grape leaves

[fhhs]

can someone help me indentify what the problem is here:

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this is green grapes btw

[cynthia_h]

In what region do you garden? United States? United Kingdom? New Zealand?

If in the U.S., please give us a hint. Wyoming? New England? Panhandle Florida?

Different insects in different parts of the country/world will leave marks like this.

Cynthia H.
Sunset Zone 17, USDA Zone 9

[fhhs]

I live in New York!

[The Helpful Gardener]

It doesn't LOOK fungal; maybe water spots lensing sunshine? How's fruit set? Any signs?

HG

[fhhs]

the fruits havent started appearing yet but I'm sure it will come out okay but I wasnt sure if this was going to affect the fruits later on and the birds eat almost all my grapes anyway, I gotta do something with these birds now.

[The Helpful Gardener]

That's easily done with some netting...

HG