TheLorax
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Stumbled across a really interesting interview with a woman from California on permaculture-
https://www.ecotecture.com/library_eco/interviews/livingston_p_1a.html

I think you'll not only enjoy but be able to appreciate her definition of permaculture.

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Well well well Lorax. So you're into permaculture too???

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Chowmom! Well hello there!

Just getting into permaculture this year because of joining here but I am a wildlife gardener so the two seem to go hand in hand. Wait till you see the tomatoes lining my driveway and they're in 5-gallon buckets (gasp)! You will fall over having a grabber. Some of them are as tall as me! All but the sausage look like the epitome of health. I haven't a clue what went wrong with the sausage but it's hanging in there and all the other sausages friends were growing from the same tray are in tomato heaven. I've also got edibles growing in almost every ornamental concrete planter. The one hanging basket I have will also be an edible next year. A member named Jess found a good tomato for baskets so I'm going to try that one out.

It's my intent to give a few neighbors who like to worry about property values something to talk about. I'm going to buy 3-5 chickens. I done got me blueprints for a chicken coop to keep them safe from the coyotes, hawks, and cats around here. My husband is just shaking his head.

Have you any native seed packs you would be in a position to share with any new members gardening in the IL/IA/IN/WI areas?

Say, you gotta read the 'One Straw Revolution'!

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OK. I just ordered the book. Looking forward to it. In fact, I just placed a rather large order on Amazon for a bunch of related books. Just need to read them. Have had Gaia's Garden for a couple of months but haven't opened it. Too busy fighting the War of Weeds here.

BTW. Anyone in the Chicago area. There is an all day permaculture seminar and tour being held this Saturday in Downers Grove. There is a couple living there that have converted their entire yard over. Cost is $35 for the seminar or $85 for the seminar and tour. More info at:

https://www.midwestpermaculture.com/NowickiTourDay.php

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If you're going, I'll meet you there. We're back as of tomorrow. Hopefully it won't rain. Are we still able to register this late in the game or is this a pay at the door type deal?

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OK, here's another interesting read-
'Permaculture: the Incredible Shrinking/Expanding Garden'
https://www.ojaigarden.com/2008/07/permaculture_the_incredible_sh.shtml

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This thread has given me an interest in permaculture; I had never heard of the concept before. TheLorax, I followed your link to'Permaculture: the Incredible Shrinking/Expanding Garden'
[url]https://www.ojaigarden.com/2008/07/permaculture_the_incredible_sh.shtml[/url]and found the Bill Mollison & Permaculture, Full Video link
[url]https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3162503821561656641[/url] which was quite informative. I did not finish viewing the video and when I went back to it the video was not available. However, I was able to view each part. I am including the link to part 1,
[url]https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3327395368389797993&vt=lf&hl=en[/url], incase this happens to anyone else who'd like to view this video. You will then be able to view each part individually. Thank you for this informative topic! WOW!!! This forum is a wonderful place to learn and make new friends!
cherlynn

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so permaculture . . .

is essintially looking at horitculture form a holistic viewpoint? Is that correct?

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You could say that, but maybe a little more than horticulture.

I like to just look at the word itself

Permanent Agriculture
Permanent Culture

What does it take to change our agricultural practice to something that is truly permanent, sustainable FOREVER?

What does it take to do the same for all of human culture?

These are the questions I ask myself every day.

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Nice to have perspective from down under, birthplace of the artform...

Any thoughts on going permie on an urban scale, Nick? I've only got about a third of an acre, with neighbors on both sides, so small and unobtrusive are sort of watchwords here...

Thanks for being part of this,

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scott, in the permaculture design course i took, folks talked a fair amount about that interaction between one's land they're practicing on and the neighbors...i feel like, for those parts where that interaction takes place, it's good to feed the neighbor in some way, draw them in and make what you're doing seem attractive...whether you're just feeding them beauty, with a multi-purpose nectary area (which may well have food for you that many a neighbor wouldn't recognise), or berries or somesuch, planted with giveaway in mind...

just a thought.

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Re: Permaculture

[quote="TheLorax"]Permaculture, what exactly is it?

Check out books and courses by Bill Mollison - the man who coined the term 'permaculture'.
It is a sustainable way of life that can be applied not only to your garden,but entire communities.
The basic idea is that sustainable systems should be based on the principles of nature and use less energy than they produce - Bill himself calls it lazy gardening. It is a self-sustaining system, just like natural forests.

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