
Re: Skiing/Snowboarding
I would think twice about going this way.


Weteman I am just giving you this information as you asked what other areas were like. When I retire I plan to spend more time traveling to different ski areas, I have a list of ski areas I want to go to, and I want to get to Europe some day as well.
You could not ski a lot of things that way, but some places it would work fine. Will you have fun if you just trying to survive, and by cutting back and forth you will piss of the locals as it wrecks the snow. I am not trying to scare anyone but being smart does not hurt.
Here is some one that got in over their head, from the video I am thinking it would be a bit for most people to go down this area.
valley wrote:If you can turn and stop, you can ski anything. On a killer steep, it's amount to a series of linked recoveries.
You could not ski a lot of things that way, but some places it would work fine. Will you have fun if you just trying to survive, and by cutting back and forth you will piss of the locals as it wrecks the snow. I am not trying to scare anyone but being smart does not hurt.
There is nothing wrong with skiing trails that you feel comfortable on. I see people in areas where they are struggling to get down and they do not look as if they are enjoying it. It is good to challenge yourself, but when you feel like a challenge step it up a little at a time. Working on control is the key.Ski where you're comfortable,work on your skiing, eventually you'll be comfortable anywhere.
Here is some one that got in over their head, from the video I am thinking it would be a bit for most people to go down this area.
Gondolas are like the high-speed detachable chairs they come off of the cable to let you load and unload, they are spaced out enough to make this work well. From what I see out West gondolas are not as common as trams, you take your skis off for both, but they go a long ways up the mountain and go fast. Gondolas hold 4 to 6 people; trams can hold a lot more people some I think over 100 people. Where I ski is open 9 to 9 everyday until spring then midweek nights closes, in late spring they are only open on weekends. Over at Timberline they have skiing all year long and summer skiing is on the Palmer Glacier.
Yesterday I was skiing along the bottom of a cliff to get to some fresh powder when a guy came flying off of the cliff, it was a big drop and he was going very fast. If he had hit me I could have died. At the bottom of the run were a bunch of guys watching him, if he was going to jump blind off of a cliff why the H did he not have his friends act as spotters to keep people out of danger. Dumb people are everywhere and they don't know they are dumb.
Yesterday I was skiing along the bottom of a cliff to get to some fresh powder when a guy came flying off of the cliff, it was a big drop and he was going very fast. If he had hit me I could have died. At the bottom of the run were a bunch of guys watching him, if he was going to jump blind off of a cliff why the H did he not have his friends act as spotters to keep people out of danger. Dumb people are everywhere and they don't know they are dumb.
I see. I just went skiing today. I'll try to put together some video of it. I used a go pro.tomf wrote:Gondolas are like the high-speed detachable chairs they come off of the cable to let you load and unload, they are spaced out enough to make this work well. From what I see out West gondolas are not as common as trams, you take your skis off for both, but they go a long ways up the mountain and go fast. Gondolas hold 4 to 6 people; trams can hold a lot more people some I think over 100 people. Where I ski is open 9 to 9 everyday until spring then midweek nights closes, in late spring they are only open on weekends. Over at Timberline they have skiing all year long and summer skiing is on the Palmer Glacier.
Yesterday I was skiing along the bottom of a cliff to get to some fresh powder when a guy came flying off of the cliff, it was a big drop and he was going very fast. If he had hit me I could have died. At the bottom of the run were a bunch of guys watching him, if he was going to jump blind off of a cliff why the H did he not have his friends act as spotters to keep people out of danger. Dumb people are everywhere and they don't know they are dumb.
Here is the video on my youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6C94CTQ ... e=youtu.be
You might not be able to see it yet, it's not done uploading at the time I post this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6C94CTQ ... e=youtu.be
You might not be able to see it yet, it's not done uploading at the time I post this.
This is considered the hardest run in the USA, I have not yet to gone to Jackson Hole, at my age I am not sure if I will do this when I go, but I may.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYcgruURzQg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYcgruURzQg
tomf wrote:This is considered the hardest run in the USA, I have not yet to gone to Jackson Hole, at my age I am not sure if I will do this when I go, but I may.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYcgruURzQg
thats steep!
would anyone know the speeds we go down the hill?
I think it is more important to be in control than to go fast, I see people skiing faster than they should according to their ability and they are a danger to everyone. Also different people of different abilities ski at different speeds. It also depends upon where you are skiing, I ski a verity of speeds depending upon the conditions and traffic, where I am, and how I feel like skiing. I read the average skier goes about 25 MPH, it is nothing to go over 50 mph for an expert skier. The ski rep I got my racing GS skis from said they were good to 70 MPH, I am sure I have not had them up that fast. Thursday I will bring my GS skis and my iPhone with an app that tells you your speeds, just to calibrate my brain.
Yesterday I was off trail skiing in a place called Upper Elevator Shaft when I triggered an avalanche that was wind slab, and came down it blocks. Some more broke above me and swept my skis out from under me, I did not get pulled down with it so I was fine just full of snow. We went and told the ski patrol and one came with us so we could show them where it happened. He took photos of us next to the debris; I wish I could get the photos. Not far from the slide was a spot where they had use explosives to control the slope, but it did not slide. In this area they use hand tossed explosives to control the snow, in the outback canyons they have a cannon they got from the army to control the snow.
Yesterday I was off trail skiing in a place called Upper Elevator Shaft when I triggered an avalanche that was wind slab, and came down it blocks. Some more broke above me and swept my skis out from under me, I did not get pulled down with it so I was fine just full of snow. We went and told the ski patrol and one came with us so we could show them where it happened. He took photos of us next to the debris; I wish I could get the photos. Not far from the slide was a spot where they had use explosives to control the slope, but it did not slide. In this area they use hand tossed explosives to control the snow, in the outback canyons they have a cannon they got from the army to control the snow.
not good. What app are you using?tomf wrote:I think it is more important to be in control than to go fast, I see people skiing faster than they should according to their ability and they are a danger to everyone. Also different people of different abilities ski at different speeds. It also depends upon where you are skiing, I ski a verity of speeds depending upon the conditions and traffic, where I am, and how I feel like skiing. I read the average skier goes about 25 MPH, it is nothing to go over 50 mph for an expert skier. The ski rep I got my racing GS skis from said they were good to 70 MPH, I am sure I have not had them up that fast. Thursday I will bring my GS skis and my iPhone with an app that tells you your speeds, just to calibrate my brain.
Yesterday I was off trail skiing in a place called Upper Elevator Shaft when I triggered an avalanche that was wind slab, and came down it blocks. Some more broke above me and swept my skis out from under me, I did not get pulled down with it so I was fine just full of snow. We went and told the ski patrol and one came with us so we could show them where it happened. He took photos of us next to the debris; I wish I could get the photos. Not far from the slide was a spot where they had use explosives to control the slope, but it did not slide. In this area they use hand tossed explosives to control the snow, in the outback canyons they have a cannon they got from the army to control the snow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMW-yHUB ... e=youtu.be
This is a video from my go pro, I went down a black diamond at Asessippi.
This is a video from my go pro, I went down a black diamond at Asessippi.
The answer to how fast do we go has been calibrated; I took my iPhone skiing app with me yesterday as I wanted to know what speeds I was going. The application tracks your maximum speeds, average speeds, has a speed graph over time, it shows where you went, how steep it was and has a graph of the slope along with the maximum pitch you skied. Most skiers are going about 25 mph some slower and some faster, a fast skier is going over 30 mph, and one that looks as if they are going much faster than most people will be over 40 mph, real fast is over 50 mph. My fastest speed for the day was 65 mph, and that is not the fastest I have gone, I think I have gone up to 80 mph before. The steepest slope I was on was 57 degrees. Most of the day we were going about 45 to 55 mph. It is a cool program; if you go to the app store look for ski apps and you will find it. Mind you this ski report is from out west with wide open runs and steeper slopes, and my friends and I tend to ski faster than most people. Also the maximum slope would be at the top of a run, not the whole run, going down a 57 degree slope for a long distance would be like what some of the extreme skiers do up in Alaska.
oh, thanks.tomf wrote:The answer to how fast do we go has been calibrated; I took my iPhone skiing app with me yesterday as I wanted to know what speeds I was going. The application tracks your maximum speeds, average speeds, has a speed graph over time, it shows where you went, how steep it was and has a graph of the slope along with the maximum pitch you skied. Most skiers are going about 25 mph some slower and some faster, a fast skier is going over 30 mph, and one that looks as if they are going much faster than most people will be over 40 mph, real fast is over 50 mph. My fastest speed for the day was 65 mph, and that is not the fastest I have gone, I think I have gone up to 80 mph before. The steepest slope I was on was 57 degrees. Most of the day we were going about 45 to 55 mph. It is a cool program; if you go to the app store look for ski apps and you will find it. Mind you this ski report is from out west with wide open runs and steeper slopes, and my friends and I tend to ski faster than most people. Also the maximum slope would be at the top of a run, not the whole run, going down a 57 degree slope for a long distance would be like what some of the extreme skiers do up in Alaska.
This is a link to a ski forum; there is a lot of good information here. I must warn you some of the people there can be a bit rude and fast to jump on you with a put down, or argue something to death; most of them are cool, but not everyone is confrontational some are very nice.
https://www.epicski.com/
https://www.epicski.com/
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Gardening and snowboarding are my two favorite hobbies! Did a little snowboarding in California(Big Bear) before I came to Japan. But Japan blows California ski parks out of the water! I live in a ski town now and go snowboarding almost everyday! Love it!!
This is the view about 2 weeks ago from the school I work at!!
This is the view about 2 weeks ago from the school I work at!!
what is a ski town?davidschweer wrote:Gardening and snowboarding are my two favorite hobbies! Did a little snowboarding in California(Big Bear) before I came to Japan. But Japan blows California ski parks out of the water! I live in a ski town now and go snowboarding almost everyday! Love it!!
This is the view about 2 weeks ago from the school I work at!!
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Hum....
Its called a ski town at least in my area of the world because the population is very low(2000 people) making it a town not a city and there are 6 ski parks inside this town. The main industry is snow. Making it a ski town! I live in Gujo, Takasu its in Japan if you want to look it up!
You should come and visit! Beautiful place!

Its called a ski town at least in my area of the world because the population is very low(2000 people) making it a town not a city and there are 6 ski parks inside this town. The main industry is snow. Making it a ski town! I live in Gujo, Takasu its in Japan if you want to look it up!
You should come and visit! Beautiful place!
tomf wrote:Coming back from the mountain skiing yesterday my wife made the comment that what she likes about spring skiing is that you come down from winter up on the mountain to flowers and spring down bellow. It is like getting two seasons in one day.
And in Canada, we get out of the mountain(actually a valley) to see more snow

Just came back from skiing today.
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Last week was 8" to 10" of fresh powder and Sunday and over Sunday night the mountain got 11" of snow, but they are down to 3 days a week now Friday to Sunday. Now this week it is going to get hot about 80. Strange weather right? So I will see what this week end is like. I have tons to do out doors around the place anyways.
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I DO enjoy watching you ski.
Have fun!!
We still have about 12 feet of snow mid mountain but we have only two weeks left at the area we have our passes to. last Friday was fun spring skiing after a week of hot weather down below here it was soft up there. If I get the need I can always pay for a ticket and go up on the Palmer, it is open all summer long.