sort of neat

[gbhunter77]

A picture of one of the newer member of the bonsai club. I sort of like this one. But then again I like the windswept type. I just can't get one of mine to be like this. Ill get it one day.

[kdodds]

There are very few windswepts that I can say I really like. Currently, this isn't one of them. There's just too much unfilled space. IOW, it looks more like "what the heck do I do with THIS" and less like, "this will be an awesome windswept". That said, where other styles can look fine in development, windswepts, IMO, don't start looking fine until they're close to "done".

[gbhunter77]

Perhaps Im not as good seeing things as i thought. Im starting to think im not going able to learn this stuff. Ill post more pics from a show we had. The guy loved it, he was a little boastful(I dislike people that do that). I soppose the question is: does it matter what others say. Or is it if he likes it thats all that matters. For me for some reason I care what others say(which is why I never post my bonsai pics.) At the club they told this guy he did a good job for being in it for a year. I don't know why they would say that if its crap.



Here is another from the club meeting. It ok. The guy took like 20 min to make it. He just picked a random bush and said exactly what you stated. "lets see what the heck we can do with this". Sorry i just noticed the pic is upside down. The place was dark so its a tad grainy.

[kdodds]

Oh, I didn't say it was crap. I said I didn't like it and that it didn't seem suited to the style (or any style) to me. Don't like the second one either, sorry.

[gbhunter77]

Now I don't feel so bad. I was looking through a book and hated about 40% of everything he had. I suppose thays what makes it art.

[kdodds]

Possibly. Everyone has their own taste in art, true. And there are just pieces where a majority of people will go, "What the?" BUT, bonsai should, like art in any form, display in such a way that, even if you don't like it, you will agree that it is well done. I think that's what sets true art apart from the rest, despite personal aesthetics. To me, this tree doesn't quite get there (yet anyway).

[gbhunter77]

Then the qestion remains about the firsr tree. Should i keep it and see what happens or trash it?
the well done part of art to me is 50/50 picaso is a good example i do not find most pf hos work as good or well done. But others think ots the.greatedt thing sice sliced bread.

The second bonsai i posted is actually done by a pro. I don't have his name but can get it. I just have a hard time seeing "the tree with in". I have no idea what good is.
I think ill do it just so I enjoy it and not ask opinions.
Thanks for the help though.

[kdodds]

Letting it grow out can't hurt. I mean, it's not like you'll be doing a whole lot but caring for it. Let it grow, see what becomes of it.

[gbhunter77]

The plant int the first image. Does it bud back?

[kdodds]

Sometimes Junipers will back bud, but you can't reliably chop them back.

[gbhunter77]

You guys are a wealth of info. More so than even my club. I will see if I can come up with some sort of scene that would make this growth possible. I mean 95% of the people I showed too thought it was a windswept. But darn that empty space.

[kdodds]

The problem is the amount of empty space in comparison to the thickness of the branches, not the empty space itself. To me, for lack of a better analogy, it looks like one of those pom-pom poodle landscape trees, just bent. JMO, but the character just isn't there. It may come in time, but waiting for those branches to catch up, well, time is something you'll need a lot of. My guess would be something on the order of ten or fifteen years. Again, JMO.

[gbhunter77]

Well 15 years is a bit. Any. Suggestions at what till then.

[gbhunter77]

A bit much for me given I inherited this thing. I used to like it. But now its...um. .hmmm ugly. So should I just chuck it I don't think there is much that can be done with this branch structure. As far as vision goes I have never seen trees in the wild that resemble the bonsa I see in the gallery, i must be missing something. The pine in the first thread of the bonsai forum to me looks OK...So I must be missing something I just can't see "it". Perhaps I'mto hasty. I would never post any of my trees here would be embarresing.

[kdodds]

I just did this quick in paint. See the difference?