What type of tree is this?

[cmc2dina]

These pictures were taken in March in South Carolina. Does anyone know what kind of tree this is? Could it be a Washington Hawethorne? I will have more pictures at the end of the month, right now I cant tell you anymore about the leaves or the bark.
Thanks for any help!!
Dina
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[Newt]

Hi Dina,

Did you ever find out what your tree is? I don't think it's a Washington hawthorn as they bloom in summer with their leaves.
https://www.cas.vanderbilt.edu/bioimages/species/crph.htm

It might be a different variety of hawthorn. Take a look here as there are several you can click on for pics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crataegus

Newt

[cmc2dina]

Thanks for the link. Now I don't think it is a Washington Hawthorne. Actually I don't think it is a Hawthorne at all, the leaves in the link you gave me seem more "Oak-leaf" shaped. So I am back to Square 1. Here are some pictures of the leaves, berries and thorny bark.
Thanks for your help!! Dina
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[Newt]

Dina, I have been searching for 3 hours and I'm certain it's a hawthorn. The question would be 'which one'? In Wisconsin alone there are over 40 species and many have variable leaf shapes, even on the same tree. From this site.
https://www.uwgb.edu/biodiversity/herbarium/trees/cramol01.htm

There are about 40 species of Crataegus in Wisconsin, 17 of them are considered to be trees, and they are difficult to distinguish from one another.

The leaves can be variable in shape and size.

Just look at the different leaf shapes on the same species here.
https://selectree.calpoly.edu/photos.lasso?KeyValue=456

If you would like to get an idea of just how many there are, here are two sites that I didn't finish searching with. The first one is the Herbarium at UNC. Look under the botanical name Crataegus.
https://herbarium.unc.edu/types.htm#C

Some listed here are duplicates, but there are several varieties that aren't at the UNC site.
https://www.omne-vivum.com/taxonomy/c.htm

I've already looked at about 50 and there are these that are a 'maybe' and that's only in the A's, though I did do more letters of the alphabet from other sites. I used a couple of different keys for the id of trees and I'm convinced it is a hawthorn.
C. aestivalis
C. alachuana
C. albemarlensis
C. aegens
C. alma

You can google those with the full botanical name and click on 'Images'. I'm wondering if the tree you saw is planted in a garden or could it be wild?

Newt

[grandpasrose]

This tree is definitely not a Washington Hawthorn as the leaves and the flowers are both wrong.
I am leaning towards the prunus genus, which is interesting because both hawthorn and prunus belong to the same family - rosaceae. I haven't been able to narrow it down to which species of prunus yet - as with hawthorn, there are hundreds!!
The fact that the stamens are purple, not yellow, seems to be a defining feature. It is not common.
I will keep looking!!

Val

[Newt]

Val, so prunus have thorns?

Newt

[grandpasrose]

Whoops! Guess I missed that one. I thought they were broken off twigs or branches. Sorry - no prunus don't have thorns! Thanks for catching that Newt!

Val

[Newt]

Val, been there, done that! I found in the hawthorn there is variation in leaf shape, leaf texture, number of flower petals, difference in thorn size, bark texture, you name it! I was dizzy by the time I stopped searching.

Newt