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Just because, Dog Pictures.

A bit of a rehash. How about posting your dogs here.

Peppercorn,
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Jacob,
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Good looking Labs, Eric. I wish I had a picture of our "Pepper." She was just a year or 2 older than I was but I was an adolescent by the time of her passing. She was kind to a little kid and an awfully good dog. Let's see, if she was still alive, she'd be close to 500 years old . . . in dog years, of course :wink: .

I haven't had a dog in over 20 years but this is my "grandpuppy:"

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The picture was taken last year beside the garden with my cellphone. We were puppy-sitting.

My daughter drops her on her way to work on a few days each week. She has grown a pound, we are told, since the time of this picture. Since she wasn't quite 5 pounds then, it gives you an idea of what a monster she has turned out to be :D .

Garbanzo (or Bonzo), we call her, is a Terripoo. I appreciate her heritage and I've known a good number of terriers. We had a family friend with a whole kennel full of them! And, my brother had a little terrier when I was a kid. They have a special ruggedness.

I won't say anything bad about the Toy Poodle. Let me just say that the "ruggedness" is a good addition. The poodle's desire to please balances out the terrier just fine in Garbanzo.

She is just a little dynamo, outdoors. She gives serious chase to the tree squirrels. The other day, she caught a bird! No baby bird either - the sparrows were fighting and one of them made a very unfortunate mistake . . . :shock: .

When she sleeps, she sleeps. When she plays, she plays. When she wants the toy you are teasing her with, she scrambles, leaps, snarls and tears it to shreds!

She is (nearly) 6 pounds of loyalty to her mistress, love of her family and fun.

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You've got a point, Marlingardener.

A sharp-shinned hawk showed up on a post in my neighbor's raspberry/grape jungle the other day. He was chasing the birds in there.

When I couldn't find Garbanzo for a second, I dang near had a heart attack!

Rationally, a small hawk like that isn't much of a threat but the owls around scare me. The neighbor's dachshund had a trip to the vet's after trying to catch a marmot (20 pound ground hog) and I do NOT want Garbanzo actually catching a tree squirrel!

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If I might just interrupt with a cat story here :wink:

We adopted a couple of barn kittens from a horse farm. Until they were ready to be adopted we saw them many times at the farm, and the kittens had been trained (presumably by their moms) to dive for cover under the shed or in the barn whenever one of the numerous turkey vultures, frequent hawks, or occasional bald eagles flew overhead, when the alarm call was sounded by ever vigilant roaming Guinea hens. They probably had to watch out for owls at night too, without the hens to alert them.

Apparently, they had had enough close calls or experienced the rush of wings as the Guinea chicks and hens were snatched away because after they came home with us, for a while, they tried to take cover every time I turned on the ceiling fan....

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You asked for it. now make sure you are sitting down cause here comes the cuteness!!!!

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And they say American Pit Bull Terriers are mean, you all best never let me hear you say that.

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:D Oh is she ever growing!!! She was so small in that one picture. What a sweetheart! Looks like she really has a lot of energy! Ahhh to be young again. Do enjoy her, she's, :clap: a sweetie.

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The Dogs of My Life

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Diesel - My Great Dane/Lab Mix

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Hayley - My 12 week old Bichon Frise/Cavalier Spaniel Mix

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gixxerific wrote:And they say American Pit Bull Terriers are mean, you all best never let me hear you say that.

:lol: :wink: :wink:
Gix, thought you'd enjoy a story my mailman told me last week when I was apologizing to him for my mutt having bitten him (for the second time). He told me he was delivering mail to a customer with a huge shady porch. As he stepped onto the porch, he woke up a pit bull that was sleeping in the shadows. The dog leaped up. The mailman froze. The dog ran like a bat out of Hades, streaking past him so fast it slammed into a huge porcelain planter, knocking it off the porch and smashing it to smithereens.

You clearly can't judge a dog by its covers.

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We have a 5 year old Chocolate Lab, Hershey, and a 6 month old Jack Russell/Pug/Beagle mix, Peanut. Our lab is a purebred and is fathered by the same father of Bill Clinton's dog Buddy.

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Bam Bam's new rover.

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I'm for dogs. I think we should elect dogs to congress.

DD, we had a black lab. Lost her 10 years back. Those pictures just tug at our heart strings.

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Marlingardener wrote:Indyanna, that is such a handsome dog! It must be a sweetheart, since both Great Danes and Labs are known for their good temperament.

Thanks - Yes a Great Dane/Lab Mix makes a big sweetheart. The most gentle dog I have ever seen. The only problem I have is when it thunderstorms. All 105 pounds of him tries to curl up in my lap :)

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Angus, suffering a hard life of being totally spoiled. He spent the day playing in the pond in the backyard, then climbed into bed beside me when I lay down for a nap. :lol:

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gixxerific I like the 3rd picture down of your dog running in the snow.

If I get another do it most likey will be a lab as they are nice dogs.

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My next dog will be whatever dog in need crosses my path at the right time. I love them all, big small stupid smart placid irritable and affectionate. I have a really soft spot in my heart (and head) for dogs that think they just might be smarter than me.

The only dog over whom I did not have sufficient control was brain damaged from distemper. But she tried so hard to be good when she remembered. Athena, RIP black lab cross.

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Grandpuppy Garbanzo is over visiting today. DW was just out in the yard with her. They have a special relationship. . . This is the same woman who said she wasn't going to have another dog in the house :roll: .

I'm skeer'd to take Bonzo out in the yard without a leash. DW knows Bonzo likes her and plans on following her around leash or no leash. The meter reader just went by. I asked if she was heading out the door so Bonzo could bark at the meter reader. She said no but I think she believes this is cute behavior from a 6 pound dog :roll: :roll: .

DW is turning into one of those typical pet owners . . ! Kind of like the people who think their kids are incredibly special:
"Isn't that cute?"
"The kid's a brat!"
"He's so sweet!"
"The kid is spoiled rotten!"

She thought it was especially wonderful that Bonzo was barking at the neighbor thru the back fence the other day. She hadn't realized that he was over there tending his tomato patch. Poor guy, he gets enuf grief from the coonhound on the other side of him.

I was complaining about the coonhound as we were driving along the other day. "I mean, what would happen if I ran out the door of the house every morning and began yelling as loud as I could (she has a bark collar) and kept it up the entire day? What if I threatened everybody who passes by with tearing their leg off? I'd be locked up by the authorities before sundown!"

We stopped at a little park along the river and when I opened the door the friendliest old border collie mix you could ever hope to meet ran up to the open door to say hello! I was immediately consumed in guilt . . .

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Great looking dogs, all of them, and each with their own lovable personalities.
But those labs! Their sweet, intelligent faces and their loving nature just make me love them. Our Daphne is 15, She is one of 5 labs we have owned and all were(are)wonderful dogs. have a photo of our daughter sitting on our first Lab Domonic's back while the dog was lying down when they both were about 2. Gentle with children, but can sense a "bad guy".

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This is our yellow lab, Bella. She is an amazing dog, I am SO glad we added her to our family.

When we got her last summer:
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Looking for trouble:
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Best buds:
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These are my boys!

This is Jäger, hes about 10 weeks or so in this picture, hes 12 weeks Sunday, my how they grow quickly!!! Pure breed German Shepherd working line. Will be trained in Schutzhund and search and rescue (eventually).

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And this is Kobe, my old man. Siberian Husky wolf hybrid. We rescued him from a local rescue group when he was only about 2. Sweetest old man you ever met, though hes tired of the puppy running around causing all sorts of commotion!

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This is Goofy:

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He's a rescue from a shelter - we don't really know the story - we weren't even told that he has a habit of biting first and asking questions later...
A very german shepherd attitude apparently...

In the picture he's about 4. And he's looking at KONG, not the camera ;)

He loves to kong, piles of blankets and imported swiss cheese.
He's a fear biter, ultra dominant and overprotective = a handful, but at the same time he works really hard at behaving his best...
He acts so good now, people don't believe me he'll bite if they come too close. Until he does the crazy head shake :D

Ah well, it might be a lot of work, but he's worth it :)

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Schutzhund is handler protection training, its started as full protection training, and is actually a competition. Like agility, the dogs and handlers are scored on how they perform. His father is a champion and his grandmother is an international champion. I new nothing about it before we got him, so I am learning with him! Basically its what all police K9's are taught. :)

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I am going to have to force myself to quit looking at all of these photos! I want all of them. Every time I view a new posting I go online to the Casper Metro Animal Control. I still miss Dempsey too much to get another dog. One day, I won't find myself waiting for him to jump into the bed at night or to stomp his foot and pitch a fit because I am late with his dinner. When I can go for a week without thinking about my sweet Dude, I'm gonna get me a fresh one.

I'm a reformed Lab lover. Now, I want anything with Bull Dog in it: Bull dog, Boxer, Pit Bull, Bull Mastiff, Bull Terrier, whatever. Any con-artist with Dempsey's sheepish charm will do the job. (I swear, Stella, I thought you set that pizza out for me. Never, never would I have touched it otherwise. Not in a million years! I am so ashamed. Hey, is that a hot dog you've got there? What you thinking about putting on it? Easy on the mustard, okay?)

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From a few years ago

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Marlingardener, dogs who know they can win a rumble can be hard work :) my arms were bruised for months when we first got goofy (from him biting and me pushing the arm in further to stop him being in control) people must've thought someone was abusing me....
He's put on about 10 kg since, maybe more (you could count his ribs just looking at him), all muscle - if he hadn't learnt not to bite me and to quit tugging on command etc when we were about equal in strength, I don't know if I could have kept him... Pain will not deter him, and food doesn't encourage - that's a shepherd for ya.
But once I had his respect, he was able to let go of the grandstanding, enjoy belly rubs and just be a 'kid'. that's gotta be worth a bit of work :)

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cherishedtiger wrote:Schutzhund is handler protection training, its started as full protection training, and is actually a competition. Like agility, the dogs and handlers are scored on how they perform. His father is a champion and his grandmother is an international champion. I new nothing about it before we got him, so I am learning with him! Basically its what all police K9's are taught. :)
Jäger must be quite the smart puppy then :) for my next one I am thinking I want one not quite so smart and 'bribable' - goofy remembers every single spot we ever played kong, or stick etc and he will try every time to get more play out of it. He also knows exactly what he can get away with. He manipulates my hubby into asking me to do what the dog wants (If he comes to me directly I just say 'no')
The other day he stole a pork schnitzel from the table, leaving one, and me thinking DH ate it, since the dog would surely have eaten both - he got a good laugh out of that one, I'm sure :D (yeah yeah I'm projecting :p)

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Anyone ever hear of [url=https://popartpet.com/]Pop Art Pet[/url]? My wife had one done of my dog for my birthday a while back. We also had one done for my Brother and Sister in Law for their dog who passed this past year. Received with teary eyes.

Nothing an accomplished photo-shopper can't do, but they are still nice to have. Both the one I received and the one we gave were done on 'stretched canvas'.

And speaking of photoshop, this is one I did of [url=https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=5045927981&set=a.5045657981.4696.532032981&type=1&theater]my dog[/url].

The hotlink was linked to my facebook page, this is in case it doesn't show up, not sure if facebook allows hotlinking:
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There are a few other photoshops in that gallery...I imagine you can guess which ones. :)

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I have to hand it to you, :wink: that's a little scary.

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It so happens that he was a rescue who was misrepresented. He ended up being quite a little biter. And not the tolerable type of biter, the type that most people end up putting down because no one else will take them - including the rescue that I got him from (because they would take him...and would then put him down). Once you realize what you've gotten yourself into, it's too late to alter your path if you love your dog as I do. So I kept him and work with him and he wears a muzzle 24/7, except when eating and when he's home alone or in the fenced yard with me. So the photoshop that you are referring to is somewhat of a joke that I sent my wife, but kinda a reality - except he's not taken anyone's hand off...yet. And I know the muzzle sounds extreme, but he's been in it for over a year now and he wears it like any other dog would a collar. Pretty much like it's not even there.

It's a much more engaging story that I can really share without writing an entire novel. I could write 1000's of words about the issues but it probably would be a big waste of everyone's time here. :)

The next big hurdle is the baby that is due in our family in just over 4 weeks from now. Wish us luck...we do have a sanctuary picked out and have been donating for his care as a preemptive measure should the dog baby mix become unmanageable. I love my dog, but I won't let him eat my child. If it does work out, the donations will go to the care of another animal in need.

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Fig, I strongly encourage you in your diligent training! But absolutely keep the baby and dog separated unless the child is in your arms. Then still be vigilant.

If your pup is simply ill-mannered, firmness and continued training will curb his biting. If he was abused or used in dog fights, the problems become far greater because he'll suffer from a dog kind of post traumatic stress. Meaning a clatter of pots and pans may prompt him to attack, or a toddler falling will look like a vulnerable opponent.

In my limited experience, I have successfully retrained a few animals from fearful and/or aggressive behavior. One of them still shook one of my cats while I was at work. Collapsed a lung. Big vet bills. I'd only had them for about a year. Both survived and eventually became allies against all the other furry things in any game. If I heard romping in the middle of the night it would be Cassiopeia and Demeter.

I'm hoping you can convert some of his aggression into protection of the baby and family. Potentially dangerous for anyone else though.

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While I appreciate your input, when I said I had done everything I thought I could, I wasn't really holding back information. Tucker has seen 2 professional behaviorists, the second of which told me to put him down. (However, once she found out I wasn't going to put him down, she immediately sided with me and wanted to prescribe meds for him like doggie prozac). Naturally, this made me hate her and her industry. Tucker has been to classroom training. Tucker has been privately trained with me an a gentleman named George Cockrell who was recommended to me by Martin Deeley. Unfortunately, due to the fact that I have to work to stay alive, I cannot devote every hour of every day to him or else I would. The real breakdown in Tuckers life, I guess, is me since I am not in a position to actually spend that amount of time on him.

Most trainers simply state that the only way he can be properly managed is to bring him to such a high level of discipline that he is always being 'controlled' and has not opportunity to be any other way than mindful. Great in concept, but not possible given the schedule and situation. So, the muzzle was the next best thing. It's the whole loaded gun on the table analogy. If you leave it there, loaded, eventually someone is going to get hurt. By disarming Tucker with the muzzle we can be sure noone will get bitten.

Trust me, we even researched having his teeth blunted and rubber capped. Humane or not, it wouldn't solve his base aggressively reactive nature.

Like I said, he's not outwardly aggressive, he only bites when put into a situation by someone. I think his aggression would be titled 'resource guarding' and I am his resource. The only liberty I cannot take with him myself is the ability to take something from him that he has stolen (tissue, q-tips, etc stolen from the waste bin), however, I can call him away from any of these things easily and then pick them up once he leaves them. Even if we drop a steak on the floor, he will leave it for me (and most often, my wife as well). ;)

And trust me when I say I am aware of everything that can go wrong with a baby... Fingers through the muzzle, tail pulling, pinching.... But, alternatively, you just never know. He may latch onto the new child as a resource and may guard our new boy with his life.

If I were to have to rehome him, which I will resist with all my being until left with no other option, is a solo reclusive person with very infrequent guests who lives in a suburban area with room for him to run. Not easy to find as you might well imagine.

We'll soon know what the case will be.

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Sounds just like goofy was - fine until he had someone to protect or nowhere to run.

He'd probably attack a skateboarder just for the noise, but that's as aggressive as he gets.

For him Loads of exercise and a bit of growing up worked miracles - ok, I had to learn a lot too. Now we've graduated from the muzzle to a 'halti' and he's so well controlled that people don't believe me when I tell them that he will bite - until they come close enough and he does the 'crazy head shake'...

Good luck & lots of patience.

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Fig3825 I am very sorry to hear about your dogs problems. He is a cute one though. Keep up on the training.

I am an avid pit bull lover always have been always will be. My other fav forum is a a pit bull site dedicated to rescue so Please trust me when I say I know about the problems that come with certain dogs. And by "certain" I mean case by case not by breed. I know about dog on dog aggression and even dog on people aggression. Resource guarding which it sounds like your issue is one of the worst. The dog is great one moment than you interfere with it's stuff and all hell breaks loose. It can be untrained though it takes a lot of time, I know you said you have done a lot of work, but sometimes even more is needed. I have seen countless fighting dogs retrained and rehomed that turned out to be just big 'ol sissy's but that is my breeds best quality. They can bounce back from anything. Though some just cant' be "fixed". I'm not saying your dog can't be fixed it just may take even more time.


My main agenda here is to COMMAND you in all that is decent. TO NEVER EVER LEAVE YOUR DOG OR ANY DOG ALONE WITH A BABY HUMAN EVER!!!!!!!! Even for a minute. Please listen to me I am not trying to preach I'm am speaking the truth. Especially a dog with aggressive tendencies. Being on the pit bull forums I see too many times (in the new sections, yeah it's sad but there is a lot of news about them, just something we have to deal with, though it's not all bad I must say) were many different breeds left alone for just a bathroom break have purposely or accidentally killed an infant. This is no joke. I tell this to everyone I know. There is something about baby's that is the worst, dogs see them differently than they do older humans. They may feel threatened by the appearance of a new sibling and want to dominate. That is what dogs do in the wild. It is part of them. I could go on and on but I think you get the message.

They can be smothered, knocked on the floor off a bed, ripped to pieces, toes chewed off etc. I can document such cases if need be.

Sorry if I seem too demanding here but for you baby's sake NEVER leave your dog alone with him/her.

Again sorry for coming off too strong just don't want t read about you in some day in a bad way.

Dono

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Yeah me again. :)

Being muzzled 24/7 is probably not a good thing for your dogs psyche either.

I wish you luck I have had to put down one of my own aggressive dogs before (dog on dog aggression) it was one of the hardest things I have ever done other than having to put down Maya who was dying off cancer and only had another day or two in her.

I miss you Maya so much. :cry: :cry:

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applestar wrote:If I might just interrupt with a cat story here :wink:

We adopted a couple of barn kittens from a horse farm. Until they were ready to be adopted we saw them many times at the farm, and the kittens had been trained (presumably by their moms) to dive for cover under the shed or in the barn whenever one of the numerous turkey vultures, frequent hawks, or occasional bald eagles flew overhead, when the alarm call was sounded by ever vigilant roaming Guinea hens. They probably had to watch out for owls at night too, without the hens to alert them.

Apparently, they had had enough close calls or experienced the rush of wings as the Guinea chicks and hens were snatched away because after they came home with us, for a while, they tried to take cover every time I turned on the ceiling fan....
Nice story applestar I got my 6 month old male feral cat two month ago in the middle of winter, I am glad to say because he and his brother would not stop trying to chase and eat my hens. I caught him in a cat cage but I am very sad and ashamed to say that in a outburst of rage I killed his brother one day when he attacked and killed one of my hens, I didn't won't a cat but considering the circumstances on how I got him I couldn’t give him away to anyone because he was feral, so now he is more domestic than the average domestic house cat but he still hunts the rats and mice(which we had a large infestation before we got the cat) like a feral cat though. also I have two dogs but I will tell you all about them in my next post as it is very late and I am going to bed.

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gixxerific wrote:...My main agenda here is to COMMAND you in all that is decent. TO NEVER EVER LEAVE YOUR DOG OR ANY DOG ALONE WITH A BABY HUMAN EVER!!!!!!!! Even for a minute. Please listen to me I am not trying to preach I'm am speaking the truth...
That is something people with 'nice' dogs ought to be told rather than people whose dogs have 'issues'. Seriously, a friendly lab can hurt someone as bad as any other breed, problem is you don't see it coming.
People who have accepted that their dog can and will be aggressive/dominant/rough have a head start in being prepared. I used to think all dogs are friendly too, then I learned different.

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froggy wrote:
gixxerific wrote:...My main agenda here is to COMMAND you in all that is decent. TO NEVER EVER LEAVE YOUR DOG OR ANY DOG ALONE WITH A BABY HUMAN EVER!!!!!!!! Even for a minute. Please listen to me I am not trying to preach I'm am speaking the truth...
That is something people with 'nice' dogs ought to be told rather than people whose dogs have 'issues'. Seriously, a friendly lab can hurt someone as bad as any other breed, problem is you don't see it coming.
People who have accepted that their dog can and will be aggressive/dominant/rough have a head start in being prepared. I used to think all dogs are friendly too, then I learned different.
Yeah hence the quote: TO NEVER EVER LEAVE YOUR DOG OR ANY DOG ALONE WITH A BABY HUMAN EVER!!!!!!!!

Again dogs see infants differently than adults. Or at least that is the opinion of me and many others. Accidents happen in the blink of an eye, so don't blink your eye's and everything is good. :) Most of the time these things ARE accidents.

Again I'm sorry to say but with my breed even accidents are reacte3d to with "oh what a violent dog, how could you". But with most other breeds in most other cases it is reacted to for the most part as an 'Unfortunate accident"

Again I can bring cases if need be.

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Lazy Good for Nothing bums

What! We are holding the hay down. You don't want it to blow away do ya?
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Nice photos Eric, reminds me of mine and his piles of blankies.

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Erik, each time you post your labs, I try to figure out which one is Peppercorn and which is Jacob. Sometimes I can tell the older muzzle (Jacob) but most times not.

My Pepperoncini turned 17 on July 4th or thereabouts. I would have had to pick her up to get her into the truck bed with the hay and your two. Hips are sometimes painful.

Every day is a blessing with her. Today maybe not so much as she needs a bath for her hotspots, but she'll have some leftover fish for after her dinner so all will be forgiven. Plus her Uncle Phil is coming tonight. (My bro.) I don't have to tell her. Two weeks and she knows to keep looking at the door around dinner time, for a chime she can't hear anymore.

I feel like a bruja at the vets. They whisper as I come in, they tell other pet owners how terrific she is at her age, they tell me I must be doing something right. Other dogs seek her blessings. I translate vet speak into dog sign language for her. All I do is a little Vulcan Mind Meld thing with her. Makes me scratch behind my ear, but she can do some easy crossword puzzles.

Her largest lipoma is a bouncing D cup. She's got a handful more, and some colon polyps, but I don't want her to go through any anesthesia.

I've finally realized that law school is out for her. But she's been amazingly successful and fulfilled for a BCxGolden. Everytime someone thinks I picked her because her blonde hair matches mine, I painstakingly point out that my black lab x greyhound is the one that picked her out.

Ah, they're all good dogs, great dogs.

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Sad news to report... its been two weeks, but hard to post. Kobe, my faithful Siberian Husky passed away. He lived a long, happy life and finally it was his time. He had been going down hill and we knew it was soon, but its always too soon. He died in my husbands arms. He will be missed.

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