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Re: Fruit Harvest from season to season
The Strawberries are coming! The Strawberries are coming!
JONA wrote:I would add a couple of tips for those who have a heavy crop of apples this season.
This is only for long storage type apples and not for the early varieties which will not store regardless of how you treat them...
I'm glad this old thread turned up. JONA, that is priceless information, thank you.
I'm mostly posting as a place marker to remember to post later about my fruit tress.
I was referring to the information regarding timing the harvest, but yes, the storage info is great. We don't get quite enough from our two trees (maybe 5-10 gallons?) to bother much with storage, though. The bulk of it gets eaten, given away, or baked into something within a few weeks. We also don't have a problem with vermin in our garage, thankfully. If we did, I'd send our intrepid and able feline killer in there!
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My family really likes homemade apple sauce and apple butter. I make it, then pressure can it. We unfortunately don't have apple trees... That needs remedied, ASAP!
I looked and looked for a fig and orange jam recipe for years, finally found one that I altered to be exactly how I like it! It's made with dehydrated black figs I have 4 new dwarf fig trees this year, and I hope to get enough figs to make the jam from my own garden!
I've thought about making a tomato and onion savory jam this year.
We make peach peach BBQ sauce and peach chutney every year and can it as well! Last year we got NO peaches due to a late hard freeze. This year we have lots of peaches, but I believe our plums are lost to curculio beetles.
I looked and looked for a fig and orange jam recipe for years, finally found one that I altered to be exactly how I like it! It's made with dehydrated black figs I have 4 new dwarf fig trees this year, and I hope to get enough figs to make the jam from my own garden!
I've thought about making a tomato and onion savory jam this year.
We make peach peach BBQ sauce and peach chutney every year and can it as well! Last year we got NO peaches due to a late hard freeze. This year we have lots of peaches, but I believe our plums are lost to curculio beetles.
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Re-cap strawberries so far. In the last two photos, those were morning and afternoon harvests today -- a respectable amount for DDs' daily snacking -- they are starting not to be able to finish all in one day, and have starting freezing left overs. Pretty soon, I'll be able to eat as much as I want as well and still have enough to freeze for smoothies, etc. later.
I've netted the Spiral Garden Inner Spiral of Seascape strawberries.
...and the raspberries are getting ready thanks to all the bumblebee activity among the flowers
I've netted the Spiral Garden Inner Spiral of Seascape strawberries.
...and the raspberries are getting ready thanks to all the bumblebee activity among the flowers
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Strawberries still going strong, though the patch of Wild Strawberries that produced first are declining. They are down to what I call "bird sized" -- almost not worth the effort to harvest. Due to different microclimates, other patches are just starting and I probably need to move the Birdscares to protect those and let the bird sized ones go to the birds. The big Seascape berries protected with the VIP netting have been trickling in
I'm not sure what's different, but the Triple Crown thornless blackberries are blooming like mad this year
I'm not sure what's different, but the Triple Crown thornless blackberries are blooming like mad this year
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Peaches are blushing! Pulling off several from brown rot or bug holes. I won't be eating these without paying close attention. I'm not sure when I'm supposed to pick them off. They smell like nothing, and they're still very hard. But I may ACTUALLY get at least a few this year!
Nectarines are still fuzzy and tiny and not growing. I'm starting to think the graft on this died off, and this is rootstock fruit.
Nectarines are still fuzzy and tiny and not growing. I'm starting to think the graft on this died off, and this is rootstock fruit.
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My peaches and cherries got blasted by a severe late frost/freeze this year -- they were blooming beautifully, too.
Very few cherries -- it also didn't help that the robins had been nesting in the espalier cherries and I was silly enough "not to bother them" too much, so the cherries didn't get the care they needed. And I'm not even sure if there are 1/2 dozen peaches on the Carolina Belle and the little volunteer yellow peach may have two or three fruits at most. They are just starting to change color from green but not full size yet.
I will have to learn what to do in the event of similar weather crisis in the future. I think someone said to run the sprinkler on them -- I couldn't at the time because the hoses were still all rolled up in the hose holder and semi frozen.
Very few cherries -- it also didn't help that the robins had been nesting in the espalier cherries and I was silly enough "not to bother them" too much, so the cherries didn't get the care they needed. And I'm not even sure if there are 1/2 dozen peaches on the Carolina Belle and the little volunteer yellow peach may have two or three fruits at most. They are just starting to change color from green but not full size yet.
I will have to learn what to do in the event of similar weather crisis in the future. I think someone said to run the sprinkler on them -- I couldn't at the time because the hoses were still all rolled up in the hose holder and semi frozen.
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We use this system to frost protect apples and pears.Lindsaylew82 wrote:Yes! Last year we had a late frost, and I lost all the peaches and plums. Here they run overhead sprinklers on them to form a layer of ice, which somehow acts as insulation from the frost.
It does require huge amounts of water though.....and good drainage!
The water gives off its latent heat as it freezes, so keeping the ice that forms at a constant freezing point and no lower. The buds can tolerate this.
Problem is you have to keep the water going until the temp gets above freezing and the sprinklers must be delivering around an 8th of an inch per hour.
We use around a million gallons a night on an 8hour run.
That's a lot of water.
The pruning of the tree has to be spot on too. There can be a hell of a weight of ice on a tree by morning....so any branches that are not pruned to weep nicely are prone to break.
We made the mistake to try it out on raspberries one spring. Big mistake.
We forgot the weight.....the ice brought the whole structure of wires and posts down.
I believe that this form of protection was originally produced to help protect black current growers. This fruit flowers so early in the season that growers were losing too many crops and as a result were losing their juicing contracts which is their main source of income.
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My old apple tree that was loaded (probably overloaded) last year is totally devoid of anything this year. We had several late frosts which I think did the trick. It bloomed prolificly though. I suppose since it was so productive last year, that might have something to do with the failure this year.
I wonder what kind of fertilizer one should use if any, for old, neglected fruit trees?
I wonder what kind of fertilizer one should use if any, for old, neglected fruit trees?
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Blackberries have started... blueberries continuing... Nearly last of the early summer yellow raspberries.
(Triple Crown thornless blackberries, various blueberries, some I don't remember but I have 5 named cultivars and two wild low-bush with one of them having been selected for larger berries), Ann and Kiwi Gold yellow raspberries)
...oh, I forgot about the single Seascape strawberry.
All the berries require meticulous protection from the catbirds and robins, occasionally cardinals....
(Triple Crown thornless blackberries, various blueberries, some I don't remember but I have 5 named cultivars and two wild low-bush with one of them having been selected for larger berries), Ann and Kiwi Gold yellow raspberries)
...oh, I forgot about the single Seascape strawberry.
All the berries require meticulous protection from the catbirds and robins, occasionally cardinals....
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...I was looking up what causes the pale tasteless druplets. Some are extensively affected. One cause is stinkbugs and I did catch a juvie Brown Marmorated stinkbugs today, but I think most are due to overheating and sunscald. Some of the ones I overstuffed too many in a single organza bag that was exposed to full sun seem to have been affected more ( -- bagged them to protect from bugs and birds and ended up cooking them instead)
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As of today -- I had a duh moment yesterday when I realized I should be sorting the blackberries and separating the bad berries from good ones. I decided best time to do this is when I'm triple rinsing them outside because it's too difficult to pick out berries from a container without bruising them. When I rinse them, I float them in a bucket of water and scoop them up and out by handfuls. Much easier to inspect and sort then.
I decided on no more than three bad druplets to make the cut
-- a quart of perfect berries --
I decided on no more than three bad druplets to make the cut
-- a quart of perfect berries --
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I don't know yet. I was thinking maybe they can be used for something that requires straining?
The trouble with the ones with white drupelets is that they leave hard remains in my mouth -- I think the core might be undeveloped unlike the fully ripe ones which have core that are soft and tasty.. I tried cooking them in the cobbler the other day, but that was a disaster -- I was spitting out the inedible parts -- only using perfect berries for baking from now on, and probably making smoothies, too.
So I was going to try cooking with sugar and straining into a blackberry sauce/syrup once I have enough rejects. Maybe good for ice cream and pancakes? I think I would rather use perfect berries for preserves and even jellies. I was wondering if I could use the rejects for making a cordial/liquor since they would be strained out.
The trouble with the ones with white drupelets is that they leave hard remains in my mouth -- I think the core might be undeveloped unlike the fully ripe ones which have core that are soft and tasty.. I tried cooking them in the cobbler the other day, but that was a disaster -- I was spitting out the inedible parts -- only using perfect berries for baking from now on, and probably making smoothies, too.
So I was going to try cooking with sugar and straining into a blackberry sauce/syrup once I have enough rejects. Maybe good for ice cream and pancakes? I think I would rather use perfect berries for preserves and even jellies. I was wondering if I could use the rejects for making a cordial/liquor since they would be strained out.
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I needed the blue container, so I decided to sort through the blackberries in the blue container that I picked day before yesterday into "perfect berries" and "rejects" according to the criteria I decided on yesterday. When I brought them out of the fridge to the patio table in the sun, I noticed that some of their druplets had turned red. After sorting them, I combined them with yesterday's refrigerated "perfect" berries that were left in the purple container, then put TODAY's harvested and sorted "perfect" berries in the cleaned BLUE container -- They didn't quite fit....
--- those reddened druplets reminded me of this post ---
Subject: Breaking Laterals on Blackberry canes
--- those reddened druplets reminded me of this post ---
Subject: Breaking Laterals on Blackberry canes
catfishhoward wrote:The PAF berries when I pick them look black but the next morning there purple and not so good tasting? anyone else have this problem or do I have something else going on?
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Still harvesting blackberries Hanging basket strawberries are finally starting to fruit -- I'm not sure what variety this is....
This spring, my little Carolina Belle peach tree as well as the volunteer yellow peach tree were in full bloom when we were struck by a hard frost/freeze. As a result, the tree only managed to grow half dozen greenies and dropped 4. Last week when I showed DH the nearly ripe two remaining fruits, he predicted that "someone is going to steal them" unless I covered them. Once he said it, it seemed like a certainty (squirrels, chipmunks, birds.... Oh my!), so I immediately took some protective measures.
Today, when I opened the berry box to check on the bigger one, it came right off -- like most fruits will when ripe -- and when I tried to remove the protection for the smaller one so I could replace it with the more secure berry box, that one came off too, although it has a little greenish cast on one side. I would say the bigger one will be fully ripe by tomorrow and the smaller one the next day.
This spring, my little Carolina Belle peach tree as well as the volunteer yellow peach tree were in full bloom when we were struck by a hard frost/freeze. As a result, the tree only managed to grow half dozen greenies and dropped 4. Last week when I showed DH the nearly ripe two remaining fruits, he predicted that "someone is going to steal them" unless I covered them. Once he said it, it seemed like a certainty (squirrels, chipmunks, birds.... Oh my!), so I immediately took some protective measures.
Today, when I opened the berry box to check on the bigger one, it came right off -- like most fruits will when ripe -- and when I tried to remove the protection for the smaller one so I could replace it with the more secure berry box, that one came off too, although it has a little greenish cast on one side. I would say the bigger one will be fully ripe by tomorrow and the smaller one the next day.
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Haha my grapes are NOWHERE near like that. These are from a volunteer grape vine. Possibly "wild" muscadine -- originally thought they might be scuppernong but I'm seeing those described as white grapes.... They grow very sparse/loose clusters that do NOT ripen all at once. I have to feel them to see if they are ripe and harvest them individually.
Last year, I lost the entire lot to some problems -- they turned brown and rotted. I suspected problems triggered by insect damage -- like Japanese beetles and stinkbugs -- so I bagged the 6-8 clusters that set fruits this year, and they are finally starting to ripen -- they are incredibly yummy but astringent near the slip-skin if not allowed to ripen fully. One or two seeds per fruit.
(Maid of Orleans Arabian tea jasmine blossoms and last of the wild blueberries)
Last year, I lost the entire lot to some problems -- they turned brown and rotted. I suspected problems triggered by insect damage -- like Japanese beetles and stinkbugs -- so I bagged the 6-8 clusters that set fruits this year, and they are finally starting to ripen -- they are incredibly yummy but astringent near the slip-skin if not allowed to ripen fully. One or two seeds per fruit.
(Maid of Orleans Arabian tea jasmine blossoms and last of the wild blueberries)
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Hmmm. Now I'm confused. Maybe this isn't a wild, bird-sown grape at all. Maybe it's from a spat out seed -- growing in the bed off the patio....?
I did a quick search at a table grape site and a likely candidate is Red Globe. Mine are not the 1 inch giants, but that -along with the poor and uneven fruitset in the cluster- might be explained by inadequate care and growing conditions? It's not in full sun for example. Maybe it's just not growing to its potential.
I'm going to start with this --
Causes of Poor Fruit Set in Grapes - eXtension
https://articles.extension.org/pages/331 ... -in-grapes
...and this --
I did a quick search at a table grape site and a likely candidate is Red Globe. Mine are not the 1 inch giants, but that -along with the poor and uneven fruitset in the cluster- might be explained by inadequate care and growing conditions? It's not in full sun for example. Maybe it's just not growing to its potential.
I'm going to start with this --
Causes of Poor Fruit Set in Grapes - eXtension
https://articles.extension.org/pages/331 ... -in-grapes
...and this --
...maybe pay a bit more attention to it this fall and winter, and see where this goes. I might also try to grow some cuttings and see if I can find it a better location since the flavor is outstanding. The trouble is growing zone for Red Globe is Zone 7 and up. Right now, next to the brick patio and against the SE wall, it's probably in one of the most protected location possible without more elaborate set up.Millerandage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millerandage
A grape cluster with signs of millerandage with small, immature berries scattered throughout the bunch.
Millerandage (or shot berries, hens and chicks and pumpkins and peas) is a potential viticultural hazard problem in which grape bunches contain berries that differ greatly in size and, most importantly, maturity. Its most common cause is cold, rainy or otherwise bad weather during the flowering stage of the vines though other factors, such as boron deficiency or fanleaf degeneration, may also play a role.[1]