Does anyone have a purchase source for compost tea already made. I would like to try this stuff before I invest in equipment to make my own.
Thanks in advance,
Why would a gardener want to skip the aerated bucket?soil wrote:if you want to make some GOOD ACT ( aerated compost tea ) then skip the bucket and the tiny air pump.
sometimes there are local people who sell ACT, if you do purchase ACT from someone. demand to see microbial counts and proof of life. some people are mean and sell just muddy brown water.
what i meant was that most of the instructions on building a compost tea brewer out there are built without knowledge of what goes on in the dirty soup we call compost tea. putting a tiny 5$ airpump in a 5 gallon bucket will keep a bunch of fish alive, but not billions of oxygen consuming micro organisms, in the end it wont give you all the proper soil food web organisms to get the benefits most people tout with ACT. youll just end up with what somet call muddy brown water.Why would a gardener want to skip the aerated bucket?
I see no benefit to processing ACT on a commercial scale unless you need large quantities (such as for use on your lawn), or you're trying to sell it to others.
I believe that's the point I'm trying to make ... I don't think it needs to be complicated at all. And I don't think any home gardener should be discouraged from making their own Aerated Compost Tea. My opinion is that the "right equipment" for the home gardener is very simple and basic (as I listed above).rainbowgardener wrote:I haven't gotten in to making compost tea, because for my keep it simple gardening style it feels a bit complicated - having all the right equipment, setting it all up, timing it, cleaning and sterilizing all the equipment.
soil posted this in the long AACT sticky:soil wrote:well said odd duck.
if your going to do it, do it right. otherwise just toss some compost in a bucket of water. stir for a few minutes and apply that, compost and all.
yea there is nothing wrong with that, it works and when i am too lazy to make up some ACT that's what i do. although a good ACT brewer will make your compost go a lot further( 100's of times further), you will have all the soil food web microbes in great numbers, and your plants will benefit a lot more.My compost infusion is only a little different from what you said about tossing some compost in a bucket of water. I'm happy with that, quick easy, no fuss, no equipment and it at least makes your compost stretch a lot farther and hopefully starts the process of breeding some micro-organisms, which process can continue in the soil.
I am assuming that if the air stone clogs quickly, that means you're putting the compost "uncontained" in the bucket.(?)Odd Duck wrote:... When making aerated tea, the airstone clogs pretty quickly which reduces the amount of air produced and wears out your pump quicker. Proper cleaning will help it last longer, but they should still be replaced after only a few batches. The stones are cheap enough it's not worth using them after only a few batches. ...
I don't use a bag because that would be something else to have to clean. The air stone (and rock I use to weight it down) are very easy to soak in just a little bit of peroxide in a paper cup that I then put in the worm bin, and I just wipe down my rinsed bucket and airline with peroxide, too.farmerlon wrote:I am assuming that if the air stone clogs quickly, that means you're putting the compost "uncontained" in the bucket.(?)Odd Duck wrote:... When making aerated tea, the airstone clogs pretty quickly which reduces the amount of air produced and wears out your pump quicker. Proper cleaning will help it last longer, but they should still be replaced after only a few batches. The stones are cheap enough it's not worth using them after only a few batches. ...
I put the compost in a pillowcase, and then suspend that in the bucket of water. I don't have any problems with the air stone getting clogged, and I don't have to strain the compost tea before putting it in my watering can.
I don't meticulously sterilize between every batch, but I do take precautions against building up more and more potential pathogens. If I'm running one batch right after another, I do a thorough rinse between, but disinfect on every other batch or every 4 days if I'm running shorter (24 hour instead of 48 hour) batches. Neither my husband, myself or anyone I'm giving produce to, have immune issues or I would disinfect between each batch. The reason I go up to 4 days is because it takes around 72 hours or more for most anaerobes to reach high enough numbers in culture media to identify.toxcrusadr wrote:I'm guessing that people who sterilize their compost bucket tend to be home-brewers of beer and wine. A process that does require meticulous sterilization so as not to ruin the brew. Compost is full of all those microbes and will totally overwhelm anything clinging microscopically to surfaces. To me this is like sterlizing the toilet, not because you're going to eat off it, but just in case it would contaminate the next batch of poo.
Hydrogen peroxide H2O2 is an alternative source of oxygen. Many aerobic microbes produce an enzyme that breaks peroxides down into oxygen and water. That's what the bubbles are. Hydrogen peroxide kills most anaerobic bacteria while preserving the aerobes.toxcrusadr wrote:Do you know what the hydrogen peroxide is for? It seems like it would kill a lot of microbes straight away, at least for a minute until it is exhausted.