MI Brandon
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Fertilizing

My first garden in our new home (and my first as an adult) is doing great so far.
I have broccoli, strawberries, spinach, romaine, carrots, spinach, a couple of tomato plants and one bell pepper plant - all looking healthy... still waiting on the pole beans and peas to sprout. Oh, and I got 2 blueberry plants in there and they are doing well.

The squirrels ate 2 of my large broccoli plants, one of the romaines, and 2 of the strwberries though, so I'm bummed about that.

Anyhow, I feel that now is the time to start thinking about fertilizing. All I have at home is some liquid 8-8-8 fertilizer stuff that is to be applied bi-weekly (according to the bottle), but I'm thinking it would be less of a hassle to just side dress with some slow release stuff instead.

The soil was unammended this year. I know I should have, but I never did. I covered the garden I dug out in the fall with a metric crapload of leaves, and then worked them into the soil before planting this year. I'll have plenty of compost for next year though. :)

Seeing that I have a wide variety of plants, and all in a smaller garden, I'm thinking it would probably be better to use just one fertilizer for all of them in order to keep things simple. With the collection of information that you all share, what do you feel would be the best to use on everything? I was leaning towards using a basic 5-5-5 all-around fertilizer for everything. From my reading it looks like this will provide plenty of goodness to most of the plants, with just a little lacking here and there. I still have coffee grounds to add as well, it seems to help keep the fluffy tailed rodents away from my tomatoes.

Is there anything else you think I should do? Maybe buy a bag of compost to side dress with as well as the 5-5-5? Or should I just use the 8-8-8 liquid stuff twice a month (which would run out pretty quickly).

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MI Brandon wrote:I have broccoli, strawberries, spinach, romaine, carrots, spinach, a couple of tomato plants and one bell pepper plant - all looking healthy...
This is my personal opinion only... I don't like to use any of the petro-chemical fertilizers... 5-5-5, 8-8-8, none of that stuff.
Others folks do, and I won't argue with them; but those fertilizers don't work for the way I like to garden.

You said everything looks healthy now. So, my suggestion would be to start composting now... you might have some good material to side-dress with sooner than you think.
Also, if you need to make an amendment to the soil sooner, there are lots of organic supplements to choose from: Bone Meal, Blood Meal, Rock Phosphate, Greensand, Wood ash, Epsom salts, and so forth.

It sounds like your garden is off to a good start... best of luck!

MI Brandon
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Here's some photos of me and my little boy's garden.

The first bed (next to the hedges) is all broccoli. We eat a lot of broccoli! The plants in the back we bought as seedlings. The front ones we started from seed in the garden. I'm going to feel bad when I have to thin them out.
The middle bed has strawberries up front, then 2 bell pepper plants, a roma tomato plant, and behind Mr. Hoots is a few rows of carrots.
The bed on the far right has two blueberry bushes and a stray strawberry plant up front, romaine in the middle, and spinach in the back.
Along the back row we have 2 more tomato plants (Big Boy I think), with peas on the left side and pole beans on the right side that will both be using the fence as a trellis.
[img]https://pengaru.com/~brandon/Garden/DSC_0790.JPG[/img]

My bigger broccoli plants. Fluffy tailed rodents ate the ones that are missing :(
[img]https://pengaru.com/~brandon/Garden/DSC_0791.JPG[/img]

My baby broccolis, the ones we started from seeds. Not looking forward to thinning them, they are my babies!!!
[img]https://pengaru.com/~brandon/Garden/DSC_0792.JPG[/img]

some closer pictures.
[img]https://pengaru.com/~brandon/Garden/DSC_0793.JPG[/img]
[img]https://pengaru.com/~brandon/Garden/DSC_0794.JPG[/img]

The little strawberry patch. See the missing one? Yup, it got eaten too! They also got at the one across it but it managed to survive. Maybe I'll transplant my "stray" strawberry plant over in there.
[img]https://pengaru.com/~brandon/Garden/DSC_0795.JPG[/img]

Spinach
[img]https://pengaru.com/~brandon/Garden/DSC_0796.JPG[/img]

Romaine
[img]https://pengaru.com/~brandon/Garden/DSC_0797.JPG[/img]

And here you can barely make out my blueberry bushes. Also my stray strawberry plant.
[img]https://pengaru.com/~brandon/Garden/DSC_0798.JPG[/img]


Everything is healthy looking and my little boy is proud of his garden. :)

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Well, that all depends. Is it an organic fertilizer like bone meal, blood meal, conttonseed meal, fish emulsion, etc. or is it some synthesized, chemical-based compound.

I'd say don't use any type of chemical fertilizer (now, this is just my opinion) due to the fact that it will both ruin the tilth of your soil (it's capacity to retain and drain water) over the long-term and hurt the soil's microbiological communities.

The microbes in your soil are what make the nutrients available to the plants and also aid the plants in a number of other ways. Once you kill them off, you will have a virtually "dead" soil and will have to keep adding the chemical fertilizers until you re-amend it and re-establish the microbial communities.

MI Brandon
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I understand what the two of you are saying about using chemical fertilizers. At least next year I will have plenty of compost and a better understanding of things.

So a side dressing of some good organics is likely in my future... but what? Maybe a mixture of aged manure and meal? I'd be looking for something that is ideal for use on all the plants just to keep things simple.

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MI Brandon wrote:So side dressing of some good organics is likely in my future... but what? .
Compost or composted manures (if they are fully aged).
Have a soil test done at your local County Ag Extension. Then you can supplement Meals and/or Minerals if a deficiency is detected.

I would highly recommend that you Mulch the garden; use grass clippings and/or leaves when you have them available.
That will provide a lot of benefits:
moisture retention
weed suppression
prevent "soil splash" on your plants from rain/watering
adds organic matter to the soil as the mulch breaks down



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