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One of my basil seed pots didn't appear to germinate with exception of one seed which died before really breaking the surface. The ten or so seeds were potted with 100% coir. Need more basil starters so I potted up some seeds w/ 40% perlite/60% coir and kept the seeds almost just on the surface. Barely covered with soil. This time I put in a few toothpicks and draped saran wrap over them to keep the moisture/humidity in but not on the surface.

48 hours later...

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_65.jpg[/img]

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_64.jpg[/img]

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_66.jpg[/img]

I'm going to slowly remove the saran wrap over a few days to fully expose the seedlings. I also did this to basil seeds in five other cells 48 hours ago which appear to be doing the same thing. :)

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Couple of questions...

What is causing these leaves to darken on the edges of this pepper plant?

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_69.jpg[/img]

I'm pretty sure the middle bottom basil plant is genovese, but I am not sure of the other two. I planted lettuce leaf basil seeds as well as genovese basil seeds. Are those lettuce leaf basil plants?

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_70.jpg[/img]

Appreciate any input!

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A few plants are almost ready to be hardened off to head to our yard...

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_71.jpg[/img]

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_72.jpg[/img]

Peppers are coming along nicely. Happy about the jalapeno on the right as it was not doing so well until it got potted up. :)

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_73.jpg[/img]

Much better results with the basil this go around. Will let these come up as is in clumps.

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_74.jpg[/img]

Regarding my post above, the darkness on the pepper leaves is possibly due to lack of nutrients so I poured some 1/2 strength MG water on these to see what they'd do.

Need some warmer weather now to plant!

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Hey SG! Things seem to be going swimmingly :) Yellowing leaves are often a result of overwatering(especially with plants that are in containers). Wait a few more days between waterings and see what happens...or if you want, you can probably wait until the plants look physically different(a little droopy) before watering to get a good idea of how long you can go between waterings.

Do your containers have good drainage? This is a must for container gardening as well.

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James282 wrote:Hey SG! Things seem to be going swimmingly :) Yellowing leaves are often a result of overwatering(especially with plants that are in containers). Wait a few more days between waterings and see what happens...or if you want, you can probably wait until the plants look physically different(a little droopy) before watering to get a good idea of how long you can go between waterings.

Do your containers have good drainage? This is a must for container gardening as well.

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Yes - I made this mistake previously. I now mix ~40% perlite with ~60% potting soil and wait until the mix is almost dried out before watering. The darkening of the pepper foliage is what was concerning me.

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WOW! All your stuff is looking great!

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Thanks, oldschoolvdub. :)

Think I have my method down now for starting seeds and getting them to starter size.

Here's my tray of starters waiting for some warmer weather...

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_75.jpg[/img]

Starting basil with multiple seeds seems to be the way to go. Looking for 5-8 plants per pot.

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_76.jpg[/img]

The Jalapeno plant which was barely holding on is doing well...

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_77.jpg[/img]

This pepper plant seems a bit lost...

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_78.jpg[/img]

The store bought bell pepper seeds I dried and planted are sprouting - will transplant a few to pots and dump the rest.

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_79.jpg[/img]

The towel I had taped in place to minimize light pouring into our office looked a bit tacky so I made a trip to Michael's for some poster board and magnetic tape. Along with some weather stripping and rubber feet, I made a cleaner cover.

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_81.jpg[/img]

Looking forward to harvesting seeds this year as well.

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Looks like a few of my pepper plant starters are pushing out their first blooms... :)

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_83.jpg[/img]

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_82.jpg[/img]

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my basil is doing really good also, but for some reason all my peppers don't really seem to be growing much at all. Not sure why, but they look healthy otherwise

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oldschoolvdub wrote:my basil is doing really good also, but for some reason all my peppers don't really seem to be growing much at all. Not sure why, but they look healthy otherwise
Some of my peppers have been really growing while a few others have not been doing much. Not sure what those doing well and those doing poorly have in common. :?:

With warm weather here for at least a week, I decided to move a few pepper and basil plants into our beds on the side of our house. Root systems certainly look like they're ready for the soil...

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_84.jpg[/img]

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Peppers like hot; wait for the really hot stuff and they'll jump...

Just a bang up job on the seed starting AND journaling for us, SG. Very impressive; I am inspired to do more starts myself next year...

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Agreed - it's been great to follow this story...can't wait to follow along as the summer progresses. You can be sure you inspired a lot of us to start more form seed next year :)

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Thanks for the kinds words. If one person goes out and gives this a whirl after reading this thread then I'm happy. :)

I placed my cucumber starts into our garden too soon, on 4/28, and some heavy rain / cool weather got the best of three of the four...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_86.jpg[/img]

I went ahead and put another set of seedlings together last weekend. Will wait until these push out their second set of true leaves before placing into our garden. By then the warmer weather should be upon us.

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_91.jpg[/img]

The basil seed groups I planted are doing well. A little more height and these will head to our garden. Ran out of pots so I used some party cups, cut to height with drainage slits cut into the bottom(used a pair of scissors to nip a few cuts on the bottom edge of the cup). Some more basil starters are off to the right covered in saran wrap. I used a rubber band to keep the saran wrap in place this time vs just draping over. Will check them tonight for sprouts.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_90.jpg[/img]

Cilantro... even at this size, the small leaves, when crushed, put off a very potent/fresh scent. Looking forward to using this fresh out of the garden this summer.

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_88.jpg[/img]

Carrots...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_89.jpg[/img]

Lettuce mix... I need to plant another row of this in a few weeks so once this one is done, we'll have a second row to consume from. Very nice to be able to go out and pick lettuce for dinner salads at night.
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48-hours later - my new batch of basil seeds have sprouted.

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_92.jpg[/img]

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_93.jpg[/img]

I removed the rubber banded saran wrap, put a toothpick in the middle of each pot and loosely draped saran wrap over them. Will leave them like this for two days for the sprouts to develop more but also to let air in so mold doesn't form. Nice to be able to reproduce results. :)

I don't need these for our garden but wanted to verify my method. These will be given away to friends/family.

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Things are coming along nicely for the most part.

The starters we started from seed, which have gone into the ground, are doing well. :)

Sweet Basil...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_94.jpg[/img]

Sweet Pepper...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_95.jpg[/img]

Roma Tomato...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_96.jpg[/img]

Roma Tomato...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_97.jpg[/img]

The above tomatoes I started from seed are almost as large as the starters I put in the ground around when I started these

from seed. :)

Genovese basil...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_98.jpg[/img]

Jalapeno pepper (I think - need to tag my stuff better next year)...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_99.jpg[/img]

Leftover potted seedlings I am keeping. Going to either use or give away..
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_101.jpg[/img]

I rooted a few cuttings of rosemary from a new plant I bought to replace our old one(took two weeks in water) - above pic.

My old plant grew large and very woody. I trimmed it back a bit too much and it died. In the future, when my plant gets

too large, I'll root a few cuttings to then just yank out the whole plant to replace with the small rooted cuttings to

start over. :)

A volunteer tomato plant... guessing from the kitchen scraps we tossed in the beds over the winter?
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_102.jpg[/img]

Cilantro - going to let some go to seed to keep this little plot going and to save seeds for next year.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_103.jpg[/img]

Italian Parsley starter is doing well...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_104.jpg[/img]

Lettuce mix almost ready to provide a few dinner salads a week. Need to plant another row soon.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_105.jpg[/img]

Sugar snap peas / Walla Walla Onions / Lettuce mix / Carrots...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_106.jpg[/img]

Our raspberries are doing well as well. Lots of berries on the way!
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_100.jpg[/img]

Spinach has come in unevenly - not sure what the culprit is here...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_107.jpg[/img]

Pole beans seemed to have been munched on by something - not doing well...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_108.jpg[/img]

Green onions are coming in slowly...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_109.jpg[/img]

Baby reds are doing well. They've pushed up through ~12 inches of soil so far. Will be time to stack more soil on them here shortly. Hopefully get about 2 foot total soil on top of them before we stop stacking it on.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_110.jpg[/img]

Going to put in some strawberry plants tonight.

Appreciate any input on the above plants having issues. :)

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I've had good luck with putting saran wrap over my potted basil seeds for 48 hours to aid in germination. The saran wrap can be a pain to put on each pot so I was thinking of something easier. This should do the trick. 20oz beverage tops (picked a few up from a local Peet's Coffee). I cut one down to just above the lip and it fits perfect in this smaller pot. The small hole in the top should allow air circulation but minimize evaporation. Keep the soil moist but reduce risk of mold and also give you some room to sprout. If you do your starters in the Dixie 20oz party cups, this would work as well. The curved top is nice as well as any condensation will drip back down the sides vs onto your new sprouts.

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_111.jpg[/img]

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_112.jpg[/img]

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My cucumber seedlings are three weeks old. The second set of primaries are present and the weather will be very nice for the next week at least so into the garden they go.

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_114.jpg[/img]

The afternoons have been on the toasty side and these have been hardened off for a week with morning sun, so they'll get sun shades for the afternoon(cardboard on a bamboo skewer).

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_115.jpg[/img]

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_117.jpg[/img]

I had to do this before with some tomato plants when the warm weather hit early and it did well to allow the plants to grow more without getting hit hard by the afternoon sun before full exposure.

I'm curious if these plants are similar to tomatoes in that if you plant them deep, these nodules will become roots?

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I read the whole four pages from start to finish!!!! Impressive and yes, inspiring!!! I've been buying starters from Wal-Mart, with decent results, but this year, I actually planted squash, and tomatoes from seed directly into the ground last month, and they are doing fabulous. I also have kai-choy cabbage and spinach, which I've been pciking already and cooking with. Unfortunately, my corn did not do soo well, ants attacked them and I ended up pulling them out yesterday. :( Any recommendations to combat the ant problem.? (I wll look it up on this site, I'm sure there's something about 'em) As I was following along with you on your journey, I shared it with my husband and we're both inspired to try it. (From germination) I still have some time, not much, but "trial and error" right? Thanks again for your daily updates, I'm enjoying the journey with you. :D Aloha!!

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You are darn tootin those will be roots, SG; I plant my maters with a post hole digger...bury two thirds of a plant sometimes... you will be glad you did come summer and heavy watering; more roots means less water hauling (even moisture is necessary for fruit development, but it is easier to maintain and you will never get wilty...) Your plants look great... :D

Aloha Naehu! Gardening in Hawaii, tough break... :roll: :lol:

Ants, huh? Well, diatomaceous earth works, but get the garden grade, not the heat treated pool grade or it kills your worms as well... a lot of folks swear by boiling water too and that comes from folks in fire ant country, so you know it works...just don't boil your roots...

So how did the ants ruin the corn? We don't want to hijack SG's great thread but I have to know how that turned out. What say you start a thread on ants in corn on the Veggie Forum? I'll read it for sure, and I bet a bunch of other folks will too. :)

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Naehu808 wrote:I read the whole four pages from start to finish!!!! Impressive and yes, inspiring!!! I've been buying starters from Wal-Mart, with decent results, but this year, I actually planted squash, and tomatoes from seed directly into the ground last month, and they are doing fabulous.
I didn't ponder planting directly into the ground for tomatoes but then again, we always use starters. That's pretty cool you can do tomatoes from seed in the garden. :)
I also have kai-choy cabbage and spinach, which I've been pciking already and cooking with. Unfortunately, my corn did not do soo well, ants attacked them and I ended up pulling them out yesterday. :( Any recommendations to combat the ant problem.? (I wll look it up on this site, I'm sure there's something about 'em) As I was following along with you on your journey, I shared it with my husband and we're both inspired to try it. (From germination) I still have some time, not much, but "trial and error" right? Thanks again for your daily updates, I'm enjoying the journey with you. :D Aloha!!
Would be interesting to hear what else does well in your climate. Glad you're enjoying this thread. Certainly learned a bunch myself this year starting from seed and from reading this forum.

THG - thanks for that - I'll need to mound some more soil up around my cuke starters to help them put more roots out. I like the idea of having more roots in the ground!

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My starters are getting to be pretty big indoors. I've moved a few to larger pots and will place them by windows to see how they do indoors. The rest will go to friends this next week.

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_118.jpg[/img]

Peppers!

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_119.jpg[/img]

Some new shoots...

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_120.jpg[/img]

More peppers...

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_121.jpg[/img]

Basil starters doing well...

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_122.jpg[/img]

Happy root system on this starter. Moving it into a slightly large pot for the next week.

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_123.jpg[/img]

Red potatoes... we've stacked about 18" of soil on from where these started. Will put on a few more inches of soil. I dug below the soil line of the box so we get more yeild. This box should be covered with potato plants when they all catch up. :)

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_124.jpg[/img]

Cucumber plants taking to the garden better this round(last ones croaked due to being put out too early)...

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_125.jpg[/img]

Italian parsley and cilantro really taking off now. Should be able to start pulling for use in our cooking - woo hoo!

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_126.jpg[/img]

New rosemary plant and rooted cutting from it doing well...

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_127.jpg[/img]

Sugar snap peas...

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_128.jpg[/img]

Green onions... will put more seeds in the ground next year. Kinda sparse.

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_129.jpg[/img]

Extra starters still doing - off to some friend's gardens this weekend...

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_130.jpg[/img]

Pepper plant...

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_131.jpg[/img]

Roma and Beefsteak tomatoes. These are from seed and seem more stocky/bushy than the store bought starters I planted...

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_132.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_134.jpg[/img]

Tomato blossoms...

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_135.jpg[/img]

Raspberries are doing well. Cool to look at this pic and the previous which was just a bunch of 6" suckers. Upper set of cables is at 5 ft. :)

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_136.jpg[/img]

Raspberries!

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_137.jpg[/img]

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Starting to warm up here and our plants seem to like it. :)

One of our first peppers... think these are jalapeno or some kind of sweet pepper...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_151.jpg[/img]

This pepper plant has had some issues. It dropped all buds when I moved it to this larger pot. It dropped them all again when it got a bit dry. I will be moving this to a large pot soon and wonder if it will drop them all again? Otherwise it's doing well here by the window.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_139.jpg[/img]

Bell pepper plant started from seeds out of a store bought bell pepper...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_140.jpg[/img]

Baby Red Potatoes...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_141.jpg[/img]

Strawberries are coming along now...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_142.jpg[/img]

My cucumber plants are finally taking off. Have some twist ties tied loosely onto the string and plants to start training them onto the string to climb...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_143.jpg[/img]

Beans finally taking off after several baths in insecticidal soap to keep bugs from munching on them...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_144.jpg[/img]

Italian Parsely and Cilantro. Letting the cilantro bolt to get seeds...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_145.jpg[/img]

Rosemary, Oregano & thyme cuttings taking off...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_146.jpg[/img]

Basil plant decimated by bugs. This is damn near the same size it was when I first put it into the ground. Bought some Ortho brand insecticidal soap last night to put on this. Very lack luster performance here. Hopefully that soap does the trick.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_147.jpg[/img]

Tomatoes, basil & peppers. The tomato plants on the far left and right were started from seed. The one on the far right is very solid with a stalk nearly 1" in one part.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_148.jpg[/img]

More tomatoes, basil and pepper plants.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_138.jpg[/img]

Romas!
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_149.jpg[/img]

Nice to see some tomatoes and peppers. Now I just need to get my basil inline.

Where do you guys typically buy your neem oil? Pondering trying that on my basil.

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Neem can be a pretty strong scent all its own; might be one of the few things I would NOT try neem on for that reason...

I think that may be slug or earwig damage; do some reconoitering first to find the actual culprit (if you don't see them in the day, and it sounds like you don't, then the night time is the right time 8) ) Bet you it's one or the other (I think slugs); if you can clean them up you should be fine. Suffered some very similar nibbling and [url=https://www.paghat.com/slugcontrol.html]iron phosphate[/url]took care of the issue...

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The Helpful Gardener wrote:Neem can be a pretty strong scent all its own; might be one of the few things I would NOT try neem on for that reason...

I think that may be slug or earwig damage; do some reconoitering first to find the actual culprit (if you don't see them in the day, and it sounds like you don't, then the night time is the right time 8) ) Bet you it's one or the other (I think slugs); if you can clean them up you should be fine. Suffered some very similar nibbling and [url=https://www.paghat.com/slugcontrol.html]iron phosphate[/url]took care of the issue...

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We do have our share of earwigs around our yard. What don't they like? :twisted:

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Hey SG! I'm admiring your success! Especially with the herb cuttings. I'm renting in a house that was previously owned by a garden enthusiast (and I credit my recent undertaking of my gardening hobby to her) and she has a huge rosemary plant in the backyard garden! It's very woody like the one you described, so I've been taking cuttings from it and the nearby culinary sage plant in hopes to be able to give the scions to friends and family. I didn't think of replacing the whole plant (yet) because it's the commanding presence at the moment, and the garden wouldn't be the same without it! It's been taking mine a little longer than 2 weeks to root in water, and I haven't had much success transplanting them after roots appear (read: no success). I'm thinking the cuttings I tried were too woody already back in early Spring, and now that it's been growing this season, I can pick some nice, fresh, greener cuttings and try again.

I'm admiring your peppers! I planted some peppers that I bought from Lowes in containers and they've been doing very well. The mystery pepper two posts ago looks just like the new jalapenos on my plants, but I suppose it'll make itself clear to you which one it is in the next week or so :)

I just read all five pages in a row *huff puff* whew! What a great journal thread. If only I could streamline my photo uploading I might do something like this, myself!

Best of luck to you and your growing!

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Hey, GitarooGarden... sounds like you're still learning as I am. It's pretty cool to figure stuff out after a failure. Fortifies your technique I think. :)

My peppers are finally moving along nicely.

Bell pepper started from seeds out of a store bought bell pepper. About six or so peppers on this plant at the moment...

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Bell and sweet peppers along with a Jalapeno there off to the left...

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Sweet peppers...

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Jalapeno plant taking off! About fifty buds or so on this plant. :)

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Happy to see these plants doing well after last year's failed attempt(two plants, one single pepper yield). Even though they were rocks, Charlie Brown had a better yield trick or treating.

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Hey SG, everything looks great, I never thought of doing rows in a raised bed like that, my stuff is all mixed in lol what type of wood are your boxes made from?

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wolfie wrote:Hey SG, everything looks great, I never thought of doing rows in a raised bed like that, my stuff is all mixed in lol what type of wood are your boxes made from?
Pressure treated pine boards from Home Depot. Check the labels on the lumber you're looking to use if you're pondering going the pressure treated route and do your research. I live in the NW and the lifespan of untreated wood is a bit short. Everything I read about the boards I used in particular, stated there is minimal risk with the chemicals used to treat them, but just to be sure, I'll use plain wood next time to remove any doubt and deal with rot over time if that happens. :)

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I read that using pressure treated was bad for growing anything edible, so I used a plain wood and wrapped it in black plastic to help with the erosion..... I like the look of yours better tho!

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Raspberries are in full swing now. Been able to pull roughly 1C a day of berries from our small strip of plants. Getting pretty tall too.

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This image was taken from the ground up. The berries seem to hide under the leaves so when picking, you need to look up a little to find them. :)

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English Cucumbers... training them up onto this trellis.

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Cucumber starting to grow...

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Cilantro going to seed(corriander) in order to plant more plants.
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Chili pepper plant... these will turn red when ripe. Looking forward to seeing this. :)

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Nice SG...

Your cukes are a little behind mine, but your peppers are ahead of me. Such are the vagaries of growing things... go figure...

:roll: HG

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Amazing man! I just read the whole thread and awesome job. I have some planning coming along with my winter crop indoors. I have a 600watt mh/hps switchable ballasts and bulb waiting :) Still need to figure out where its goin in the house.

Ill be keeping up with this tread, good job man!

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Thanks, Splat! Nice looking journal you have going there. Cool idea on cloning Tomatos. Never thought of that. I kinda halfway have a DIY cloning machine on my wish list. Costs around $25 to build and looks like the results are very nice. That's a nice grow light you have. Will be able to put many plants under that this winter.

My cucumbers are coming right along...

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_165.jpg[/img]

Scott - I imagine your plants are loaded up by now? I've just got a few getting near to harvest time. When is the right time to pick these sword cucumbers? Will they always straighten out when fully mature? Kinda thinking these are similar to English Cucumbers.

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Appreciate any input.

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Well the voles munched the roots on that bed; acorn squash, cukes and wax beans all took a hit. Also the Fingerling taters are in that row and suffering; probably what drew the furry b***ards in the first place :evil: "Still limping along, but getting fungal diseases even fasterr than the healthier plants (quite a challenge this year; haven't had two consecutive days without rain in weeks). A few cukes and nothing to write home about; your English looks much better than anything I've harvested so far.

Squash I am killing with right now; eating daily and just barely keeping up. Zucchini bread in the near future. Lots of green maters, but almost no red ones. Need sunshine. 'Sposed to rain tomorrow again. Well, haven't had to water, like at all... :roll:

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The Helpful Gardener wrote:Well the voles munched the roots on that bed; acorn squash, cukes and wax beans all took a hit. Also the Fingerling taters are in that row and suffering; probably what drew the furry b***ards in the first place :evil: "Still limping along, but getting fungal diseases even fasterr than the healthier plants (quite a challenge this year; haven't had two consecutive days without rain in weeks). A few cukes and nothing to write home about; your English looks much better than anything I've harvested so far.

Squash I am killing with right now; eating daily and just barely keeping up. Zucchini bread in the near future. Lots of green maters, but almost no red ones. Need sunshine. 'Sposed to rain tomorrow again. Well, haven't had to water, like at all... :roll:

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Too much rain here too. Green tomatoes. Everything is slow. And thursday night's storm tossed some plants and flooded others. I spent the sunny next day tying up plants and trying to dry out others.
Knock on wood I haven't lost any yet.
I do garden in the rain. I only stop when it pours. :lol:
Otherwise I'd get nothing done.

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The Helpful Gardener wrote:Well the voles munched the roots on that bed; acorn squash, cukes and wax beans all took a hit. Also the Fingerling taters are in that row and suffering; probably what drew the furry b***ards in the first place :evil: "Still limping along, but getting fungal diseases even fasterr than the healthier plants (quite a challenge this year; haven't had two consecutive days without rain in weeks). A few cukes and nothing to write home about; your English looks much better than anything I've harvested so far.

Squash I am killing with right now; eating daily and just barely keeping up. Zucchini bread in the near future. Lots of green maters, but almost no red ones. Need sunshine. 'Sposed to rain tomorrow again. Well, haven't had to water, like at all... :roll:

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Weather sounds like our late/Spring early/Summer - summer didn't seem to want to start for us. Great to hear your squash is performing.

These cucumbers were grub. Went ahead and pulled the two large ones and made a cucumber salad(sour cream, dill, onion, lemon, salt) to go with our burgers tonight. Damn good. :)

Found an easy way to get the small prickly things off - a few passes with a scotch brite pad under running water.

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Looks like them Cukes could have been pulled alot earlier. They almost look old. (like a old mans vajajay) lol.

Looks like you have your garden all around your property, Thats what I'v been doin too. Using all the appropriate space available :D.

I really cant wait to start a bunch of things indoors. Especially for next summer.

Those clones are still alive. BUT still havent rooted. I just changed the water in the cups because it was getting kinda murky. When I did soil clones a few months back, They didnt take this long. Next time I clone anything I'm goin the soil way. Water just takes wayyyyyy to much time!

Take care man and keep that garden green :D

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The cucumbers cut really nice. I left them on there until they were roughly the size of the ones you buy at the store. They made for a killer cucumber salad. Seems like they straighten out as they mature.

I wish we had more room for a garden but we're making due with using our beds around the yard and it's working well enough. :) Growing the cukes on a trellis is saving a lot of room.

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somegeek wrote:Found an easy way to get the small prickly things off - a few passes with a scotch brite pad under running water.
I wet the cuke, scrub with about 1 tsp of coarse Kosher salt in my hands, then lightly rinse off. Salt acts as abrasive, seasons nicely and supposedly helps to remove bitterness in the skin.

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applestar wrote:
somegeek wrote:Found an easy way to get the small prickly things off - a few passes with a scotch brite pad under running water.
I wet the cuke, scrub with about 1 tsp of coarse Kosher salt in my hands, then lightly rinse off. Salt acts as abrasive, seasons nicely and supposedly helps to remove bitterness in the skin.
Thanks, applestar - I will have to give that a try. Will have many more opportunities to do so. :)

Jalapenos(from seed) are starting to produce...

[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_167.jpg[/img]

Red Chili pepper plant(from seed)...

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Bell pepper plant from seed taken from a store bought bell pepper... one of those "eh, what the heck - give it a try" plants.

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Sweet pepper plant(from seed). One pepper just starting to turn red...

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Another Jalapeno plant(from seed) starting to take off fruit-wise...

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Beefsteak tomaotes(store bought starter)...

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Roma tomato plant(store bought starter) putting on a lackluster performance...

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My healthiest beefsteak plant(store bought starter) - near 6' tall - lots of nice large fruit...

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Beefsteak from seed - not matching what was on the packet... maybe these seeds came from some cross-polinated variety?

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Loaded up Roma plant(store bought starter)...

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Red potatoes(store bought seed potatoes) doing well... looking forward to digging these up to see how we did. :)

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Sword Cucumbers(from seed) - these are doing very well. Each of the four plants has two or three runners running up the trellis. Enjoying the following cucumber salad with these:
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Slice two large English cucumbers thin(~1lb 4oz) - potato peeler works well to get thin consistent slices)
Toss in a bowl with 1 tsp kosher salt, dump into a strainer, and place in bowl in the fridge for 1 hour to bring out excess water.

While cukes are sitting, combine in a bowl:
1 oz diced onion
2/3 C sour cream
1 heaping tsp dill
1 tsp sugar
2 Tbsp lemon

After the cukes are done in the fridge, combine with the sour cream mixture and scarf. Tastes better after a few hours so flavors can marry/develop.
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Every day or two I check them to make sure they're training up onto the trellis correctly. Next year I will space four plants a little better in anticipation of training them up onto the trellis...

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Strawberries (store bought starters)- planted a little late but growing well. I rearrange the runners every few days for even coverage and to keep them on their side of the bed...

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Couple of our basil plants(from seed)... they're coming back nicely after being cut back roughly 2/3 for a harvest...

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Potted up some habenero seeds and also have some bhut jolokia seeds on order. Will winter these plants over in our home. Looking to try some real heat. :-)

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