Does this dog look part Pit Bull?

[stella1751]

Is this a [url=https://www.petharbor.com/detail.asp?ID=A067987&LOCATION=CSPR&searchtype=ALL&friends=1&samaritans=1&nosuccess=0&rows=10&imght=120&imgres=thumb&view=sysadm.v_animal_short&fontface=arial&fontsize=10&zip=82601&miles=10&shelterlist='cspr'&atype=&where=type_DOG]pit bull mix[/url]?

I see bull dog mix. What does anyone else think? She reminds me of my sweet Dempsey; that's all.

[stella1751]

There's something about her mouth with which I am unfamiliar. Maybe boxer is right. Otherwise, her head is very bull doggy, and her body either bull dog or pit. I like the way she flattens her ears; it's very expressive. Dempsey used to communicate complete sentences, just with his ears. His ears looked like that when he was confused or ashamed.

Does it look like they have her on the pole?

[gumbo2176]

I had pits for many years and that dog looks to have a good bit of pit in it. If you decide to get it, the good thing is the destructive year or so is likely behind it. All the pits I had did their best to get thrown out my yard/house by eating everything in sight between 6 and 18 months of age. Once they matured, they were some of the best dogs I've ever owned.

I still have friends offering me pups, but at my age, I'm just not that inclined to want to take care of a dog that requires a lot of exercise like the Pit Bull loves.

[stella1751]

I'm casually looking for either mixed breed bull dog, pit bull, or boxer, listed in the order of desire. I'm not ready to adopt yet, but I check the site once or twice a month. This is only the second time since Dempsey died that I found one like him. The last time, months ago, I was still too raw to even consider adopting.

I worry that the first one got put down. This shelter keeps its population awfully static for a kill shelter. I just put in a tentative application, telling them I would be interested only if she makes the "list" and if Zeke, my 14-year-old Catahoula mix, approves her.

I'm still not ready, but I would hate for her to die. Doesn't she look kind of sweet?

Those of you who are not offended by the paranormal, I dreamed of Demsey the other night. He was alive. I was shocked to see him, but I quickly accepted he had come back to life. Then, as the dream progressed, he started to die again. At the end of the dream, I was cradling the puppy Dempsey in my arms as he breathed his last.

So, I checked the site this morning. It probably won't come to anything, but I'd sure like to know what breed contributed that rather plain mouth shape.

[applestar]

It's so sad that these poor dogs are stuck with lousy owners who can't live up to their responsibility.

@stella -- that's so sweet that Dempsey came to visit, even if the dream was sad.

[cynthia_h]

Is this a [url=https://www.petharbor.com/detail.asp?ID=A067987&LOCATION=CSPR&searchtype=ALL&friends=1&samaritans=1&nosuccess=0&rows=10&imght=120&imgres=thumb&view=sysadm.v_animal_short&fontface=arial&fontsize=10&zip=82601&miles=10&shelterlist='cspr'&atype=&where=type_DOG]pit bull mix[/url]?

I see bull dog mix. What does anyone else think? She reminds me of my sweet Dempsey; that's all.

All I can say is, she *might* be. Lots of shelters have no clue about Pit Bull Terriers or AmStaffs, and just say that any dog who's a Boxer/PBT/AmStaff mix is a "Pit Bull mix." Bleah. I say she looks like a sweet doggie (her expression) and go visit her if possible and see how she likes you. ::fingers crossed::

Cynthia H.
Sunset Zone 17, USDA Zone 9

[stella1751]

If I go see the dog, I will adopt the dog, and I'm really not ready. I would go look at her if I were truly ready. I don't want her to die, though, and might adopt her if that is the case. However, as long as Zeke is alive, I can't justify bringing home a dog that may make uncomfortable his last year or two. The arthritis is really getting bad. He's had ACL surgery on both hind legs. Maybe he won't make it through the summer.

True confessions: I made a mistake with Zeke. Fourteen years ago, I adopted an active little puppy from the Cheyenne Animal Shelter. He was listed as a Catahoula mix, but I thought I saw Labrador. When I walked into the puppy room, I saw he had almost outgrown his cage. That meant he was slated for the big kennels, probably within a week. He would have died out there or been euthanized, in that he is a very ordinary black/blue merle dog.

He cocked his head when I entered the room. He was clearly interested in me. I played with him. I brought my old dog in to meet him. She didn't especially like him, but I took him home anyway.

I think I got a terrier mix. He is (was) hyperactive. He does what he darn well wants and acts surprised when I tell him he was wrong. Within days, even hours, he does the same thing again and again acts surprised. When I take him to the vet, it's all I can do keep him still for a regular check-up. He doesn't bark, well, once or twice a month, at a squirrel. He's bit the mailman twice. He hides in a dark place and slinks out to do the deed, no announcement. When the weather is good, I see him only at feeding time. He spends his days outside. It's been fourteen long years with this dog.

That mouth on the pit bull mix: Does anyone else see terrier, or is it just me?

[cynthia_h]

If I go see the dog, I will adopt the dog, and I'm really not ready. I would go look at her if I were truly ready. I don't want her to die, though, and might adopt her if that is the case. However, as long as Zeke is alive, I can't justify bringing home a dog that may make uncomfortable his last year or two. The arthritis is really getting bad. He's had ACL surgery on both hind legs. Maybe he won't make it through the summer.

True confessions: I made a mistake with Zeke. Fourteen years ago, I adopted an active little puppy from the Cheyenne Animal Shelter. He was listed as a Catahoula mix, but I thought I saw Labrador. When I walked into the puppy room, I saw he had almost outgrown his cage. That meant he was slated for the big kennels, probably within a week. He would have died out there or been euthanized, in that he is a very ordinary black/blue merle dog.

He cocked his head when I entered the room. He was clearly interested in me. I played with him. I brought my old dog in to meet him. She didn't especially like him, but I took him home anyway.

I think I got a terrier mix. He is (was) hyperactive. He does what he darn well wants and acts surprised when I tell him he was wrong. Within days, even hours, he does the same thing again and again acts surprised. When I take him to the vet, it's all I can do keep him still for a regular check-up. He doesn't bark, well, once or twice a month, at a squirrel. He's bit the mailman twice. He hides in a dark place and slinks out to do the deed, no announcement. When the weather is good, I see him only at feeding time. He spends his days outside. It's been fourteen long years with this dog.

That mouth on the pit bull mix: Does anyone else see terrier, or is it just me?

I'm looking at the shape of the head, and she still looks like the breed mix I suggested earlier, but I'm less inclined to say Boxer than I was. Boxers often have a narrower skull between the ear sets, and this girl's skull is broad between the ear sets, which helps make her expression soft. (Similar to the effect in larger breeds like Labs and Berners....)

I've seen that mouth expression on Vesta, my own Berner girl. I think it may be a natural dog mouth position regardless of breed.

I know I'm not a lot of help here, but when I had my small pet-sitting biz in the '90s, I worked with the following "non-trainable" (I.e., not interested) breeds: Norwich Terrier, Kerry Blue Terrier, Mini-Schnauzer, Tibetan Spaniel. Pitties weren't as prevalent then as they are now, but one of DH's friends raised AmStaffs, and they were friendly little bowling-ball dogs that would just as soon trip you (like very strong cats) so they could lick you as they would anything else....so I'm just a little prejudiced in favor of those sweet faces and those broad heads.

Cynthia

[gixxerific]

Is this a [url=https://www.petharbor.com/detail.asp?ID=A067987&LOCATION=CSPR&searchtype=ALL&friends=1&samaritans=1&nosuccess=0&rows=10&imght=120&imgres=thumb&view=sysadm.v_animal_short&fontface=arial&fontsize=10&zip=82601&miles=10&shelterlist='cspr'&atype=&where=type_DOG]pit bull mix[/url]?

I see bull dog mix. What does anyone else think? She reminds me of my sweet Dempsey; that's all.

I see Pit Bull mix could be American Bull Dog mix could be lot's of things. But I do see APBT in it. I have owened 3 and have known many more. PM sent of a Pit Bull site I belong too, ask them they are the real experts, a lot of them work with them and other dogs everyday. Keep in mind many dogs are confused as Pit Bulls even labs etc. And most if not all shelters always say "Pit Bull Mix".

Check out this link. There are 25 pics of dogs. Only 1 is an APBT see if you can find it. To be quite honest I did the first time I saw this. I did have to study it for a bit though. But I can see where it would be very hard for most people to see.
https://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html

By the way I don't see any boxer at all in him.

[gumbo2176]

Is this a [url=https://www.petharbor.com/detail.asp?ID=A067987&LOCATION=CSPR&searchtype=ALL&friends=1&samaritans=1&nosuccess=0&rows=10&imght=120&imgres=thumb&view=sysadm.v_animal_short&fontface=arial&fontsize=10&zip=82601&miles=10&shelterlist='cspr'&atype=&where=type_DOG]pit bull mix[/url]?

I see bull dog mix. What does anyone else think? She reminds me of my sweet Dempsey; that's all.

I see Pit Bull mix could be American Bull Dog mix could be lot's of things. But I do see APBT in it. I have owened 3 and have known many more. PM sent of a Pit Bull site I belong too, ask them they are the real experts, a lot of them work with them and other dogs everyday. Keep in mind many dogs are confused as Pit Bulls even labs etc. And most if not all shelters always say "Pit Bull Mix".


Check out this link. There are 25 pics of dogs. Only 1 is an APBT see if you can find it. To be quite honest I did the first time I saw this. I did have to study it for a bit though. But I can see where it would be very hard for most people (bobberman) to see.
https://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html
By the way I don't see any boxer at all in him.

Got it the first click. I raised them for many years and have had a lot of fun with that breed. The last one I had was a red nose out of Hemphill stock. I had to put her down on Easter Sunday about 10 years ago at age 8 because she had stomach cancer. I sure miss that dog, but not enough to get another one at this point in time

[stella1751]

Fun website, Gix! I got it on the sixth try. Unfair, though. They had him facing sideways, and I was looking for the characteristic triangular head!

Thanks for all the help, guys. She's definitely of the variety I am seeking, something that will be loyal and steadfast and honest. I want a dog that is aware of what I want and maybe even likes me a little, beyond the contents of the food dish. Dempsey couldn't stay outside too long during the day without running in to make sure I was okay. Most of the time, he was at my feet, hating the thought of even a minute spent away from me. (Unlike some dogs I could name.)

BTW, Cynthia, this is exactly what I mean about Zeke: "I know I'm not a lot of help here, but when I had my small pet-sitting biz in the '90s, I worked with the following "non-trainable" (I.e., not interested) breeds: Norwich Terrier, Kerry Blue Terrier, Mini-Schnauzer, Tibetan Spaniel." When I worked at the shelter, these were the types (and Jack Russell) that were just looking for a free ride, someone to pay their bills while they did their own thing. That's what I see in Zeke. He doesn't look terrier, but he sure acts it!

Now it is in the hands of the fates. If she is slated for the kill, I will get her. If not, well, I will just wait until Zeke is gone.

[DoubleDogFarm]

Stella,

I was looking at Labradors on a local web site and came across Peter "a Boxer" Similar coloring and pinned back ears. You will need to scroll down.

[url=https://www.skagithumane.com/doglist.html]Check this out[/url]

Eric

[stella1751]

You are absolutely right! So she could be any of the three breeds I am seeking. You want to hear stupid? I kept stopping to take a closer look at the terrier puppies. Gosh, they are cute!

[cynthia_h]

I kept stopping to take a closer look at the terrier puppies. Gosh, they are cute!

I am absolutely convinced that this is how most terriers get a home in the first place. Once they're in the home, the vast majority of people are too decent to give the dog away, even though it won't Sit, Down, Stay, Come, Potty OUTSIDE!, Leave It! or other essential behaviors. Remember: terriers have been bred/genetically selected for centuries to have unmitigated DRIVE to dig for prey animals: rats, badgers, shrews, and other burrowing animals. The DIG! KILL! instinct leaves very little in their terrier brains for listening to people and what people want.

Do NOT look at the puppies. Think about DIG! KILL! when they grow up.

Cynthia

[stella1751]

Zeke was the cutest puppy. He had that old head-cocked, ears-perked, take-me-home posture down to an art. It wasn't until I'd had him about a week, after he'd given my neighbor a bloody nose by rapidly spiraling upwards toward her and after I'd received my eighth or ninth underarm nip (ouch!), that I realized he was determined beyond my meager training capabilities. He did not listen. He didn't even have the grace to look abashed.

He had been on his second or third return to the shelter when I adopted him. The last people had returned him because he was "not good with kids." I knew what would happen if I took him back to the kill shelter. His life was literally in my hands. I had to keep him.

I reconciled myself to a long life with Zeke by adopting Dempsey two years later. Now Dempsey's gone, and it's just me 'n Zeke again. He doesn't know he isn't greatly loved. I tell him every day how attractive he is. When he comes when I call, which is about 50% of the time, I tell him how wonderful he is, and he twirls rapidly on the floor, arthritis and all.

All the time, though, I'm thinking, "Senator, you are no Jack Dempsey."

He is content. He has had a good life. Most importantly, he has had a life. I cannot make the same mistake again

[cynthia_h]

Yup. And *this* is the core of why I personally will not adopt a Pit or any other dog that is a terrier or terrier X. I have no interest in training a dog with a "hard" edge. Berners and Berner X's are "soft" dogs, and there are a few other breeds that are "soft."

I came to dogs later in life (was cats-only until then) and they've helped me with the incredible pain of doctor-neglected situations as well as the overwhelming feelings of "this pain will be with me until I die, and there is no doctor willing to help." It only took 12 years to find one....doctor, that is.

So I'm completely NOT interested in using emotional force or strength to train a dog upon whom I need to rely for service-type help. (Also, terriers and terrier X's simply aren't large enough to help me retain balance when my legs betray me, as they still sometimes do, even after both knees have been replaced.)

I've used positive reinforcement training only, and I've rehabbed three rescue dogs, one of them to the point where he earned a carting title from the national breed club. All of my dogs, so far, have been Canine Good Citizens.

So, yes, absolutely: the right dog is crucial. Pitties are sweet; I've seen some who were positive-reinforcement trained. I'm not quite sure why they're called "terriers"; maybe the word just got attached to their name and they never were vermin-catchers? That would be terrific for behavioral/training purposes.

Cynthia

[stella1751]

I never think of the APBT as a terrier. It just doesn't seem to act like my stereotype of a terrier. I see pits more as a bull dog descendent, with that charming, fiercely loyal, honest disposition and quirky sense of humor.

Poor Zeke looks nothing like my notion of a terrier, but he sure acts like my notion of a terrier.

[img]https://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy292/mitbah/Zeke_1.jpg[/img]

There's a perfect home out there for dogs like Zeke, perhaps someone with a dozen hyperactive children. He just got unlucky when I picked his number

[Kisal]

He's almost the spittin' image of my Angus, who is part Black Lab and part some kind of hound. Angus' ears are a bit longer than a purebred Lab's, and his head is smaller. I have to keep his collar a bit tighter than I ordinarily would, to keep him from slipping out of it, because he has the more gracile head of a hound, but the thicker neck of a Lab.

He's a bright, but stubborn dog, but I don't mind. I've trained Komondorok, and they're about as stubborn a dog as you'll find.

[DoubleDogFarm]

If Zeke ever needs a new home, there's an island off the coast of Washington where he's always welcome. Very handsome.


OneDogFarm
Eric

[stella1751]

He's almost the spittin' image of my Angus, who is part Black Lab and part some kind of hound. Angus' ears are a bit longer than a purebred Lab's, and his head is smaller. I have to keep his collar a bit tighter than I ordinarily would, to keep him from slipping out of it, because he has the more gracile head of a hound, but the thicker neck of a Lab.

He's a bright, but stubborn dog, but I don't mind. I've trained Komondorok, and they're about as stubborn a dog as you'll find.

I adopted him because I thought he was a Lab mix. You can't go wrong with a Lab mix, right? I don't know what he's got in him that makes him be the way he is, but I am determined not to make the same mistake again. I'm not a dog trainer. It should be enough that I speak sharply to them to make them stop wrong behavior. Speaking sharply to Zeke merely elicits perked ears and a steadfast desire to do the same thing later.

Eric, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. One time, when I took Zeke and Dempsey in for their annual checkup, there was a substitute vet. My regular vet was on vacation. She said, "Okay. Which one do we do first?" I said, "We always start with the good looking one," meaning, of course, my handsome Dempsey. She nodded and grabbed Zeke's leash.

Demspey and I just stared at each other in stupefaction

[gixxerific]

Cynthia ask any APBT owner and they will tell you they are the smartest easiest to train dong on the planet. Even armed forces and law enforcement are moving to them over Rotts and Dobies for drug/bomb sniffing and whatever else. DO any of you know Sgt. Stubby one of the most famous Armed forces dogs ever from WWI. Some of the best service dogs around even in librarys for kids.

I don't see any boxer in Peter from DDF's post. That is just not a Boxer as they call it.


Cynthia one more sorry I couldn't resist. First off I am very sorry for your health problems. You are a good person and that shouldn't happen to good people or anyone for that matter. But you said:

So I'm completely NOT interested in using emotional force or strength to train a dog upon whom I need to rely for service-type help. (Also, terriers and terrier X's simply aren't large enough to help me retain balance when my legs betray me, as they still sometimes do, even after both knees have been replaced.)

3,375 lbs
[img]https://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/11/55/78/46/apbapu11.jpg[/img]
This one is photoshopped but still
[img]https://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c218/Marty2k6/Lilbit/pit_bull_pull1.jpg[/img]

[Green Mantis]

Cynthia, After trying the shepherd mix ( which turned out to be a disaster for us) then the Big guy that was so thin ( now I forgot the breed! )

We FINALLY lucked out. A lady had placed a bernese mountain dog, lab cross on the local kijiji, for $100.00. I enquired, but after having two that didn't work out, I wasn't real enthusiatic, so just decided to leave looking at her.

She was the last pup, out of a big litter of 10, was the runt, that they kept. Her mother was a chocolate lab, father a bernese mountain dog. She was about 6 mos old., Black and white, slightly curly coat like the bernese.

But hubby thought we should wait, so did I actually. The woman that owned her, on the other hand did not!!!! She kept e-mailing me, and finally called.

We decided that we would just look at her, on the way home from Calgary on day.

We met her on a farm road, and she was/is a real sweety.

Her owner said she had so many weird people enquire that she would give her to us, just so she had a good home. Well the dog knew who she needed to convince apparently, she loved my husband!!

So in the truck she went, and she was a year old nov.2nd 2011.

What a suck!!!! She sleeps in her crate at night, if she needs out in the night, she lets us know, she snores, lol, and makes the weirdest grunting noises at times.

Loves to play with her toys, and brings them back after you throw them. BUT what I couldn't believe, was one night watching t.v., hubby called her up, into the recliner with him, she Loves her tummy to be rubbed, so there they sat for awhile. Now when she thinks she needs a cuddle, she goes over and looks at him, until he says to come up.

She has turned out to be the dog we were looking for and couldn't find!!!

She virtually got pushed off on us, and was the best thing that ever happened. So smart!! Always watching to see what's going on, very good in the house, never destructive, or dirty.

She seriously must think she is a very small dog, as she has made herself fit into one of the dogs beds, that is way too small for her, looks silly, but she loves it.

She lets us know if someone is around, but usually by just a low woof, but if she thinks it's serious, she barks. I have to say that has got to be one of the nicest crosses we have ever encountered.

Finally have the dog we want, and almost had to have her dumped on us, *lol*
Sure glad she was. She has such an original name, Bernie!!! But better than Bernice!!!!!

Talk about a soft mouth, that must have come from the lab? Whatever, we just love her!!! Finally a HAPPY ending for us!!!

[stella1751]

What a great story, Green Mantis. I can remember (I think it was you) telling us about the shepherd debacle a year or so ago. I'm glad you found the perfect one!

[DoubleDogFarm]

Can't go wrong with a Lab - Lab mix. I believe my buddy Jacob was a Lab / Bernese or Lab Newfoundland cross.

Eric

[Nickysflowers]

american stafford shire terrier pitbull- that's the kinda dog I have and she has the same mouth head ears everything even the short build.

[Nickysflowers]

[img]https://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg509/nckysflowers/photo-5.jpg[/img] this is my dog I think the dog in the picture other then the color looks just like him.

[stella1751]

You are right, Nickysflowers! Yet another possibility. You've got an attractive one, by the way!

She's still at the shelter. Dogs come and dogs go, and she remains. I suspect they must find her as appealing as I do. (This is a kill shelter, and she has been there since the day after Christmas.) I never did hear back about my application. I hope they will contact me if they can't find her a great home with active children.

Every now and again, I think I should just go down and visit her, just once. Then reason kicks in. Zeke's arthritis worsens daily. It could be the weather, and it could be the old legs have finally worn out. I really can't bring home an active young dog when he is suffering so much discomfort. The kidneys are probably starting to go, too. He drinks upwards of a gallon of water a day. I think he is beginning his last spring.

Once he's gone, bless his old blue merle heart, then I can begin thinking in earnest, if I am so inclined.

[cynthia_h]

Can't go wrong with a Lab - Lab mix. I believe my buddy Jacob was a Lab / Bernese or Lab Newfoundland cross.

Eric

Eric, I can't believe I didn't register this post when you put it on the board. "my buddy Jacob was"--was? Jacob and Pepper, the Two (Double) Dogs???

You've lost one of the dogs you've been telling us about?! Please, no; but if so, I am so very sad and sorry.

Cynthia H.
Sunset Zone 17, USDA Zone 9

[Nickysflowers]

The best dog I ever had was a lab. My dog I have now I saved him from going to a kill shelter at 2 years old or so I was told we have had him 3 years. Well he's really about 9 or 10 now with allot of problems so I don't know how much longer he will be around. A black lab as a puppy would be the only other kind of dog I would get. They are such smart and protective dogs, excellent around children you couldn't ask for a better dog then a lab ~Nicky~

[DoubleDogFarm]

Can't go wrong with a Lab - Lab mix. I believe my buddy Jacob was a Lab / Bernese or Lab Newfoundland cross.

Eric

Eric, I can't believe I didn't register this post when you put it on the board. "my buddy Jacob was"--was? Jacob and Pepper, the Two (Double) Dogs???

You've lost one of the dogs you've been telling us about?! Please, no; but if so, I am so very sad and sorry.

Cynthia H.
Sunset Zone 17, USDA Zone 9

Thanks Cynthia.
[img]https://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h300/eric_wa/1%20Dogs%20%20Jacob%20and%20Pepper/DSC02911.jpg[/img]
[img]https://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h300/eric_wa/1%20Dogs%20%20Jacob%20and%20Pepper/DSC02921.jpg[/img]
Yes. Jacob disappeared about 12:30 pm Dec. 31. The two dogs disappeared, from a customers home, but only Peppercorn returned the following morning. Most likely Jacob died in the woods. The unknowing is the worst part.

Eric

[Kisal]

Oh, Eric! I'm so very sorry to hear that! Your doggies are like members here! I will miss Jacob very much.

[cynthia_h]

Oh, my God, Eric. You don't even have his body. That is the very worst. The not knowing...for sure...what went wrong.

He was the older of the two? Had he been showing even subtle signs of not being well? (keeping in mind that dogs are excellent at hiding illness, probably as good as cats are, due to the "must avoid showing vulnerability" handed down from Mother Nature).

I'm very sorry to know that you've been dealing with this without our support. Please accept my condolences.

Cynthia

[stella1751]

Eric, my heart goes out to you. That is the worst kind of a loss. The not knowing must make you frantic.

My sister lost a beloved dog in Tacoma. Her collie mix made a break for freedom while my brother was supposedly watching her play on the front lawn. My sister went crazy with wondering and worrying.

Six months later, she got a call from the local kill shelter. They had scanned her microchip and were able to track down my sister. When my sister picked her up, the dog's pads were bloody and her nails worn down to nothing. They figured someone had taken her and kept her in a fenced yard and that the dog had finally managed to dig her way out.

I hope you have a happy ending to your story. Jacob looks like a good one. Someone might have him. At least you can hope

[applestar]

So sorry to hear, Eric.

[DoubleDogFarm]

Stella,

Sorry. I had no intention in taking over your post, but now that it has happened, it's a bit more private. I'm more reluctant when it it comes to personal matters.

Jacob,
13+ years old
Addison's disease. Jacob required a Percorten injection monthly and a daily 10mg tablet of Prednisone.
Thyroid disease. Jacob was also on, twice a day, Thyrosyn 0.8mg.
Jacob was having issues with his back legs but his front legs very strong. He was still able to go up and down the stairs, but was not able to jump into the cab of the truck. Getting out of the truck was no problem. Most of the time he pushed me out, especially if a treat was waiting for him. Our small town is a dog town. Everywhere you go, biscuits for dogs. The bank, hardware store and even some of the diners and dives. Jacob had love handles.

If he died doing something he loved good for him. We should all be so lucky.

Thank you for all the kind thoughts public and private.
Eric

ps. Zeke, you are not second fiddle, remember that!

[stella1751]

Eric, threads assume a life all their own in this forum. This is no longer my thread but Jacob's. Jacob's a handsome dog, showing more of the old Newfoundland type than you generally see these days. I'm using present tense here because I'm wishing for a happy ending to your story.

BTW, Dempsey used to think my bank in Cheyenne was a doggy drive-thru. The minute we pulled in, he joined me in the front seat, leaned across me, and adopted his most winning smile, with just a trace of his "She's a good enough owner, but I haven't had a square meal in days" look. I made pretty good interest in biscuits at that bank!