This is how my garden looked before a Great Dane moved in. He is moving to a new home and I will be starting to repair the damage. Any suggestions for changes, improvements?
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pamelainca
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My daughter is moving out this weekend so the dog is going too.
I didn't think it was worth posting a picture of what it looks like now. The landscape fabric under the rock is all torn up and pulled up so I will be raking back all the rock a section at a time to replace it. The deck boards have to be replaced as they are chewed on the edges. Most of the plants are dead too.
I will almost be starting all over so now is the time to make changes.
I didn't think it was worth posting a picture of what it looks like now. The landscape fabric under the rock is all torn up and pulled up so I will be raking back all the rock a section at a time to replace it. The deck boards have to be replaced as they are chewed on the edges. Most of the plants are dead too.
I will almost be starting all over so now is the time to make changes.
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Piet Patings
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Well, then if you fancy the look, this may be a great opportunity to introduce karikomi and hako zukuri into your garden (topiary technique of clipping shrubs and trees into large curved shapes or sculptures and Hako-zukuri; shrubs clipped into boxes and straight lines).
That would make it more Zen.
Your "space" seems to be made for this.....
Have a look at my site. [url]https://www.karesansui.nl/[/url]
There is a chapter that specifically addresses this subject. Note that topiary shrubs etc. and stone (rock) are used interchangeably.
You could also consider to paint the wall into a lighter color to get even more puristic. On my website you find links to other karesansui gardens that may inspire you.
Enjoy,
That would make it more Zen.
Your "space" seems to be made for this.....
Have a look at my site. [url]https://www.karesansui.nl/[/url]
There is a chapter that specifically addresses this subject. Note that topiary shrubs etc. and stone (rock) are used interchangeably.
You could also consider to paint the wall into a lighter color to get even more puristic. On my website you find links to other karesansui gardens that may inspire you.
Enjoy,
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pamelainca
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I love the shapes in your pictures. There is a larger area, about 10', off the left of the deck as looking from the house, that extends all the way down the side of the house that I haven't done anything with also. Do you have any ideas/pictues of a long slim area?
My pictures are early in the process and doesn't show the Rhodedendron that has grown up to screen the air conditioner on the right of the deck.
I hadn't thought of painting the wall but I had thought about putting bamboo fencing panels between the stones in the wall that protrude to soften it and also to cover the wood fence. I want the feel of a Japanese courtyard garden because it is so small.
My pictures are early in the process and doesn't show the Rhodedendron that has grown up to screen the air conditioner on the right of the deck.
I hadn't thought of painting the wall but I had thought about putting bamboo fencing panels between the stones in the wall that protrude to soften it and also to cover the wood fence. I want the feel of a Japanese courtyard garden because it is so small.
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Hello again, good you like it.... not sure what 10' means ... is that 10 sq feet ? (lots of interesting elements here: [url]https://kyoto.ankernielsen.dk/foto/daitoku%20ji/thumbs1.htm[/url] ).
Not knowing how it looks now I'll make some suggestions.
Seeing the front of your house and the lot-size and placement there would be a great opportunity to also incorporate the side of the house. This will be narrow I think. Not the best place for planting ... but a great place for a genuine "Roji" (not the tea garden as such but the "dewy path". The stepping stones you have are very nice. Such stones (tobi-ishi) would also make a great path at the side of the house connecting the front with the back yard (example: [url]https://kyoto.ankernielsen.dk/foto/konpuku%20ji/stor/jap99a2949.htm[/url] ).
Here they could lay in real moss ! Or in a look a like ground cover.
Further planting could then be limited to only a few high growing pruned bamboo and perhaps some high thinned trees (deciduous or evergreen).
Then at the connecting with the back side, next to the veranda, you can even concider a tsukubay (for an example see: [url]https://www.karesansui.nl/html/page_obj_tsukubai.htm[/url])
Then the back side. Regarding the wall. Just because it is not very deep you need to introduce space. I think placing bamboo would bring it closer.
Painting the wall light-ochre, cream or even (almost) white will help that. You can still decide to keep the pillars as they are.
Then keeping a relative deep gravel area and a small area with plants close to the wall will also do just that. This tsukiyama area could be a small strip with moss and/or ground cover and/or karikomi.
Plenty of possibilities here.
Note that the leaf-size should be small. Placing one or two plants on or close to the veranda with bigger leafs will again strengthen the impression of depth. Darker colors in the back and lighter colors in the front also.
You can go for topiary ([url]https://www.karesansui.nl/html/page_obj_karikomi.htm[/url]) or combinations with stone and or small trees.
Interesting to see all the possibilities. This is a real tsubo-niwa (small courtyard garden) with lots of fine examples.
Success, Piet,
Not knowing how it looks now I'll make some suggestions.
Seeing the front of your house and the lot-size and placement there would be a great opportunity to also incorporate the side of the house. This will be narrow I think. Not the best place for planting ... but a great place for a genuine "Roji" (not the tea garden as such but the "dewy path". The stepping stones you have are very nice. Such stones (tobi-ishi) would also make a great path at the side of the house connecting the front with the back yard (example: [url]https://kyoto.ankernielsen.dk/foto/konpuku%20ji/stor/jap99a2949.htm[/url] ).
Here they could lay in real moss ! Or in a look a like ground cover.
Further planting could then be limited to only a few high growing pruned bamboo and perhaps some high thinned trees (deciduous or evergreen).
Then at the connecting with the back side, next to the veranda, you can even concider a tsukubay (for an example see: [url]https://www.karesansui.nl/html/page_obj_tsukubai.htm[/url])
Then the back side. Regarding the wall. Just because it is not very deep you need to introduce space. I think placing bamboo would bring it closer.
Painting the wall light-ochre, cream or even (almost) white will help that. You can still decide to keep the pillars as they are.
Then keeping a relative deep gravel area and a small area with plants close to the wall will also do just that. This tsukiyama area could be a small strip with moss and/or ground cover and/or karikomi.
Plenty of possibilities here.
Note that the leaf-size should be small. Placing one or two plants on or close to the veranda with bigger leafs will again strengthen the impression of depth. Darker colors in the back and lighter colors in the front also.
You can go for topiary ([url]https://www.karesansui.nl/html/page_obj_karikomi.htm[/url]) or combinations with stone and or small trees.
Interesting to see all the possibilities. This is a real tsubo-niwa (small courtyard garden) with lots of fine examples.
Success, Piet,
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Ah ... forgot.... to complete the former.
The link to Anker Nielsen's photos has (more than) plenty of fine examples.
Always think of this (on: [url]https://www.karesansui.nl/html/page_Realization.htm[/url] ).
P.s. Where do you live ? I.e. what area, climate zone ?
The link to Anker Nielsen's photos has (more than) plenty of fine examples.
Always think of this (on: [url]https://www.karesansui.nl/html/page_Realization.htm[/url] ).
Enjoy, PietOne should not just reproduce the traditional gardens of olden times, but should study those works well and then refer to them when making a contemporary garden. To refer to and to imitate are two very different things.
Mirei Shigemori
P.s. Where do you live ? I.e. what area, climate zone ?
Dear Piet,
I'm sure she means 10 linear feet (just over 3 linear meters) of length. She didn't give the width, but if I can guess from the photograph at the beginning of this thread, it may be approx. 5 linear feet wide (1.6 m).
Your own website is absolutely beautiful.
Cynthia H.
USDA Zone 9, Sunset Zone 17
I'm sure she means 10 linear feet (just over 3 linear meters) of length. She didn't give the width, but if I can guess from the photograph at the beginning of this thread, it may be approx. 5 linear feet wide (1.6 m).
Your own website is absolutely beautiful.
Cynthia H.
USDA Zone 9, Sunset Zone 17
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I looked at that first link and the picture in the third row, third picture, captures my attention. It makes me think of a sheltered cove where the water comes in and meets the shore and cliffs of rock. How perfect for the largest corner area.
The 10' I referred to is down the side of the house. It's 10' wide and probably 30' long. A path running the length of it to a bench would be nice. Sitting at that spot would look back down the path to the corner that the "cove" could be in. Moss would probably do very well there too. The suggestion of the wash basin at the entrance to the long narrow area is helpful as that is on a short side of the deck and it has nothing else around it.
Thank you for all the ideas. I can envision the rocks being more in the middle like a stream and putting more plants around the edges and then the rocks eddy into the cove in the corner.
The 10' I referred to is down the side of the house. It's 10' wide and probably 30' long. A path running the length of it to a bench would be nice. Sitting at that spot would look back down the path to the corner that the "cove" could be in. Moss would probably do very well there too. The suggestion of the wash basin at the entrance to the long narrow area is helpful as that is on a short side of the deck and it has nothing else around it.
Thank you for all the ideas. I can envision the rocks being more in the middle like a stream and putting more plants around the edges and then the rocks eddy into the cove in the corner.
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Thanks for the help and complements Cynthia.
Pamela, yes that Korin-in scene is a very nice example indeed.
These photos from Anker Nielsen belong to the best I have seen on the web.
I read that you can already envision your re-do. Making a simple scaled drawing will help you to reveal do and don'ts prior to selecting and buying objects.
If you use stone (representing mountains) try to find "sabi" specimen (see: [url]https://www.aisf.or.jp/~jaanus/deta/s/sabi.htm[/url] ).
Please share any substantial progress you make with us.
Lots of good insight, Piet,
P.s. If you later would any plant advice do not forget to tell your climate-zone.
Pamela, yes that Korin-in scene is a very nice example indeed.
These photos from Anker Nielsen belong to the best I have seen on the web.
I read that you can already envision your re-do. Making a simple scaled drawing will help you to reveal do and don'ts prior to selecting and buying objects.
If you use stone (representing mountains) try to find "sabi" specimen (see: [url]https://www.aisf.or.jp/~jaanus/deta/s/sabi.htm[/url] ).
Please share any substantial progress you make with us.
Lots of good insight, Piet,
P.s. If you later would any plant advice do not forget to tell your climate-zone.
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Hello Pamela,
I just replied to an other thread but it also reminded me of your garden shape and size.
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I have added some video-clips to my website. One short clip "Long and narrow karesansui garden" reminded me of this. Perhaps it can inspire you.
You can find the clip on my video clips page, going down some seven entries in the playlist:
[url]https://www.karesansui.nl/html/page_video.htm[/url]
Enjoy, Piet,
I just replied to an other thread but it also reminded me of your garden shape and size.
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... long and rectangle.....
I have added some video-clips to my website. One short clip "Long and narrow karesansui garden" reminded me of this. Perhaps it can inspire you.
You can find the clip on my video clips page, going down some seven entries in the playlist:
[url]https://www.karesansui.nl/html/page_video.htm[/url]
Enjoy, Piet,