I shoulda mentioned as well... those clip on reflector lamps - they come in different sizes. The largest could probably accommodate two bulbs on a [url=https://i2.ebayimg.com/03/I/001/38/ag/3281_1.JPG]y-socket adapter[/url]. You could get 40W 2000 lumen bulbs for around $4 a piece. Double those up to get the ~4000 lumens you'd get from the $20 bulb I linked.James282 wrote:very nice thanks!
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Went to Home Depot and picked up some sockets, Walmart for (6) 26W 6500K CFLs and True Value for some hardware and a piece of aluminum. After a few hours in my garage I have a 9600 lumen lamp. Only running four bulbs at the moment. This thing is bright! Will use this this winter to grow some herbs indoors and for my starters from now on. Can't knock it for about $35 and a few hours work.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_lamp.jpg[/img]
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Isn't it great? I'm finding that my little kids are much less interested than my inner little kidsomegeek wrote:Feel like a little kid as I check on these a few times a day at least.
(Me: upbeat sing song announcement) "I'm going in the garage!"
(DD: playing with her toys) "Oh, you're going to go check on your plants? OK bye!"
DD2 is a bit more accommodating, and agreed to sow some round carrot seeds of her own per www.growinggrub.co.uk that someone posted. She's enchanted that they've started to sprout and mists them everyday (I keep pouring out the excess water from the tray for her. She'll get the hang of it.)
The 6 CFL lamp you made looks great. Is it hard to put together? Can you post instructions on how to make one
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This is a rough write up but should give you the main idea of how to build one...
My materials list:
(6) sockets - $1.50 each at Home Depot
(3) 2-pack - 26W 6500K CFLs for ~$21.00 at WalMart
Piece of aluminum duct from True Value - $3.50
Some wire from an old extension cable
Small piece of pegboard - 1/4" wood material minimum to support bolts
Old PC power cable with end cut-off
Electrical Tape
Solder and solder iron
Some nuts, bolts, washers from True Value
Aluminum tape
Coroplast shroud (built previously)
Pics show the general assembly.
Got started by cutting the board to size which the reflector and sockets would mount to.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_lamp_3.jpg[/img]
Put a towel in my shroud so the bulbs wouldn't roll around while I figured out what kind of layout I wanted.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_lamp_4.jpg[/img]
Drilled the board and reflector and mounted using the screws.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_lamp_1.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_lamp_5.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_lamp_6.jpg[/img]
Drilled holes for the AC wiring.
Bent the socket tabs and drilled the holes in the tabs so the bolts would fit. Pre-bent pic of socket...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_lamp_2.jpg[/img]
Taped the sockets for some extra reflectivity.
Mounted the sockets with two nuts(jammed) and wired them in(black wire(hot) to center pin and white to shell(neutral)).
Put hot glue over the terminations on the back of the sockets to prevent any shock risk.
Installed wire loops on the board for the hanging chains through the shroud.
Pressed the board/reflector assembly down to the bottom of the shroud (reflector is a bit springy) and taped in place at the edge of the reflector using 2" foil tape(very solid adhesive on this stuff).
Screwed in lamps - voila.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_lamp_7.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_lamp_8.jpg[/img]
9600 rated lumens at 156watts. Also wired up a low speed panaflo 80mm fan to cool things over my herbs/tomato starters.
You can run PC fans using a wall wart with enough power.
Will pick up a 6-pack of 2700K bulbs ($13.88 at WalMart) for when I try to get stuff to flower.
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My materials list:
(6) sockets - $1.50 each at Home Depot
(3) 2-pack - 26W 6500K CFLs for ~$21.00 at WalMart
Piece of aluminum duct from True Value - $3.50
Some wire from an old extension cable
Small piece of pegboard - 1/4" wood material minimum to support bolts
Old PC power cable with end cut-off
Electrical Tape
Solder and solder iron
Some nuts, bolts, washers from True Value
Aluminum tape
Coroplast shroud (built previously)
Pics show the general assembly.
Got started by cutting the board to size which the reflector and sockets would mount to.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_lamp_3.jpg[/img]
Put a towel in my shroud so the bulbs wouldn't roll around while I figured out what kind of layout I wanted.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_lamp_4.jpg[/img]
Drilled the board and reflector and mounted using the screws.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_lamp_1.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_lamp_5.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_lamp_6.jpg[/img]
Drilled holes for the AC wiring.
Bent the socket tabs and drilled the holes in the tabs so the bolts would fit. Pre-bent pic of socket...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_lamp_2.jpg[/img]
Taped the sockets for some extra reflectivity.
Mounted the sockets with two nuts(jammed) and wired them in(black wire(hot) to center pin and white to shell(neutral)).
Put hot glue over the terminations on the back of the sockets to prevent any shock risk.
Installed wire loops on the board for the hanging chains through the shroud.
Pressed the board/reflector assembly down to the bottom of the shroud (reflector is a bit springy) and taped in place at the edge of the reflector using 2" foil tape(very solid adhesive on this stuff).
Screwed in lamps - voila.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_lamp_7.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_lamp_8.jpg[/img]
9600 rated lumens at 156watts. Also wired up a low speed panaflo 80mm fan to cool things over my herbs/tomato starters.
You can run PC fans using a wall wart with enough power.
Will pick up a 6-pack of 2700K bulbs ($13.88 at WalMart) for when I try to get stuff to flower.
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Found that soaking my trays for about 15 minutes in 1" of water assures they get saturated with what they can absorb. Doing this every two to three days depending on how much the cells lighten up. I have my CFLs warming things up as well as a small fan which leads to further evaporation.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_23.jpg[/img]
Will be thinning out and potting up my beefsteaks today...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_24.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_26.jpg[/img]
Basil is coming along nicely...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_25.jpg[/img]
Romas have been hit and miss but a few are getting there...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_27.jpg[/img]
I added some foil lined bubble wrap to reflect light back into this area. Going to pick up some more and line the shelf walls and back with it.
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[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_23.jpg[/img]
Will be thinning out and potting up my beefsteaks today...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_24.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_26.jpg[/img]
Basil is coming along nicely...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_25.jpg[/img]
Romas have been hit and miss but a few are getting there...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_27.jpg[/img]
I added some foil lined bubble wrap to reflect light back into this area. Going to pick up some more and line the shelf walls and back with it.
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Potted up our Romas and Beefsteaks and they spent the afternoon outside in the sun.
Some had roots barely 1/2" long while others had roots stretching over 1" from the original seed. The majority of these are 22 days old.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_29.jpg[/img]
They drooped after about 30 minutes of being in their new pot but stood up straight after a few hours and did well after moving outside into the direct sunlight for about 5 hours. Looking forward to watching these take off.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_28.jpg[/img]
Note to self - don't use organic potting mix which contains natural fertilizer if planning to keep potted plants inside the house under a warm lamp. My office stunk. I love the smell of the stuff since it usually means I'm spending time in the yard but it's not something I'm gonna dab behind my ears.
The lessons keep coming...
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Some had roots barely 1/2" long while others had roots stretching over 1" from the original seed. The majority of these are 22 days old.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_29.jpg[/img]
They drooped after about 30 minutes of being in their new pot but stood up straight after a few hours and did well after moving outside into the direct sunlight for about 5 hours. Looking forward to watching these take off.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_28.jpg[/img]
Note to self - don't use organic potting mix which contains natural fertilizer if planning to keep potted plants inside the house under a warm lamp. My office stunk. I love the smell of the stuff since it usually means I'm spending time in the yard but it's not something I'm gonna dab behind my ears.
The lessons keep coming...
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I'm blown away by how quickly these have sprouted. Time to start hardening these to go into the garden?
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IMHO, they are too little to put out yet. I'd transplant them into separate pots, keep them under the lights until they get a couple sets of true leaves and then, weather cooperating, start bringing them out to harden, gradually. But I don't know if others agree.... Also I believe cucumbers are very much a warm weather plant, don't want to go in the ground until the soil is nicely warmed up. (I don't actually grow cucumbers myself due to space constraints and I don't particularly like them unless they are made into pickles )
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IMHO, they are too little to put out yet. I'd transplant them into separate pots, keep them under the lights until they get a couple sets of true leaves and then, weather cooperating, start bringing them out to harden, gradually. But I don't know if others agree.... Also I believe cucumbers are very much a warm weather plant, don't want to go in the ground until the soil is nicely warmed up. (I don't actually grow cucumbers myself due to space constraints and I don't particularly like them unless they are made into pickles )
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IMHO, they are too little to put out yet. I'd transplant them into separate pots, keep them under the lights until they get a couple sets of true leaves and then, weather cooperating, start bringing them out to harden, gradually. But I don't know if others agree.... Also I believe cucumbers are very much a warm weather plant, don't want to go in the ground until the soil is nicely warmed up. (I don't actually grow cucumbers myself due to space constraints and I don't particularly like them unless they are made into pickles )[/quote]rainbowgardener wrote:I'm blown away by how quickly these have sprouted. Time to start hardening these to go into the garden?
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Thanks for this. Will pot these up tonight to spend some time yet inside.
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Thanks for this. Will pot these up tonight to spend some time yet inside.somegeek wrote:IMHO, they are too little to put out yet. I'd transplant them into separate pots, keep them under the lights until they get a couple sets of true leaves and then, weather cooperating, start bringing them out to harden, gradually. But I don't know if others agree.... Also I believe cucumbers are very much a warm weather plant, don't want to go in the ground until the soil is nicely warmed up. (I don't actually grow cucumbers myself due to space constraints and I don't particularly like them unless they are made into pickles )rainbowgardener wrote:I'm blown away by how quickly these have sprouted. Time to start hardening these to go into the garden?
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So how well is everything growing now? Have you put anything outside yet?
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My (2) 24" 20W T12 Fluorescent lights had a total rating of 2400 lumen. This new (6) 26W 6500k CFL setup has a rated output total of 9600 lumen. Quite bright. Roughly 4800 lumen per sq ft. Think the desired amount is 5000 for indoor growing? Gonna put up some mylar on the walls of our bookshelf to keep more light in. Will work great this next winter for some indoor herbs and maybe even peppers.
The tomato are spending their second day potted and outdoors in the elements. They're doing well. Nothing in the dirt yet. I got a late start on these. Looking forward to putting some in the ground in the next few weeks I think.
Everything I put into coir has done very well. I ordered the bricks online last year. ~90% germination rate. The newspaper cups as containers didn't do so well. They didn't drain so well since I had the bottom of the cups lined as well. Just going to stick with putting seeds in the small cells and separating when potting up. Save room as well.
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The tomato are spending their second day potted and outdoors in the elements. They're doing well. Nothing in the dirt yet. I got a late start on these. Looking forward to putting some in the ground in the next few weeks I think.
Everything I put into coir has done very well. I ordered the bricks online last year. ~90% germination rate. The newspaper cups as containers didn't do so well. They didn't drain so well since I had the bottom of the cups lined as well. Just going to stick with putting seeds in the small cells and separating when potting up. Save room as well.
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The tomatoes did well for their second day outside all day. It was between 55º-65ºF w/ rain showers and periods of sun all day.
They're back under a light overnight.
The second set of true leaves is creeping up now...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_32.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_30.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_31.jpg[/img]
I'm wondering if these spending their early days under a high lumen lamp helped ready them for direct sunlight?
I covered some pieces of cardboard with mylar (emergency blanket from WalMart) using 3M spray adhesive and put them on the sides and back of our lighted shelf. That area in our bookshelf is super bright now with all the light being reflected back into the light/tray. Going to put mylar on another board to attach to the front of the shelf with velcro.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_33.jpg[/img]
Read about how to do this on another site. It seems 90% of the hits you get on google for grow lights are regarding cannabis... those guys really have their technique dialed in. Lot of good info on those sites regarding growing plants indoors.
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They're back under a light overnight.
The second set of true leaves is creeping up now...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_32.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_30.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_31.jpg[/img]
I'm wondering if these spending their early days under a high lumen lamp helped ready them for direct sunlight?
I covered some pieces of cardboard with mylar (emergency blanket from WalMart) using 3M spray adhesive and put them on the sides and back of our lighted shelf. That area in our bookshelf is super bright now with all the light being reflected back into the light/tray. Going to put mylar on another board to attach to the front of the shelf with velcro.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_33.jpg[/img]
Read about how to do this on another site. It seems 90% of the hits you get on google for grow lights are regarding cannabis... those guys really have their technique dialed in. Lot of good info on those sites regarding growing plants indoors.
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Some pics of our garden.
Spinach / Carrot / Five Lettuce Mix / Walla Walla Sweet Onions / String beans(back half / Snap Peas(front half)
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_34.jpg[/img]
String beans starting to sprout...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_35.jpg[/img]
Soaker hose layout. Connected them to the sprinker zone a few weeks back=good stuff. My son spent the morning with me doing yard work. Hoping he inherits a green thumb and appreciation for nature doing things like this. Bed is 8' x 5'. Soaker hose is 50ft.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_36.jpg[/img]
Snap Peas...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_37.jpg[/img]
Spinach...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_38.jpg[/img]
Carrots...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_39.jpg[/img]
Five Lettuce Mix...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_40.jpg[/img]
Italian Parsley(starter)...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_41.jpg[/img]
Tomato and basil currently...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_42.jpg[/img]
This bed gets sun exposure from about noon til sundown. The hardi-plank siding on the house holds a lot of heat into the evening hours so hot climate plants do well here. Empty bed space will be filled up with basil and pepper plants. I've pondered tearing up another foot of grass to expand use of this area.
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Spinach / Carrot / Five Lettuce Mix / Walla Walla Sweet Onions / String beans(back half / Snap Peas(front half)
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_34.jpg[/img]
String beans starting to sprout...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_35.jpg[/img]
Soaker hose layout. Connected them to the sprinker zone a few weeks back=good stuff. My son spent the morning with me doing yard work. Hoping he inherits a green thumb and appreciation for nature doing things like this. Bed is 8' x 5'. Soaker hose is 50ft.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_36.jpg[/img]
Snap Peas...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_37.jpg[/img]
Spinach...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_38.jpg[/img]
Carrots...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_39.jpg[/img]
Five Lettuce Mix...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_40.jpg[/img]
Italian Parsley(starter)...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_41.jpg[/img]
Tomato and basil currently...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_42.jpg[/img]
This bed gets sun exposure from about noon til sundown. The hardi-plank siding on the house holds a lot of heat into the evening hours so hot climate plants do well here. Empty bed space will be filled up with basil and pepper plants. I've pondered tearing up another foot of grass to expand use of this area.
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Thanks for the kind words.
Nice lookin lettuce, elevenplants.
Last year I had leggy sprouts that damped off. This year with a grow light and proper draining medium I've seen very good results.
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Nice lookin lettuce, elevenplants.
I've found that using a grow light this year has done the trick well.oldschoolvdub wrote:Looks great! I'd like to get my garden area to look that clean. I'm kind of Jealous! But looks great... And I keep starting my seeds inside, and they never turn out as good as if I start them outside. I think I may end up doing that next time.
Last year I had leggy sprouts that damped off. This year with a grow light and proper draining medium I've seen very good results.
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Roma & Beefsteak Tomatoes...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_43.jpg[/img]
Sweet & Jalapeno Peppers...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_44.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_45.jpg[/img]
Lettuce and Genovese Basil
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_46.jpg[/img]
THinking the secondaries on these got fried by my grow light being a little low?
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_47.jpg[/img]
Added an exhaust fan on the left to compliment the intake fan there on the right. Really moves the air through now...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_48.jpg[/img]
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[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_43.jpg[/img]
Sweet & Jalapeno Peppers...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_44.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_45.jpg[/img]
Lettuce and Genovese Basil
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_46.jpg[/img]
THinking the secondaries on these got fried by my grow light being a little low?
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_47.jpg[/img]
Added an exhaust fan on the left to compliment the intake fan there on the right. Really moves the air through now...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_48.jpg[/img]
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Cucumbers are pushing out their second true leaf... almost time to put them out here in a few weeks...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_49.jpg[/img]
Genovese basil is looking nice...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_50.jpg[/img]
The peppers have really taken off this week. Have many that are finally pushing out their first set of true leaves...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_51.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_52.jpg[/img]
The peppers have definitely taken their time.
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[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_49.jpg[/img]
Genovese basil is looking nice...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_50.jpg[/img]
The peppers have really taken off this week. Have many that are finally pushing out their first set of true leaves...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_51.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_52.jpg[/img]
The peppers have definitely taken their time.
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Questions...
How dry should I let the soil in the seedling pots get before I water? I've been watering from the bottom every three to four days, but there is still a little bit of moisture in the soil when I do this. Curious if I am not letting them dry out enough between waterings?
What's causing the yellowing on these leaves of my tomatoes?
Do folks ever trim these leaves from these young plants to redirect the plants energy to the new growth?
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_53.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_54.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_55.jpg[/img]
They spend the days outside in the sunlight and night under a fluorescent light. I've seen pics online of good results with basil under 24hr grow lights, but curious if any plants actually need time to rest at night?
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How dry should I let the soil in the seedling pots get before I water? I've been watering from the bottom every three to four days, but there is still a little bit of moisture in the soil when I do this. Curious if I am not letting them dry out enough between waterings?
What's causing the yellowing on these leaves of my tomatoes?
Do folks ever trim these leaves from these young plants to redirect the plants energy to the new growth?
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_53.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_54.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_55.jpg[/img]
They spend the days outside in the sunlight and night under a fluorescent light. I've seen pics online of good results with basil under 24hr grow lights, but curious if any plants actually need time to rest at night?
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Cucumbers have spent the last five days or so out in the garage and outside to harden off and have been doing well so I took the next step to get them into the garden. 23 days old from seed.
Nice looking roots...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_56.jpg[/img]
The roots penetrated the paper divider in a few places, but overall the dividers did their job as the four quarters pulled apart pretty easily.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_57.jpg[/img]
Putting plastic pots over them for the first few nights.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_58.jpg[/img]
I'll be putting up string to train these up onto the frame.
Tomatoes are coming along nicely as well.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_59.jpg[/img]
The biggest of the Romas and the biggest of the Beefsteak went into the ground today, one each. Those in the image will be given away to friends here in a month or so. Will be cool to see them do well in other yards and enjoyed by friends.
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Nice looking roots...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_56.jpg[/img]
The roots penetrated the paper divider in a few places, but overall the dividers did their job as the four quarters pulled apart pretty easily.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_57.jpg[/img]
Putting plastic pots over them for the first few nights.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_58.jpg[/img]
I'll be putting up string to train these up onto the frame.
Tomatoes are coming along nicely as well.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_59.jpg[/img]
The biggest of the Romas and the biggest of the Beefsteak went into the ground today, one each. Those in the image will be given away to friends here in a month or so. Will be cool to see them do well in other yards and enjoyed by friends.
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Basil is coming along. Next year I'll plant a few more seeds in a smaller area and just move them together in a clump of multiple plants.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_61.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_62.jpg[/img]
Peppers have taken off it seems...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_63.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_60.jpg[/img]
Potted using ~75% plain potting soil and ~25% perlite.
I also planted some more basil seeds but instead of just straight coir, I mixed in about 40% perlite. The straight coir seemed to stay a little too damp. Think the perlite will help with drainage.
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[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_61.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_62.jpg[/img]
Peppers have taken off it seems...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_63.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_60.jpg[/img]
Potted using ~75% plain potting soil and ~25% perlite.
I also planted some more basil seeds but instead of just straight coir, I mixed in about 40% perlite. The straight coir seemed to stay a little too damp. Think the perlite will help with drainage.
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One of my basil seed pots didn't appear to germinate with exception of one seed which died before really breaking the surface. The ten or so seeds were potted with 100% coir. Need more basil starters so I potted up some seeds w/ 40% perlite/60% coir and kept the seeds almost just on the surface. Barely covered with soil. This time I put in a few toothpicks and draped saran wrap over them to keep the moisture/humidity in but not on the surface.
48 hours later...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_65.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_64.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_66.jpg[/img]
I'm going to slowly remove the saran wrap over a few days to fully expose the seedlings. I also did this to basil seeds in five other cells 48 hours ago which appear to be doing the same thing.
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48 hours later...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_65.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_64.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_66.jpg[/img]
I'm going to slowly remove the saran wrap over a few days to fully expose the seedlings. I also did this to basil seeds in five other cells 48 hours ago which appear to be doing the same thing.
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Couple of questions...
What is causing these leaves to darken on the edges of this pepper plant?
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_69.jpg[/img]
I'm pretty sure the middle bottom basil plant is genovese, but I am not sure of the other two. I planted lettuce leaf basil seeds as well as genovese basil seeds. Are those lettuce leaf basil plants?
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_70.jpg[/img]
Appreciate any input!
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What is causing these leaves to darken on the edges of this pepper plant?
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_69.jpg[/img]
I'm pretty sure the middle bottom basil plant is genovese, but I am not sure of the other two. I planted lettuce leaf basil seeds as well as genovese basil seeds. Are those lettuce leaf basil plants?
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_70.jpg[/img]
Appreciate any input!
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A few plants are almost ready to be hardened off to head to our yard...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_71.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_72.jpg[/img]
Peppers are coming along nicely. Happy about the jalapeno on the right as it was not doing so well until it got potted up.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_73.jpg[/img]
Much better results with the basil this go around. Will let these come up as is in clumps.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_74.jpg[/img]
Regarding my post above, the darkness on the pepper leaves is possibly due to lack of nutrients so I poured some 1/2 strength MG water on these to see what they'd do.
Need some warmer weather now to plant!
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[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_71.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_72.jpg[/img]
Peppers are coming along nicely. Happy about the jalapeno on the right as it was not doing so well until it got potted up.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_73.jpg[/img]
Much better results with the basil this go around. Will let these come up as is in clumps.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_74.jpg[/img]
Regarding my post above, the darkness on the pepper leaves is possibly due to lack of nutrients so I poured some 1/2 strength MG water on these to see what they'd do.
Need some warmer weather now to plant!
somegeek
Hey SG! Things seem to be going swimmingly Yellowing leaves are often a result of overwatering(especially with plants that are in containers). Wait a few more days between waterings and see what happens...or if you want, you can probably wait until the plants look physically different(a little droopy) before watering to get a good idea of how long you can go between waterings.
Do your containers have good drainage? This is a must for container gardening as well.
James
Do your containers have good drainage? This is a must for container gardening as well.
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Yes - I made this mistake previously. I now mix ~40% perlite with ~60% potting soil and wait until the mix is almost dried out before watering. The darkening of the pepper foliage is what was concerning me.James282 wrote:Hey SG! Things seem to be going swimmingly Yellowing leaves are often a result of overwatering(especially with plants that are in containers). Wait a few more days between waterings and see what happens...or if you want, you can probably wait until the plants look physically different(a little droopy) before watering to get a good idea of how long you can go between waterings.
Do your containers have good drainage? This is a must for container gardening as well.
James
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Thanks, oldschoolvdub.
Think I have my method down now for starting seeds and getting them to starter size.
Here's my tray of starters waiting for some warmer weather...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_75.jpg[/img]
Starting basil with multiple seeds seems to be the way to go. Looking for 5-8 plants per pot.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_76.jpg[/img]
The Jalapeno plant which was barely holding on is doing well...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_77.jpg[/img]
This pepper plant seems a bit lost...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_78.jpg[/img]
The store bought bell pepper seeds I dried and planted are sprouting - will transplant a few to pots and dump the rest.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_79.jpg[/img]
The towel I had taped in place to minimize light pouring into our office looked a bit tacky so I made a trip to Michael's for some poster board and magnetic tape. Along with some weather stripping and rubber feet, I made a cleaner cover.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_81.jpg[/img]
Looking forward to harvesting seeds this year as well.
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Think I have my method down now for starting seeds and getting them to starter size.
Here's my tray of starters waiting for some warmer weather...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_75.jpg[/img]
Starting basil with multiple seeds seems to be the way to go. Looking for 5-8 plants per pot.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_76.jpg[/img]
The Jalapeno plant which was barely holding on is doing well...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_77.jpg[/img]
This pepper plant seems a bit lost...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_78.jpg[/img]
The store bought bell pepper seeds I dried and planted are sprouting - will transplant a few to pots and dump the rest.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_79.jpg[/img]
The towel I had taped in place to minimize light pouring into our office looked a bit tacky so I made a trip to Michael's for some poster board and magnetic tape. Along with some weather stripping and rubber feet, I made a cleaner cover.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_81.jpg[/img]
Looking forward to harvesting seeds this year as well.
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Some of my peppers have been really growing while a few others have not been doing much. Not sure what those doing well and those doing poorly have in common.oldschoolvdub wrote:my basil is doing really good also, but for some reason all my peppers don't really seem to be growing much at all. Not sure why, but they look healthy otherwise
With warm weather here for at least a week, I decided to move a few pepper and basil plants into our beds on the side of our house. Root systems certainly look like they're ready for the soil...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_84.jpg[/img]
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Thanks for the kinds words. If one person goes out and gives this a whirl after reading this thread then I'm happy.
I placed my cucumber starts into our garden too soon, on 4/28, and some heavy rain / cool weather got the best of three of the four...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_86.jpg[/img]
I went ahead and put another set of seedlings together last weekend. Will wait until these push out their second set of true leaves before placing into our garden. By then the warmer weather should be upon us.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_91.jpg[/img]
The basil seed groups I planted are doing well. A little more height and these will head to our garden. Ran out of pots so I used some party cups, cut to height with drainage slits cut into the bottom(used a pair of scissors to nip a few cuts on the bottom edge of the cup). Some more basil starters are off to the right covered in saran wrap. I used a rubber band to keep the saran wrap in place this time vs just draping over. Will check them tonight for sprouts.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_90.jpg[/img]
Cilantro... even at this size, the small leaves, when crushed, put off a very potent/fresh scent. Looking forward to using this fresh out of the garden this summer.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_88.jpg[/img]
Carrots...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_89.jpg[/img]
Lettuce mix... I need to plant another row of this in a few weeks so once this one is done, we'll have a second row to consume from. Very nice to be able to go out and pick lettuce for dinner salads at night.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_87.jpg[/img]
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I placed my cucumber starts into our garden too soon, on 4/28, and some heavy rain / cool weather got the best of three of the four...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_86.jpg[/img]
I went ahead and put another set of seedlings together last weekend. Will wait until these push out their second set of true leaves before placing into our garden. By then the warmer weather should be upon us.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_91.jpg[/img]
The basil seed groups I planted are doing well. A little more height and these will head to our garden. Ran out of pots so I used some party cups, cut to height with drainage slits cut into the bottom(used a pair of scissors to nip a few cuts on the bottom edge of the cup). Some more basil starters are off to the right covered in saran wrap. I used a rubber band to keep the saran wrap in place this time vs just draping over. Will check them tonight for sprouts.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_90.jpg[/img]
Cilantro... even at this size, the small leaves, when crushed, put off a very potent/fresh scent. Looking forward to using this fresh out of the garden this summer.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_88.jpg[/img]
Carrots...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_89.jpg[/img]
Lettuce mix... I need to plant another row of this in a few weeks so once this one is done, we'll have a second row to consume from. Very nice to be able to go out and pick lettuce for dinner salads at night.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_87.jpg[/img]
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48-hours later - my new batch of basil seeds have sprouted.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_92.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_93.jpg[/img]
I removed the rubber banded saran wrap, put a toothpick in the middle of each pot and loosely draped saran wrap over them. Will leave them like this for two days for the sprouts to develop more but also to let air in so mold doesn't form. Nice to be able to reproduce results.
I don't need these for our garden but wanted to verify my method. These will be given away to friends/family.
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[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_92.jpg[/img]
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_93.jpg[/img]
I removed the rubber banded saran wrap, put a toothpick in the middle of each pot and loosely draped saran wrap over them. Will leave them like this for two days for the sprouts to develop more but also to let air in so mold doesn't form. Nice to be able to reproduce results.
I don't need these for our garden but wanted to verify my method. These will be given away to friends/family.
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Things are coming along nicely for the most part.
The starters we started from seed, which have gone into the ground, are doing well.
Sweet Basil...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_94.jpg[/img]
Sweet Pepper...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_95.jpg[/img]
Roma Tomato...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_96.jpg[/img]
Roma Tomato...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_97.jpg[/img]
The above tomatoes I started from seed are almost as large as the starters I put in the ground around when I started these
from seed.
Genovese basil...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_98.jpg[/img]
Jalapeno pepper (I think - need to tag my stuff better next year)...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_99.jpg[/img]
Leftover potted seedlings I am keeping. Going to either use or give away..
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_101.jpg[/img]
I rooted a few cuttings of rosemary from a new plant I bought to replace our old one(took two weeks in water) - above pic.
My old plant grew large and very woody. I trimmed it back a bit too much and it died. In the future, when my plant gets
too large, I'll root a few cuttings to then just yank out the whole plant to replace with the small rooted cuttings to
start over.
A volunteer tomato plant... guessing from the kitchen scraps we tossed in the beds over the winter?
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_102.jpg[/img]
Cilantro - going to let some go to seed to keep this little plot going and to save seeds for next year.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_103.jpg[/img]
Italian Parsley starter is doing well...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_104.jpg[/img]
Lettuce mix almost ready to provide a few dinner salads a week. Need to plant another row soon.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_105.jpg[/img]
Sugar snap peas / Walla Walla Onions / Lettuce mix / Carrots...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_106.jpg[/img]
Our raspberries are doing well as well. Lots of berries on the way!
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_100.jpg[/img]
Spinach has come in unevenly - not sure what the culprit is here...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_107.jpg[/img]
Pole beans seemed to have been munched on by something - not doing well...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_108.jpg[/img]
Green onions are coming in slowly...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_109.jpg[/img]
Baby reds are doing well. They've pushed up through ~12 inches of soil so far. Will be time to stack more soil on them here shortly. Hopefully get about 2 foot total soil on top of them before we stop stacking it on.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_110.jpg[/img]
Going to put in some strawberry plants tonight.
Appreciate any input on the above plants having issues.
somegeek
The starters we started from seed, which have gone into the ground, are doing well.
Sweet Basil...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_94.jpg[/img]
Sweet Pepper...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_95.jpg[/img]
Roma Tomato...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_96.jpg[/img]
Roma Tomato...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_97.jpg[/img]
The above tomatoes I started from seed are almost as large as the starters I put in the ground around when I started these
from seed.
Genovese basil...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_98.jpg[/img]
Jalapeno pepper (I think - need to tag my stuff better next year)...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_99.jpg[/img]
Leftover potted seedlings I am keeping. Going to either use or give away..
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_101.jpg[/img]
I rooted a few cuttings of rosemary from a new plant I bought to replace our old one(took two weeks in water) - above pic.
My old plant grew large and very woody. I trimmed it back a bit too much and it died. In the future, when my plant gets
too large, I'll root a few cuttings to then just yank out the whole plant to replace with the small rooted cuttings to
start over.
A volunteer tomato plant... guessing from the kitchen scraps we tossed in the beds over the winter?
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_102.jpg[/img]
Cilantro - going to let some go to seed to keep this little plot going and to save seeds for next year.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_103.jpg[/img]
Italian Parsley starter is doing well...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_104.jpg[/img]
Lettuce mix almost ready to provide a few dinner salads a week. Need to plant another row soon.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_105.jpg[/img]
Sugar snap peas / Walla Walla Onions / Lettuce mix / Carrots...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_106.jpg[/img]
Our raspberries are doing well as well. Lots of berries on the way!
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_100.jpg[/img]
Spinach has come in unevenly - not sure what the culprit is here...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_107.jpg[/img]
Pole beans seemed to have been munched on by something - not doing well...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_108.jpg[/img]
Green onions are coming in slowly...
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_109.jpg[/img]
Baby reds are doing well. They've pushed up through ~12 inches of soil so far. Will be time to stack more soil on them here shortly. Hopefully get about 2 foot total soil on top of them before we stop stacking it on.
[img]https://somegeek.home.comcast.net/somegeek_seedling_110.jpg[/img]
Going to put in some strawberry plants tonight.
Appreciate any input on the above plants having issues.
somegeek