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Lemon scented Iowa native?

Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:43 am

I lived in Iowa many years ago and remember a native shrub with leaves that smelled strongly of lemon when crushed. Does anyone have a possible ID?
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:42 pm

Lemon Verbena or Lemon Myrtle?

Lemon Myrtle, Backhousia citriodora, is really an Australian tree, but it is grown as a shrub by keeping the top cut off. Not sure if it is frost hardy though.

Lemon Verbena, Aloysia citrodora, is a deciduous perennial shrub that dies to the ground in cold winter country, but comes back from the roots each year.

I like how the species names of both tell you that they are lemon scented!

But neither one is native... the verbena hails from South America.
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:01 pm

By native I assume you mean you saw these plants year-round and they die back in the winter but come back in spring?

How big were they? Were they twiggy? Did they die down to the ground in winter and start fresh shoots in spring?

So far, I'm stumped if this is really a woody shrub.
Only plants I can come up with are Monarda citriodora (lemon-scented native mint) and Lemon and Lime Basils. Lemon Balm, too, are hardy plants and can become naturalized. Basils are not hardy perennials but will self seed and grow in the same spot.

I'm thinking there should be some trees that might have lemony scent, that you may have encountered while they were smaller, but I can't think of them right now. Rainbowgardener, does Sourwood have that kind of fragrance?
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:08 pm

OK a couple of more candidates-- Could Northern Bay be considered in any way lemony? Also, am thinking some magnolia flowers have lemony fragrance... If they were already shriveled, you may not have thought of them as flowers.
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:33 am

rainbowgardener wrote:Lemon Verbena or Lemon Myrtle?
I never knew the shrub well enough to recognize it but my Dad would point it out when we were in the woods. As I recall, it was a woody deciduous shrub with glossy lance shaped leaves like the Australian lemon myrtle and the leaves smelled like lemon verbena. The plants I saw were no more than about three feet tall. I have tried to grow verbena but even the roots don't survive a good winter. I saw a TV show about Iowa native plants where a man mentioned a shrub with lemon scented leaves but I didn't catch the name.
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:43 am

applestar wrote:OK a couple of more candidates-- Could Northern Bay be considered in any way lemony?
I am not familiar with Northern Bay but it was a woody shrub that had to be extremely winter hardy. I never saw it when it had either flowers or fruit.
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:01 am

What about fragrant sumac? Isn't it supposed to be a citrusy scent to the foliage? Anyone familiar with the scent personally?
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:04 am

Hmm... all I remember is that "Sumac-aid" made from the berries are supposed to taste like lemonade.... Ozark Lady mentioned them before, maybe she would know.... :?:
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Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:27 am

Odd Duck wrote:What about fragrant sumac? Isn't it supposed to be a citrusy scent to the foliage? Anyone familiar with the scent personally?
No, it wasn't fragrant sumac with the seedy, lemon flavored berries. We have the fragrant 'three leaf' sumac here in MO and the leaves have a pungent smell but I wouldn't call it either lemony or fragrant.
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Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:53 pm

Here's a link to fragrant sumac
http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result ... lant=RHAR4
could this be the plant? There are other pics in this link if you need.

I know there are several native sumacs that get to many different sizes and have a fair amount of variety in the foliage as well. Take a look at the pics and see if anything rings a bell. Otherwise, maybe you can keep giving us more description of foliage, size, etc?
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Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:44 pm

Here's a link to fragrant sumac
http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result ... lant=RHAR4
could this be the plant? There are other pics in this link if you need.

I am familiar with the fragrant sumac ( squaw bush, skunk bush) and they grow in Iowa but I have never found them to have a lemony scent to the leaves. Some say the leaves smell like skunk but I wouldn't call them skunky either. They have an unpleasant spicy smell. Fragrant sumac has red seeds are very lemony and make a nice lemon-aide but this is not the shrub that I remember. It was more like the lemon verbena but extremely cold hardy.
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Re: Lemon scented Iowa native?

Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:22 am

bangstrom wrote:I lived in Iowa many years ago and remember a native shrub with leaves that smelled strongly of lemon when crushed. Does anyone have a possible ID?

I live in Sarnia, Ontario, Canada. This past summer I located a similar shrub/tree. I have taken some pictures and I will send them to you if you are still interested. I have asked the local nursier to help me identify it but no luck so far. The shinny green elongatged leaves definately have a strong lemon scent when wrinkled in your hand.
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Re: Lemon scented Iowa native?

Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:51 pm

I would be interested in seeing the pictures. Your description sounds like the shrub I have been asking about and, unlike lemon verbina, you have a similar climate where it might grow.
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Re: Lemon scented Iowa native?

Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:52 pm

bangstrom wrote:I would be interested in seeing the pictures. Your description sounds like the shrub I have been asking about and, unlike lemon verbina, you have a similar climate where it might grow.


It is funny I received your e-mail because I just found out the name of the bush. It is a Spice Bush 'Lindera Benzoin' I don't know how to send you the picture I took but if you go to http://www.mobot.org/gardeninghelp/plan ... ?code=D890 you will find information and pictures. It's a native plant of Missouri and grows east of the Mississippi Zone 4 to 9. The male has yellow flowers and the female has white flowers. Hope this solves the mystery for you. If you know how I could send you my picture just let me know.
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Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:34 am

You can post your pictures here; instructions are in NEW TO HELPFUL GARDENER under Helpful Tips and Suggestions for New Members.

But I'm afraid you may be disappointed. I grow spice bush. To me the crushed leaves are pungent and maybe a little spicy, but not in the slightest citrus-y.
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