Hi everyone,
I am new to this forum and to vegetable gardening (I do organic).
My corn was doing fine, good number of cobs with silks. This morning, I went out to do my morning check and all the silks are gone. They were close to ready to harvest (I think, based on what I read. The silks were a couple weeks old and getting pretty dark).
Is there still hope for my plants or should I just pull them up?
PS: I have another section of corn about 30 feet away, planted a few weeks later than the problem section. They still have their silks.
Thank you in advance for any help
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I have never known any bug that eat only the silks. Maybe they dried up and fell off.
The silks will tell you when the corn is ready to pick. When the silks start to turn a little brown you need to keep an eye on it. Do not wait until the silks turn brown and dry completely out the corn will be hard and loose all it flavor. When the silks are about 80% brown and dry they are probably ready to pick. It is better to pick early than to pick late and eat hard corn with no flavor. Boil a large pan of water then after it is boiling pick the corn. Peak off the green and brake off the cob end. Put corn in boiling water as quick as you can. For some reason when corn is picked it starts loosing it flavor and within about 30 minutes it has lost about 70% of its flavor. Don't pick the corn until it is ready to eat and put it in boiling water as quick as you can.
The silks will tell you when the corn is ready to pick. When the silks start to turn a little brown you need to keep an eye on it. Do not wait until the silks turn brown and dry completely out the corn will be hard and loose all it flavor. When the silks are about 80% brown and dry they are probably ready to pick. It is better to pick early than to pick late and eat hard corn with no flavor. Boil a large pan of water then after it is boiling pick the corn. Peak off the green and brake off the cob end. Put corn in boiling water as quick as you can. For some reason when corn is picked it starts loosing it flavor and within about 30 minutes it has lost about 70% of its flavor. Don't pick the corn until it is ready to eat and put it in boiling water as quick as you can.
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Thank you for the reply Gary, that will help with my other corn section....any advice on the section that is missing the silks (I think it happened in less than 36 hours)?Gary350 wrote:The silks will tell you when the corn is ready to pick. When the silks start to turn a little brown you need to keep an eye on it. Do not wait until the silks turn brown and dry completely out the corn will be hard and loose all it flavor. When the silks are about 80% brown and dry they are probably ready to pick. It is better to pick early than to pick late and eat hard corn with no flavor. Boil a large pan of water then after it is boiling pick the corn. Peak off the green and brake off the cob end. Put corn in boiling water as quick as you can. For some reason when corn is picked it starts loosing it flavor and within about 30 minutes it has lost about 70% of its flavor. Don't pick the corn until it is ready to eat and put it in boiling water as quick as you can.
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Thank you for the advise Applestar.applestar wrote:I would try picking some of the corn and examining them for signs of damage inside.
I just picked one....no sign of bugs/pests inside
The kernels looked fine, though a little small. However, my plants are a little closer together than they should be and I read this could result in small corn. The corn itself, is not quite as large a a standard ear.
Will my corn continue to grow in size if they have no silks exposed?
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Once the corn are pollinated, and that happens while the silks are green, I don't think they serve any function, though I might be wrong. Japanese beetles/Junebugs eat corn silks. Do you have them in your garden?
For what it's worth (FWIW) - Last year, I cooked young corn with small kernels that I accidentally picked along with the others (I steam them in their jackets for maximum flavor) and the cobs of the immature corn were tender enough to eat... and SWEET! So even though the kernels were small and taste-less, the kids loved them.
For what it's worth (FWIW) - Last year, I cooked young corn with small kernels that I accidentally picked along with the others (I steam them in their jackets for maximum flavor) and the cobs of the immature corn were tender enough to eat... and SWEET! So even though the kernels were small and taste-less, the kids loved them.
Thanks everyone....
I don't see any bugs, but I could just be missing them.
I did some reading and I think in Calif our problem is June bugs; apparently the japanese beetle has not traveled to California yet.
Anyway, I guess I will just wait for the cobs to get a little bigger and try to harvest a few.
Now I have to go figure out why most of my cucumbers are CURLcumbers
I don't see any bugs, but I could just be missing them.
I did some reading and I think in Calif our problem is June bugs; apparently the japanese beetle has not traveled to California yet.
Anyway, I guess I will just wait for the cobs to get a little bigger and try to harvest a few.
Now I have to go figure out why most of my cucumbers are CURLcumbers
First Japanese Beetles showed up this weekend. Finished cultivating pumpkins and was finishing up with the hoe and saw a pair doing the wild thing in the indian corn. Put out the beetle traps and had a few dozen in each by Sunday evening...
I was hoping I could get away without applying Permethrin to the sweet corn this year... or at least the early corn. Doesn't look that way. Late corn (Mid - Late August) always needs to be sprayed due to ear worms...
I was hoping I could get away without applying Permethrin to the sweet corn this year... or at least the early corn. Doesn't look that way. Late corn (Mid - Late August) always needs to be sprayed due to ear worms...
A few days after my initial post here, the cobs started to be eaten every night, 2-3 per night. All that would be left is the cob with the kernels eaten away and a mess of shredded husk on the ground. I have no idea if it is thing that was eating away the silks the previsous nights. The pest got around 20+ ears of an entire small section of corn before we pulled it out (he ate all the corn except for two ears that were ready to harvest that we beat him to...omg it was so sweet and tasty!) So far he has not paid any attention to the other section of corn we have and it is almost ready to harvest.
So, the next night, my Tomatoes (that are just starting to ripen) become the target. 3-5 per night are half to completely eaten from the bottom up...the completely green ones are left alone. I started having visions of myself sitting in a rocking chair in the backyard all night with a shotgun in my lap.
I tired an organic soap, but that did not seem to stop the hungry critter. So, after losing around 30ish very large almost ready to harvest tomatoes, I made a hot sauce of vegetable oil, cayenne pepper and garlic. Before it got dark, I put on some latex gloves and massaged every single tomato with the oil mix...it takes about 20 minutes to get them all (around 40 ish with more on the way). The first night, not one single bite was taken, so I did it for the last 4 nights and still not one bite gone...yay! I notice that the oil is also protecting the tomatoes from whatever bug/pest has been taking smaller (about 1/2"-1") chunks out of the top of the tomatoes. So, I guess my tomatoes get nightly massages
After trying to listen for and catch a glimpse of our garden thief, we finally saw it last night.... I was in the back room with the door open and heard noises from the tomato bushes. I grabbed the flashlight and my hubby and I chased the sound until it jumped up on the block wall... a RAT! We have roof rats out in southern California, but I had never seen one before.
Apparently rats do not like really spicy food. I have no idea if this oil mix I am using will affect the tomatoes, but at least the rat isn't getting the rest of them.
My first gardening experience is a true learning experience...I have an long list of what "not" to do next season
So, the next night, my Tomatoes (that are just starting to ripen) become the target. 3-5 per night are half to completely eaten from the bottom up...the completely green ones are left alone. I started having visions of myself sitting in a rocking chair in the backyard all night with a shotgun in my lap.
I tired an organic soap, but that did not seem to stop the hungry critter. So, after losing around 30ish very large almost ready to harvest tomatoes, I made a hot sauce of vegetable oil, cayenne pepper and garlic. Before it got dark, I put on some latex gloves and massaged every single tomato with the oil mix...it takes about 20 minutes to get them all (around 40 ish with more on the way). The first night, not one single bite was taken, so I did it for the last 4 nights and still not one bite gone...yay! I notice that the oil is also protecting the tomatoes from whatever bug/pest has been taking smaller (about 1/2"-1") chunks out of the top of the tomatoes. So, I guess my tomatoes get nightly massages
After trying to listen for and catch a glimpse of our garden thief, we finally saw it last night.... I was in the back room with the door open and heard noises from the tomato bushes. I grabbed the flashlight and my hubby and I chased the sound until it jumped up on the block wall... a RAT! We have roof rats out in southern California, but I had never seen one before.
Apparently rats do not like really spicy food. I have no idea if this oil mix I am using will affect the tomatoes, but at least the rat isn't getting the rest of them.
My first gardening experience is a true learning experience...I have an long list of what "not" to do next season
janna_s wrote:A few days after my initial post here, the cobs started to be eaten every night, 2-3 per night. All that would be left is the cob with the kernels eaten away and a mess of shredded husk on the ground.
Classic Raccoon damage
I have no idea if it is thing that was eating away the silks the previsous nights.
NO, Silk disappearance is either Japanese beetle damage or possibly deer as they will sometimes nibble off the silk. But generally they'll start by pulling the tassel off of the top of the plant. Easy to track in the garden too...
The pest got around 20+ ears of an entire small section of corn before we pulled it out (he ate all the corn except for two ears that were ready to harvest that we beat him to...omg it was so sweet and tasty!) So far he has not paid any attention to the other section of corn we have and it is almost ready to harvest.
Raccoon have a sweet tooth... They will test here and there prior to peak but once those kernels fill and are ready they'll feast.
So, the next night, my Tomatoes (that are just starting to ripen) become the target. 3-5 per night are half to completely eaten from the bottom up...the completely green ones are left alone. I started having visions of myself sitting in a rocking chair in the backyard all night with a shotgun in my lap.
Live trap, a few marshmallows followed up with a 22 in the morning works well. Plan on multiple catches..
I tired an organic soap, but that did not seem to stop the hungry critter. So, after losing around 30ish very large almost ready to harvest tomatoes, I made a hot sauce of vegetable oil, cayenne pepper and garlic. Before it got dark, I put on some latex gloves and massaged every single tomato with the oil mix...it takes about 20 minutes to get them all (around 40 ish with more on the way). The first night, not one single bite was taken, so I did it for the last 4 nights and still not one bite gone...yay! I notice that the oil is also protecting the tomatoes from whatever bug/pest has been taking smaller (about 1/2"-1") chunks out of the top of the tomatoes. So, I guess my tomatoes get nightly massages
After trying to listen for and catch a glimpse of our garden thief, we finally saw it last night.... I was in the back room with the door open and heard noises from the tomato bushes. I grabbed the flashlight and my hubby and I chased the sound until it jumped up on the block wall... a RAT! We have roof rats out in southern California, but I had never seen one before.
Apparently rats do not like really spicy food. I have no idea if this oil mix I am using will affect the tomatoes, but at least the rat isn't getting the rest of them.
That is a new one... I ahve a few rats in the barn but never have seen them attack produce... better file this one away in my melon
My first gardening experience is a true learning experience...I have an long list of what "not" to do next season
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