into the soil and water table), to all the beneficial insects that would otherwise be protecting your plants and pollinating the, the Sevin is also harmful to your plants.

A good starting place for what to do instead, would be to blend up some garlic, onion, and hot peppers in water. Let it sit for a few hours, then strain the solids out. Add a few drops of soap (NOT detergent, dishwashing liquid is detergent) and a little bit of salad oil to help it stick to the plants. Spray that on all the affected areas, being sure to do the undersides of the leaves.

There's a new one for me to remember. What's it good for, any flying insect?

Oh, and to add one more thing about sevin (like that's really necessary ), I read that it was banned in the UK.