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Green Tea Bonsai?
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:54 pm
by maveriiick
I recently picked up a small tree that consists of a tuft of small leaves that look like chinese elm leaves and has long roots that support the tuft of leaves above the soil. The bonsai nursery owner told me that it was a green tea tree and about 2 years old. I searched the net and could not find any info. Can anyone identify it? The nursery owner said it was not a camellia.
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:33 am
by maveriiick
Yes, I've looked up everything I can think off on Google. The leaves are all small (~5 mm size) and is a tropical tree that has a predominant feature of long roots above ground. The Nursery owner did not know the species name and would only say that it was a green tea shrub. I'm curious to see if anyone can figure this one out. Looks like a tough one to ID.
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:29 pm
by maveriiick
Clearer Pics.
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:09 pm
by maveriiick
Bump
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:32 pm
by Victrinia Ridgeway
It's chinese elm... The leaf and the growth habit do not lie... The grower on the other hand....... *tounge in cheek*
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:57 pm
by maveriiick
Victrinia Ridgeway wrote:It's chinese elm... The leaf and the growth habit do not lie... The grower on the other hand....... *tounge in cheek*
That is what I thought. The nursery owner was adamant that these where not CE. However, these trees do not grow more than 4 inches in height and all of them have exposed roots. They are also tropical and therefore have no dormancy requirement like CE. They also get very small flowers about 1-2 mm in size that appear to be white. I'll attach pictures of the flowers later.
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:03 pm
by FLBonsai
maveriiick wrote:Victrinia Ridgeway wrote:It's chinese elm... The leaf and the growth habit do not lie... The grower on the other hand....... *tounge in cheek*
That is what I thought. The nursery owner was adamant that these where not CE. However, these trees do not grow more than 4 inches in height and all of them have exposed roots. They are also tropical and therefore have no dormancy requirement like CE. They also get very small flowers about 1-2 mm in size that appear to be white. I'll attach pictures of the flowers later.
Fyi: Here in Florida my Chinese elm, Florida maple and live oak do not have a dormancy requirement when cared for in a certain way. Many northern tree species can be grown in a tropical setting with proper care and will not recede into dormancy.
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:09 pm
by maveriiick
FLBonsai wrote:maveriiick wrote:Victrinia Ridgeway wrote:It's chinese elm... The leaf and the growth habit do not lie... The grower on the other hand....... *tounge in cheek*
That is what I thought. The nursery owner was adamant that these where not CE. However, these trees do not grow more than 4 inches in height and all of them have exposed roots. They are also tropical and therefore have no dormancy requirement like CE. They also get very small flowers about 1-2 mm in size that appear to be white. I'll attach pictures of the flowers later.
Fyi: Here in Florida my Chinese elm, Florida maple and live oak do not have a dormancy requirement when cared for in a certain way. Many northern tree species can be grown in a tropical setting with proper care and will not recede into dormancy.
OK, but does your chinese elm put out very small white flowers?
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:13 pm
by FLBonsai
maveriiick wrote:FLBonsai wrote:
Fyi: Here in Florida my Chinese elm, Florida maple and live oak do not have a dormancy requirement when cared for in a certain way. Many northern tree species can be grown in a tropical setting with proper care and will not recede into dormancy.
OK, but does your chinese elm put out very small white flowers?
Trick question? I'm not aware of a chinese elm that flowers with small white flowers... I haven't seen any on mine yet, but I also don't have any that are over a year or two hehe.
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:20 pm
by maveriiick
FLBonsai wrote:maveriiick wrote:FLBonsai wrote:
Fyi: Here in Florida my Chinese elm, Florida maple and live oak do not have a dormancy requirement when cared for in a certain way. Many northern tree species can be grown in a tropical setting with proper care and will not recede into dormancy.
OK, but does your chinese elm put out very small white flowers?
Trick question? I'm not aware of a chinese elm that flowers with small white flowers... I haven't seen any on mine yet, but I also don't have any that are over a year or two hehe.
Thats the rub! This is not a CE. Its some tropical shrub from Southern Asia.
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:24 pm
by FLBonsai
maveriiick wrote:
Thats the rub! This is not a CE. Its some tropical shrub from Southern Asia.
I believe it is a CE or very close cousin. I know of several different plants in the same species that have totally identical foliage and trunk formation with vastly different flowers.
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:41 pm
by maveriiick
FLBonsai wrote:maveriiick wrote:
Thats the rub! This is not a CE. Its some tropical shrub from Southern Asia.
I believe it is a CE or very close cousin. I know of several different plants in the same species that have totally identical foliage and trunk formation with vastly different flowers.
Awesome, let me know what the taxonomic name is when you know.
Thanx
Pictures of Flowers
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:35 pm
by maveriiick
Pics of flowers
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:49 pm
by caudiciformken
I am not thinking your small "Green Tea", could be a "small leaf" grewia.
Have you found the species yet?
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:08 pm
by bonsaiboy
caudiciformken,
You realize that this post is over two years old?
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:56 am
by JustinBoi
Lol. wow.
(Even though its 2 years old)
I don't believe it to be a CE. Maybe something else?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:00 pm
by caudiciformken
My how time flies! I originally replied 2 yrs ago, and was just checking if anyone identified yet. lol
I know the shop it was purchased at, and they mentioned they are getting more extremely "small leaf grewia", in this spring (2011).
I will pick one up, and compare.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:39 pm
by manofthetrees
if anyone still cares after all this time... I believe its erodium it's a type of mountain geranium that are used primarily for mame and bottle cap bonsai
Case solved after many years
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:08 pm
by caudiciformken
I know, I know. The question is 2-3 yrs old. lol
The bonsai is "Grewia picsatorum".
Case solved!
Re: Case solved after many years
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:25 pm
by caudiciformken
caudiciformken wrote:I know, I know. The question is 2-3 yrs old. lol
The bonsai is "Grewia piscatorum".
Case solved!