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I know, Halfway...I served, and still love my country; just can't do that "my country right or wrong" thing anymore... I kind of think Winny was right...

We have all the evidence that pesticides are dangerous, plenty of evidence that they are killing people and making them sick, but we quibble over legalese while we sicken and kill people. That is wrong, no matter where it happens...

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We have many areas of our society that can be improved as does humanity in general. I just tire of the bashing our country receives or our own people "apologizing" to the world for past events.

I think that somehow makes certain folks feel "enlightened" or superior, but it solves nothing.

As I have traveled the world, common people are exceptionally grateful to our generousity and technological advances. I am much more concerned of their opinions than some tweed-jacketed, philosophizing global socialist.

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Lately I think our goverment over here has apologised for about every catastrophy that has occured in the last 500 years world wide.
From slavery to opium dens and plague to infectious deseases via missionaries....it seems us Brits are resposible.
So don't think that you are alone in the fact that our leaders seem to need to seek to apologise for anything and everything.

In fact my point as regards chemicals was that it seemed unusual to me that some of the more ' hazadous ' mixtures were still available to you, when you appear to be more health and safety concious than we over here are. ( Although the H&S brigade do their best to interfere with most aspects of our lives. )

So it begs me to ask....where is the pressure to retain these ' nasties ' coming from?
Is ' Big Buisness ' the culprit?

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I think that's right, Jonas. It does seem to be driven by big industry...

Look at the pesticide ban in Canada. As soon as one little town stuck it's head up, Chemlawn tried to cut it off (world's largest retail based sprayer of pesticide). When they failed, DOw has gone back to challenge the law based on NAFTA,, as they have challenged the EU bans on certain pesticides. While Canada has been successful, our EPA has been stuffed with industry insiders over the past deacde to the point where governmental movement has been brought nearly to a halt; as these are not elected but bureacratic positions, this will likely remain the case for some time...

In the meantime food use recomendations remain in place despite all the mounting evidence and folks that have used this stuff for decades simply point to the fact they aren't dead yet, and it all goes on the same way... :(

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I think that's right, Jonas. It does seem to be driven by big industry...
I feel like it is driven by big business...

Lobbyists, politians, and big businesses...The terms are synonymous are they not? They are all interlinked. You think they make descissions base on what is best for humans? I think not...Proffit driven...business driven.

Pesticide usage, GMS's, CAFO's, petroleum based fertilizers...Our lawmakers know exactly what they are doing! They are informed...and human health, and the health of our planet, is at a lower priorty than stuffing money into pockets.

It's sad, really, what we're doing for our future generations...our children and grandchildren. So many people are so complacent. We do what we do because someone suggested it. We trust L, P, and BB. Then we give people like me strange looks when I talk about the hazards of our actions. It's mainstream to destroy the earth in America...To steal from our future generations...

I know this is off topic, but I felt I needed to respond to the thread...

I too have spots on my may-moes, and mine are definitely from tomato hornworms...AND CUTWORMS!!! and they are trickier to find in my garden. In fact I believe I have a little bit of an infestation starting. I have lots of chewed tomatoes but I have only found 1 THW and 3 cutworms. All were small, and no one was parasitized (is that even a word?)
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Get on the BT. Cured my worm problems.
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I've thought about it...but I am seeing loads beneficials. I walk through masses of bees in every corner. They aren't doing THAT much damage :roll: And I'm sure they'll get big enough to see eventually. I have 56 tomato plants :) I don't mind sharing a few tomatoes. The ones with holes are helping to build my new compost pile :D

I'm just not too keen on spraying anything, just yet...
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Lindsay, Halfway's BT solution is a good one that won't threaten bee or bennies as it is targeted specifically at worms (other than the aesthetic values of butterflies, I am hard pressed to identify a beneficial worm).

As to a solution to the other issue of industrial control of government, talking about it is the first step to eliminating it...

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Hi,

I really believe that looks like catfacing, especially since you say it's only about skin deep. Catfacing is just a deformity and can be cut off and the tomato can be used for eating just fine. I get it every now and then on my large Brandywines and Brandy Boys. It doesn't concern me that much as it's not a disease. Good luck! :D Genie

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Re: SPOTS ON TOMATOES

As far as I know, and this is purely from youtube videos, it seems that your plant is lacking calcium, which prevents this sort of condition in the fruiting of the plant. Egg shells in the soil is supposed to do the trick.
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Re: SPOTS ON TOMATOES

You came in on p3 of a 3 yr old thread and apparently didn't read the rest of it. Calcium (like eggshells, TUMs, epsom salts) is recommended for blossom end rot, which is not what the OP had on their tomato. Blossom end rot is due to calcium deficiency (usually not Ca deficiency in the soil, just the plant's ability to uptake it). Catfacing is not:

https://voices.yahoo.com/garden-tomato-d ... tml?cat=32

And fungal diseases are not aided by adding Ca either. Those seem to be the choices about what was wrong witb that tomato five years ago when the thread started.
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Re: SPOTS ON TOMATOES

Hi all,

Sorry to hijack the thread but I saw this fruit yesterday with small brown spots on it. I went out today and discovered quite a change, has this been eaten or quickly rotted away with in 12 hours?

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B70EG ... BRb1BrR0RN

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