I Hate Ants!

[Toil]

I just looked up terro.

it's boric acid, just with an inflated price. way inflated! you can get a lifetime supply from the hardware store, you just have to mix your own bait.

[applestar]

What if we mixed the cornmeal, and powdered sugar with the baking soda, and maybe a touch of cinnamon, with peppermint oil to hold it on an index card

Why don't you just bake them some cornmeal bread? Well, the pepperming oil doesn't fit, but the ingredients are pretty close!

Even the neighbor's boy who lives in a spotless house said they're having ant invasion in the house. I guess it's the time of the year.

[Ozark Lady]

But what makes the cornmeal and baking soda work is moisture, and if it is bread, it has already reacted, so then it wouldn't work. The cornmeal wouldn't swell again, and the baking soda wouldn't cause a burp.

I tried mixing boric acid with corn syrup, the ants won't eat it! But, I may try a bit in the mix above with the powdered sugar, cornmeal, cinnamon, and baking soda. Oops I think leave the cinnamon and oil out, wasn't it to keep them away?

I know, I talked to a pesticide company and they have issues in brand new, really fancy houses. I am not alone in fighting these critters.
But, not everyone has trays of seedlings, that have ant nests in the bottom of the tray! I am happy to report, the terro did get rid of the nests in the trays!

[The Helpful Gardener]

Maybe, but you soon wouldn't have anything else growing in the yard...

Friends don't let friends plant mint in the ground. It's wildly invasive and chokes out EVERYTHING else...

HG

[Ozark Lady]

My son was moving some tin, it was up on a trailer, just outside the garden fence, and under the tin was ant nests, and in the middle of the ant nests were 6-8 ringneck snakes!

I think they were dining on the ant nests. I love ringneck snakes, but don't want to touch one. So, no, I won't invite the snakes into the house to get the ants, but they are very welcome in my garden.

When I looked up ringneck snakes it says they eat worms and soft insects, doesn't mention ants, but why would so many ringnecks be in the middle of an ant nest if it wasn't a banquet? Snake of the year award?

[kgall]

I have a 20x26 garden and I went out there today and it looked more like an ant farm than a garden! It's just horrible! I don't have many plants up yet but there are some aphids already on the radishes and lettuce! Ugh!
I could handle having some ants in the garden but it's a little ridiculous! And I have this incredible need to get rid of some of them anyway. I even found this huge red fuzzy and...ick! I killed him manually. They are all sizes shapes and colors!
So what do you think would work on this scale?
I have a toddler who thinks my garden is his sandbox! (I'm keeping him! )

[The Helpful Gardener]

Ants like depleted soils so I don't have much trouble with them in my organic garden; the extra humus in the soil keeps it moist and they hate that...

Aphids excrete a sugary honeydew that can attract ants; some species even farm the aphids like cows! Getting rid of the former may help get rid of the latter; try neem oil as a cheap and easy way to get rid of aphids...

HG

[kgall]

There aren't many aphids...And I added lots of compost and organic stuff in there. When you scratch the surface with a finger it is moist. We'll see.
I don't know how I feel about putting neem on lettuce leaves.

[Kisal]

I have also heard that ants won't cross lines of white flour, white sugar, or orange peels, not sure it is so. And not so sure that I want those on my window sills to keep ants out either.

IMO, the ants would be drawn to those substances. What does work, though, is ordinary white chalk. (Actually, any color would work, but colored chalk often leaves stains.) My grandmother used to draw a chalk line around every window and along every exterior door sill in our house every spring. We had ants all over the place outdoors, but nary a one inside the house. (I used to laugh at her chalk lines, but I was a smart-alecky brat of a kid. )

The trick is that the line can't have any breaks in it, and it has to be wider than the ant is long. The reason it works is that they breathe through openings on their abdomen. Any kind of fine, dusty stuff can clog the openings and suffocate them.

So, in desperation, I used chalk myself one year, after Terro, Grant's, and my usual borax mixture didn't have any effect on the invaders. I used French White chalk, which I found in my dog grooming kit ... left over from my Koms. It's softer than blackboard chalk, and was easier for me to put down in a wide, unbroken line. It worked. I found that the ants were entering through a foundation vent under my kitchen window, crawling up through the wall, and exiting onto my kitchen counter from behind a piece of moulding. I drew the chalk line all around the foundation vent. No more ants! I was amazed!

[The Helpful Gardener]

Wow Kisal, I hadn't heard that one yet, but it does make sense...

Excellent!

HG

[Ozark Lady]

Builders often have a chalk box, of loose blue chalk, I wonder if that would work? It is already powdered.

[cherlynn]

Just loving this ant talk! Generally, if the ants aren't biting anyone or harming our home(carpenter ants) I would just let them be. I have found cinnamon to work well in these cases. I just put it near any openings that the ants come through into the house...no more ants...unless, of course, someone chooses to clean up the cinnamon

No problems in the veggie garden....and now, thanks to Scott, I know why!!! My soil is nice and moist and not depleted.

However, we may be having ant problems of a different nature soon. We'll be moving to Florida......depleted soils....with fire ants!!! We're planning to do raised beds, but I'll be doing some research...and trying some of the methods mentioned in this thread!!! I hear that they are difficult to get rid of. We didn't see any on our property....yet!!! However, our relatives have them....OUCH!!!!....the bites itched for weeks!!!

I had some miserable little itchy ants once in my flower garden. I used corn meal, cinnamon and cayenne pepper.....I never did figure out which of the three worked If I use cornmeal in the future it will be organic...no GMO's!

[applestar]

Oh Cherlynn, you'll have to leave your sunflower house!
... but then, maybe you can grow even BIGGER sunflowers in Florida.

Good luck! We want a FULL REPORT on how you transform the new garden into your own.

[The Helpful Gardener]

We'll sure miss you at the Garden Club, Cheryl, but now you can garden YEAR ROUND!

And fingers crossed, no ants...

HG

[rainbowgardener]

The chalk should work or any other powdery substance that clogs up their spiracles.... baby powder, Comet type cleanser powder, the flour, etc.