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Breaking Laterals on Blackberry canes

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:06 pm
by catfishhoward
Pretty much all my Prime Ark Freedom laterals are breaking at the base, I have them on a 2 wire trellis so I didn't expect this even though they are 6' tall and hugh. I think its the squirrels and birds but could it be that they are not getting enough water, I'm in Atlanta Ga and been watering them about a gallon every other day in the mid 80's. I just set up some 1 GPH dip emitters and plan on using them maybe 2 gallons a day?
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The PAF berries when I pick them look black but the next morning there purple and not so good tasting? anyone else have this problem or do I have something else going on?
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Below is a picture of my Apache and Natchez blackberries I'll be using the emitters on.
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Re: Braking Laterals

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:21 pm
by applestar
I have Triple Crown variety thornless blackberries. I have found that they need to be COMPLETELY black to ripen to that incredible blackberry flavor. If there is any red at all I wait for another 1/2 day (if morning, then late afternoon, or if in the afternoon until next morning)

Typical of most berries, the ripe ones will fall off easily into your hand - if you have to tug at all, they are not ready.

I'm not sure what you mean about black ones turning purple -- When the berries are in the shade they could look darker. Also there is the classic "berry picker vision distortion" -- The first time you go through picking, you pick all the blackest black ones (or reddest red, etc.) then you do a second sweep for any you might have missed. But since you already picked the blackest ones, the darkest of the remaining ones look blackest when they are in fact NOT -- you rejected them in the first sweep. This can happen if birds have picked the ripe berries before you came out. Do you have them protected?

Re: Braking Laterals on Blackberry canes

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:59 pm
by catfishhoward
The black berries on the left are when I just picked them and over night on the counter top or in the fridge they turn purple like the ones in the pictures on the right were picked yesterday.
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I'm definitely picking them a little early or the critters all get them, I guess on the small scale I should have an enclosed netted area, but In the future I planned on planting a couple acres of blackberries, loganberries,raspberries and figs. How would you keep the birds of the berries in an acre or more?

Anyone tasted there PAF berries yet?

Re: Breaking Laterals on Blackberry canes

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:17 pm
by JONA
Most growers who have any large area of berries try to keep the birds out by various methods. From flapping spinners to humming string...but in general we accept that a percentage will go down the birds throats, usually the rows that are nearest to the hedges!

Re: Breaking Laterals on Blackberry canes

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:20 am
by applestar
Subject: Fruit Harvest from season to season
applestar wrote:I needed the blue container, so I decided to sort through the blackberries in the blue container that I picked day before yesterday into "perfect berries" vs. "rejects" according to the criteria I decided on yesterday. When I brought them out of the fridge to the patio table in the sun, I noticed that some of their druplets had turned red. After sorting them, I combined them with yesterday's refrigerated "perfect" berries that were left in the purple container, then put TODAY's harvested and sorted "perfect" berries in the cleaned BLUE container -- They didn't quite fit.... :()

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--- those reddened druplets reminded me of this post ---

Subject: Breaking Laterals on Blackberry canes
catfishhoward wrote:The PAF berries when I pick them look black but the next morning there purple and not so good tasting? anyone else have this problem or do I have something else going on?
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