2014 tomato garden -- what varieties are you growing?

[applestar]

So, which tomato varieties are you growing this year?

I've managed to accumulate more tomato variety seeds than I can make a reasoned choice, so I put a check mark next to all the varieties for which I have heard great glowing praises and recommendations, then printed out the entire list, cut them into paper strips of names with my two DD's help, and then we picked 75 check marked ones out of a box.

I'm going to try to limit down to 50 or less varieties to be able to plant more numbers of some of the varieties if I can, but here is the first cut. As you can see, it's very difficult to choose.... We may have to pick "out of a hat" again

UPDATE: Re-organized the list -- some added ( ) some removed. Feels a bit more manageable now, though I may *try* to shave a few more off the main list.

"My personal DTM classification
*Early < 60 days Early = 60's Early-Mid = 65-75 Mid = 70's Mid-Late = 75-85 mLate = 80's "moderately late" Very Late = 85-90+ days"

2014 Tomato Varieties <2 ft 2-3 gal / Winter Trial

C1 42 days Tomato Compact DET RL *Early Red Pointed Cherry
C2 Anmore Treasures 12-24" *Early Grape cherry
C3 Chibikko micro dwarf 12-24" Early-Mid Red Cherry
C4 Hahms Gelbe Topftomate 12-24" *Early Yellow Cherry
C5 Manö Dwf DET PL 24-30" Early-Mid Red Saladette
C6 San Marzano Nano (Bush) 12-24" Mid Red Sausage
C7 Sweet n Neat 12-24" Dwarf DET trailing *Early Red Cherry
C8 Tatjana 12-24" IND *Early Red Saladette
C9 Tiny Tim 12-24" *Early Red Small cherry
C10 Utyonok 12-24" Early Orange Pointed salad
C11 Utyonok 12-24" Early Orange Pointed salad
C12 Yellow Dwarf 12-24" Mid Yellow Salad

2014 Tomato Varieties Dwarf 5 gal / Winter trial

D1 Balkan Tiger F4 Dwf < 4' mLate Pink Small Heart
W Cherokee Tiger F7 Striped Plum Dwf < 4' RUGOSE Early-Mid Brown/Black Saladette Plum
D2 Green Gail, Big (Lillian Marie?) Dwf < 4' RUGOSE SIND PL Very Late Green-Red Bi-color Beefsteak
D3 Jade Beauty Dwf < 4' Early-Mid GWR-C Saladette
D4 Maglia Rosa Compact SDET RL 2-3 ft Early-Mid Pink stripes Elongated cherry
D5 New Big Dwarf Dwarf IND Rugose RL 2-4' Very Late Pink Med-Large beefsteak
W Pit Viper F4 Dwf < 4' mLate Green-Red Bi-color Salad
D6 Rainbow Dwarf Dwf < 4' PL RUGOSE mLate Yellow-Pink Bi-color Salad
D7 Rosella Purple Dwarf 3ft IND rugose RL Mid-Late Purple Beefsteak
D8 Rumplestiltskin F4 Dwf < 4' RUGOSE mLate Yellow Salad
D9 Shadow Boxing Dwf < 4' Mid Red with antho stripes Salad
D10 Shamrock F7 Jackass GWR Dwf < 4' Mid GWR Small beefsteak
D11 Sleeping Lady Dwf < 4' Mid Brown with green shoulders Salad

2014 Tomato Seeds Main

M01 1884 Purple IND RL 4-6' Mid-Late Purple Large Beefsteak
M02 Amethyst Cream RL Early Pale yellow with antho Cherry
M03 "Ananas Noir (Black Pineapple)" IND RL 6'+ Mid-Late Green-Red Bi-color Large beefsteak
M04 Aunt Gertie's Gold IND PL tall Very Late Orange Large Beefsteak
M05 Aunt Ginny's Purple IND PL 6'+ Very Late Purple Large Beefsteak
M06 Berkeley Tie-Dye IND RL Mid-Late green/yellow/red Tri-color Beefsteak
M07 Big Cheef Ind PL Mid Brown/Black Large beefsteak
M08 Big Cheef Stripes Ind PL Mid Brown/Black striped Large beefsteak
M09 Blush IND RL 4-6' Mid Yellow-Pink Bi-color Elongated cherry
M10 Brazilian Beauty IND RL 4-6' Mid Brown/Black Salad
M11 Brian Boru Compact DET RL Red Cherry
M12 Captain Lucky IND PL 6'+ mLate Green-Yellow-Pink tri-color Salad
M13 Chalk's Early Jewel IND Mid Red Salad plum
M14 Cherokee Lime IND RL 6'+ Mid-Late GWR Salad
M15 Cherokee Lime Stripes IND RL 6'+ Mid-Late GWR Salad
M16 Cherry Roma IND RL 4-6' Early-Mid Red Cherry Plum
M17 Dancing with Smurfs IND RL 4-6' Mid Red with antho top Saladette
M18 Dixiewine IND PL mLate Red Large beefsteak
M19 Estler's Mortgage Lifter IND RL 6'+ Very Late Pink XL beefsteak
M20 Faelan's First Snow IND RL 4-6' Mid Purple Medium Beefsteak
M21 Faelan's First Snow IND RL 4-6' Mid Purple Medium Beefsteak
M22 Flathead Monster (Orange Oranguatang?) IND PL 6'+ Mid-Late Orange Beefsteak
M23 Girl Girl's Weird Thing RL IND Mid Brown/Black striped Beefsteak
M24 Grandfather Ashlock IND PL mLate Pink Large beefsteak
M25 Grandma Oliver's Chocolate mLate Brown/Black Lg. Beefsteak
M26 Granny's Heart IND PL 4-6' Mid Red Lg. Heart
M27 Hippie Heart #2 Heart
M28 "INDIAN STRIPE [BURSON STRAIN]/INDIAN ZEBRA" Mid Purple Beefsteak
M29 Jersey Devil IND RL mLate Red Medium Sausage
M30 Jim Dandy (Jumbo Jim PL) IND PL 6'+ Very Late Orange Beefsteak
M31 Liz Birt (Purple) Ind, PL mid Purple Large beefsteak
M32 Malinowe Zebra (Raspberry Zebra) Kozula#137 Pink stripes
M33 "Malkhitovaya Shkatulka (Malachite Box) IND RL large Mid GWR light yellow bottom Beefsteak
M34 McKinley IND RL 4-6' Mid Pink Large beefsteak
M35 Neves Azorean Red IND RL Mid-late Red Med-large globe
M36 Not Purple Strawberry IND RL Mid-Late Brown/Black Heart
M37 Primrose Gage IND RL 4-6' Mid-Late Yellow Saladette
M38 Prudens Purple (big fruit) IND PL Early-Mid Pink skin/red flesh Large Beefsteak
M39 Rebel Yell F6 Tall IND PL Mid Pink beefsteak
M40 Royal Hillbilly IND RL 4-6' Very Late Yellow-Pink Bi-color Large beefsteak
M41 Russian Rose IND RL 6'+ Mid-Late Pink Large beefsteak
M42 Scarlet Knight IND RL 4-6' Mid Red Saladette
M43 Spudatula IND PL Mid Brown/Black Beefsteak
M44 Stump of the World IND PL Very Late Pink beefsteak
M45 Submarine Blush IND RL 4-6' Early-Mid Yellow with Pink stripes cherry submarine
M46 Terhune Ind pl Mid Pink Beefsteak
M47 Tidewell German IND PL 6'+ mLate Red Large beefsteak
M48 Todd County Amish IND PL 6'+ Mid-Late Purple X Large beefsteak
M49 Tom Boy P.L. F3 IND PL 6'+ Early-Mid Pink Large beefsteak
M50 Variegated PL x Striped Big Cheef IND PL 4-6' Mid Purple Medium beefsteak
M51 Virginia Sweets IND Mid-Late yellow with orange Bi-color Large beefsteak
M52 Wapsipinicon Peach IND Mid-late "Pale yellow orange yellow" Saladette
M53 Wes IND RL mLate Red Medium-Large Heart
M54 WMD Pink Semi-DET 5' RL Mid-Late Pink X Large beefsteak
M55 Yellow Brandywine IND PL Mid Yellow Large Beefsteak
M56 Zluta Kytice IND RL 6'+ Early-Mid Orange Grape Cherry
V Coyote IND RL large prostrate *early Pale Yellow Small Cherry
V Matt's Wild Cherry IND RL Early Red Small Cherry

[hendi_alex]

I don't even try to keep up any more. Each Season I buy several packs of new seeds and then just dump them into community category packs which include seeds from previous seasons. We have community packs called: black, determinate, big hybrid, Roma, cherry/grape, large salad, yellow, green, extra disease resistant. At planting time a few seeds are taken from each pack, but the exact varieties are totally random. I've never harvested a summer grown tomato that we didn't like.

[applestar]

Yep -- I remember. The trouble with that method is you can't tell others which variety it is either. I guess you CAN share by giving away the seeds from a fruit IF you take the extra trouble to save them separately, but you won't know its variety name and you don't know which specific seedling you are growing....

Also, if there is an outcross in your garden, deviating from the original, you won't know that either and won't be able to identify the "new" variety that has been created.

I kind of can't help but to feel like relegating the varieties to anonymity is a disservice to the folks who have grown and selected for specific characteristics over a number of years to develop specific varieties, ya know?

...but it would certainly alleviate the pre-season anxiety

[imafan26]

Great list. I only recognize a few. I look forward to your report on how they did and taste. I only have space for three at a time and maybe two to three cyles a year. 9 tomatoes tops. But that is o.k., the ones I really like, I keep planting again. The ones I don't, I will give it one more try, to make sure it wasn't something I did then never again if it is the same.

[digitS']

2 or 3 cycles??!

Alex! I can just imagine that "devil may care" moment . . . or, is it that "devil take the hindmost" moment?

I can't quite do it, I am sure. Although, there was that season when I was trying "tree tags" on bamboo stakes and after that windstorm . . . a confusion all, umm, cycle out there in the tomato patch!

Here is a way that I could really feel okay, start to finish: grow only the ones that would feel like old friends. I could lose all the tags and still, things would likely turn out just fine. I could even go with Alex's approach and just not toss a single sprout! Nothing new, nothing I wasn't already familiar with! Me and my friends .

Applestar, provenance would make a good deal of difference if I had a whole bevy of choices to make. The more I imagined I knew, the better. That and a catchy name!

Steve

[phonelady61]

I'm growing all dwarfs red robin , hahms gelbe , window box roma , bushy chabrovsky , sweet pea currant (this is a new one for me ) so I don't know how the sweet pea will work I hope good also growing tumbling tom yellow and red and garden pearl ...pray that all of these grow . thanks .

[phonelady61]

well I only have the space for the 12 -24 inch varietys of the dwarfs because I live in an apt and no outside space which I'm hoping to correct in a couple of months .

[hendi_alex]

Planting individual names just got too cumbersome. After all, gotta have 3-5 of each variety, just to make sure each survives and gives enough production. Then have to try out 4-5 new varieties each year. Ends up being at least 25-30 varieties. Times 5, that is as many as 150 plants! Problem is, we have trouble handling more than about 40 plants. By planting categories, it is pretty east to hold things down to 40-50 plants overall.

[PaulF]

It is impossible for me not to know what is being planted, how many tomatoes each plant produces, how much each fruit weighs, etc. etc. I even have yearly journals dating back the 15 years I have been growing OP/heirloom tomatoes with all that information. When growing hybrids the 25 years before that, I didn't care what happened. Call me an anal tomato snob but so be it. Here is my list for this year. I am growing out all the oldest seeds in my collection to either refresh or retire varieties.


BLACK

BLACK OXHEART (BRAD'S BLACK HEART)
CHEROKEE PURPLE

ORANGE

KELLOGG’S BREAKFAST
KELLOGGS BREAKFAST POTATO LEAF (KBX)
ORANGE RUSSIAN 117

ORNAMENTAL
VARIEGATED

PINK

LARGE PINK BULGARIAN
MAMMOTH SANDWICH
PAUL’S PINK PRIDE
KARDINAL
SOLDACKI
GIANT SYRIAN
GERMAN JOHNSON
ASHLEIGH
SWEETHEART
BERKELEY TIE DYE

RED

ANDREW RAHARTS JUMBO RED
HAWAIIAN CHERRY
BRANDYWINE(OFF THE VINE)
GREGORI’S ALTAI
EARLY ROUGE
EARLIANA
FOX CHERRY
RUSSIAN APPLE TREE
FAN 3
INGEGNOLI GIGANTE LISCIO
TURKEY CHOMP
RED PEAR CHERRY
TATAR OF MONGOLISTAN
ZOGOLA
ERNESTO
WES
OLEYAR’S GERMAN
OLD FASHIONED OXHEART
JULIE’S RED OXHEART
COEUR DE VALOURS
SYLVAN GAUME

YELLOW

AUNT GERTIES GOLD
LILLIAN’S YELLOW HEIRLOOM
YELLOW BRANDYWINE (PLATFOOT STRAIN)
TOM’S YELLOW WONDER
LUCKY CROSS


INTERNATIONAL DWARF PROJECT

BRANDYFRED F6
IVALDE
DWARF GOLDEN HEART

[digitS']

No tomato seed will go into the starting mix for another couple of weeks but what I have gotten it down to, so far:

Dr. Carolyn
Ildi
Isis Candy*
Pink Bumble Bee*
Bloody Butcher
Kimberley
Woodle Orange
Buisson
Pink Pearls
Dagma’s Perfection
Casey’s Pure Yellow
Kellogg’s Breakfast
Azoychka*
Sioux*
Prudens Purple
Gary O Sena
Brandywine OTV
Legend
Thessaloniki
Pantano Romano
Neves Azorean Red*
San Marzano*

Hybrids

Super Sweet 100
Sweet Chelsea
Sun Sugar
Sungold
Goliath
Early Girl
Big Beef

*The new-to-me varieties, however, I have several experimental crosses, both intended & unintended, that will be in the garden. Hopefully, they are on their way to stabilizing.

So, that is 29 "named" varieties and several "experimentals." Not all of these are likely to be in my garden. I give plants to 3 neighbors. Between them, they get more than twice what I have. I'm always in their gardens and can keep track of anything I can't fit into my 60-plant tomato patch. They tend to get the new-to-me varieties for the trial runs. he he . . .

Steve

[grrlgeek]

I thought I might have bitten off more than I can chew, but seeing the lists above makes my selections seem so much more manageable!

Tomato:
Black Krim
Black Plum
Cherokee Purple
Cream Sausage
Gilbertie Paste
Green Sausage
*Hartman's Gooseberry
*Heinz 2653
*Indigo Kumquat
Indigo Ruby
Marvel Striped
Orange Icicle
Roma VF Paste
Tumbling Tiger
Yellow Pear

*[having trouble getting these 3 varieties to sprout. they come up, barely; are sickly thin and white, then fall over, and shrivel up. a second try is on the heat mat now. if they fail again, they're off the list for this year.]

Tomatillo:
De Milpa
Toma Verde

Tomatoes starting August for a season extension / greenhouse experiment:
Beaverlodge 6806 Plum
Bison
Early Cherry
Sub Arctic Plenty
Tatjana

[imafan26]

I tried Isis candy a couple of times. It is supposed to be sweet. It may do better in your climate. They did not seem to like hot and humid. Too much disease.

I usually grow one cherry and two slicers.

right now I have terenzo tomato. It is a dwarf and an AAS winner. It is disease resistant. It has tomatoes now, just waiting to see what they taste like. That is if the rain doesn't kill it.

The second tomato is a next generation tomato that came out of sungold. It is not as sweet but it doesn't crack either. And it is not bitter when it is green. That is a keeper for me. It also decided it did not need the pot anymore and is just growing wild on my path. The third container right now has snow peas growing in it and a couple of tendergreen cucumbers. I haven't decided what to put in that one yet.

[MB3]

TOMATO VARIETY
these are already in cells:
2007 #1 (Med. Burgundy Round Fruit)
2007 #3 (?)
2010 "Heirloom Seeds 10/10"
Amazon Chocolate
Box Car Willie
Georgetta's Friend's Tomato
Large Red Cherry
Mrs. D*s Tomato / Jonathan D*s Mom's Garden
Red Barn
Rutgers
San Marzano (?)
Striped German Tomato
.....

I want to add more in, but need to carefully plan these,
I also lots of different 2013 saved seeds from mystery heirlooms and OP crosses I have been growing and saving seeds from off and on for a long time, many generations. Some are getting really good and interesting Sadly the best ones were really late and didn't produce much fruit before earlier frost than in years hit. they may not be big producers anyhow. Also may go back to more of the older saved seeds from 2007 and the like. But last year I had some really tasty dark purples and blacks and dark greens and stripeys and multi-colored flesh and stuff I want to grow out from these this year.

--------------

MOST OF THESE ARE NEW TO ME!
I have, in the past mostly had only mystery heirlooms which were passed to me by friends (either as seed or tomato), or saved by me from store/market-bought heirlooms, or I did big name hybrids or other Burpee seeds, which never pleased me too much.
Unfortunately I no longer have seeds or saved seeds of the offspring from my earliest gardening exploits in the mid-late 90s. My earliest ones go back to ten years later, 2007.

[applestar]

Last year, I started the very late maturing varieties a week to 10 days earlier than the main group. They got so big I had to uppot into bottom of 20-24 oz soda cups and plastic bottles, and take them in and out every day, and they were mostly blooming and set fruits by the time they were planted -- but they definitely produced earlier.

[MB3]

as I said, I need to trim my list down for the next round of cell drops. I am sure some more will get added, but mostly it needs trimmed.
I probably should keep it to no more than 12 more varieties, but impulse control will be tough when I have so many new ones to try out. my space is limited, so I think many of the next set of drops should be dwarfs for either garden or bucket.

either way, I see my parents and other people inheriting lots of seedlings, especially if some varieties have really good germination rates on what I drop. I can't do loads of each variety, most not more than one plant.

[rainbowgardener]

So far I have planted Better Boy hybrid, Early Cherry, and Stupice.

Other tom seeds I have on hand are Momotaro hybrid, AAA solano, Red Barn, Goose Creek Pink, Big Cheef 8, Spudatula (except for the first couple they are left overs from what gixxerific sent me last year, thanks gixx!). I ordered Red Boar from the webmaster's giveaway. Not for sure if they will all get planted, but I will try. Most of them will get given to the plant sale. I will have room for the three planted already, the Momotaro and one or two more -- if I do one plant per variety.

[digitS']

Gifting plants is a good idea. I realise that I said 3 neighbors but last year it was 4.

She got, I think it was, 4 plants. In a 200sqft greenhouse with saved seed, that is nothing. But, in her tiny garden on the other side of the fence , it wasn't difficult for me to keep track of those plants.

I hope she is happy to try some new things this year. Even if I have purchased a packet of a new-to-me, no way am I gonna commit the garden space on "my" side to 30 unknown plants! Maybe 1 or 2. Will she risk some of her space? She might. If the plants are free .

Steve

[ion]

Right now, I have -

Djena Lee's Golden Girl
Golden Queen (USDA)
Healani
Early Girl
Better Boy
Margo (F3)
Tess Land Race Currant, TLRC
?TLRC unknown (could be TLRC or a cross, F2)
Margo(F2)x ?TLRC unknown
?Margo (F2) x yellow/white currant
Brandywine (Pink)
Campari (F2)
Tycoon (F3)
SunGold

And a few no-name plants. I'll add more varieties and crosses throughout the year.

[applestar]

UPDATED/Re-organized the list in OP -- some more varieties added ( ) some removed. Feels a bit more manageable now, though I may *try* to shave a few more off the main list.

[Ozark Lady]

Wow!
I thought that I had a lot of tomato seeds, but I see a lot that I am not familiar with, or not personally familiar with.
Imagine if we all save seeds and share them equally so we all have the same... we would have hundreds, maybe thousands of varieties. Picking would definitely be challenging quickly!
I want to grow all of the seeds I have on hand and try some more... oh the individual descriptions in forums, and the photos and descriptions in the catalogs... I think that I am a tomato seed junky!
I don't think that I will list the ones that I am planting in seed pots, I will wait until they are garden ready and see what survived to get a spot in my garden.

I do try to keep my plants identified and bag the blooms to keep the seeds pure... but, I have the odd seedling that is soooo healthy and I lost the name tag, or mixed two and it is either or...
And then, we have the seeds.... during the fermenting, I have been known to find all the labels blown off the counter, and I have no idea what goes to what.... but they are too good to not keep! So, these get a name like: Mystery 1, 2012 and then list the possibilities. I don't usually share these, they are private grow outs.
That said, I have a pure line and I have a "landrace" of sorts. Did I mention, that fantastic tomato you tasted and just loved, and couldn't get a name for it... but you saved the seeds anyhow? Oh yeah!

[applestar]

Actually up and growing seedlings so far

...plus Cherokee Tiger Striped Plum, Pit Viper, and seedlings from MIL (Yellow Brandywine, Park's Whopper F2, and a purple or dark variety that may or may not be Cherokee Purple... possibly Prudens Purple... or else one of the Wild Boar giveaways so maybe Black and Brown Boar -- she lost the tag but she's sure it was one of the varieties I gave her one year and it tasted delicious).

I also sowed Coyote (not) and Earl's Green Cherry (not) ...could not help myself...

Coyote (not) grew in my Winter Indoor from last summer harvested Coyote seed and has clear epi light orange blushed with pink skin reminiscent of Jaune Flammée when ripe with strong acid not sweet full tomato flavor.

Earl's Green Cherry (not) came from a packet of seeds marked Earl's Green Cherry. Some of the plants bore what appears to be true EGC. (Not) was early but maybe slightly later than true EGC but with fruits that were large cherry almost saladette size when fused, with multiple locule cross section like mini beefsteak. Red fruit/yellow epi with star sapphire pattern at blossom end, full tangy tomato flavor flesh and surprisingly sweet and tasty skin. Most likely an accidental bee cross -- source of seeds also found similar off types in his patch last summer.

[digitS']

Have seed in soil as of this week! It feels late but the snow has only just left my yard after being here since early December. And, recent seasons have found me desperately trying to slow the tomatoes because cool spring weather has lingered into late May.

All of the larger, later varieties were started. They will get a second go as soon as I have any idea about their germination. By then, it will be time for the quicker varieties. All of these will move from "community containers" to 4-packs, to 3" or 4" pots.

Steve

[applestar]

Sprouted so far -- at least one of

1 42 days Tomato
2 Amethyst Cream
3 Ananas Noir (Black Pineapple)
4 Anmore Treasures
5 Balkan Tiger F4
6 Berkeley Tie-Dye [Heart]
7 Blush
8 Brazilian Beauty
9 Brian Boru
10 Captain Lucky
11 Cherokee Lime
12 Cherokee Lime Stripes
13 Chibikko micro dwarf
14 Coyote x Jaune Flammée
15 Dancing with Smurfs
16 Earl's Green Cherry (not)
17 Faelan's First Snow F3
18 Flathead Monster (Orange Orangutan?)
19 Girl Girl's Weird Thing
20 Grandma Oliver's Chocolate
21 Granny's Heart
22 Green Gail, Big (Lillian Marie?)
23 Hahms Gelbe Topftomate
24 INDIAN STRIPE [BURSON STRAIN]/INDIAN ZEBRA
25 Jade Beauty
26 Jersey Devil
27 Liz Birt (Purple)
28 Maglia Rosa
29 Malkhitovaya Shkatulka "Malachite Box"
30 Manö
31 McKinley
32 New Big Dwarf
33 Not Purple Strawberry
34 Primrose Gage
35 Prudens Purple (big fruit)
36 Rainbow Dwarf
37 Rebel Yell F6
38 Rosella Purple
39 Royal Hillbilly
40 Rumplestiltskin F4
41 Russian Rose
42 San Marzano Nano (Bush)
43 Scarlet Knight
44 Sleeping Lady
45 Stump of the World
46 Sweet n Neat
47 Tatjana
48 Terhune
49 Tidwell German
50 Tiny Tim
51 Utyonok (Gixx)
52 Utyonok (Sylvia)
53 Variegated PL x Striped Big Cheef F3#3
54 Wes
55 WMD Pink
56 Yellow Dwarf

[PlainJane]

Wow - it's fascinating seeing what others are planting. I'd love to do more, but for now it's:

Pink Berkeley Tie Dye (striped)

Porkchop (yellow)

Chocolate Stripes (another striped)

Indigo Apple (blue)

Growing in 30 gal. fabric Smart Pots to try to increase air circulation and keep the roots cooler. (And foil the nematodes! )

[mattie g]

I still don't have a starting setup, so I ordered mine again this year (from a new supllier though), and am hoping they'll be here in about three weeks or so. I've ordered:

Amish Paste (2)
Rose de Berne (2)
Brandywine - Suddath's (1)
Black Krim (1)
San Marzano (1)
Jersey Devil (1)

Amish Paste did great for me last year, so I'm going back to the well on them. I ordered Rose de Berne because of their similarity to Eva Purple Ball, which was incredible for me last year (harvested into November!), but the supplier didn't have them. I've cut back on the San Marzanos by one, as I'm tired of losing so many to BER later in the season, and replaced them with Jersey Devil just for somthing new. I had Black Krim a couple seasons ago, and it did OK, and Brandywines have generally done quite well for me.

With how chilly it's been so far this spring, I just hope I don't have to wait too trerribly long to plant. Long-range forecasts for mid-April on are looking promising, though!

[applestar]

I started a couple more varieties -- one that I really really wanted to grow -- Zluta Kytice is a garden swallowing monster of a multi flora that didn't sprout, and Dwarf Shadow Boxing. So a new screenshot of the tomato seedling map as of today:

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[JayPoc]

Ok...I'll play. Still a month or a little longer before I can plant them. I started 2 each Lehrer Tomates and Grandma Oliver's Chocolate about a month ago, and they're doing great. Today, I started a bigger batch. I'll do another round in a few weeks. Started today were:

Sgt. Peppers F4
Yellow dragon
Supersweet 100VF (2 of these)
German Johnson
Brandywine
Cherokee Purple
and my mystery potato leaf volunteer from last year

[digitS']

My plants are coming along okay. I have moved most varieties out of their community containers and into 4-packs.

I can report some corrections: First off, it is Pantano Romanesco not Romano. I guess I was doing a lot of thinking about paste tomatoes. And, I decided that San Marzano may require more weeks than I've got so I went with a determinate, Heinz 2653. This will only be the second time that I have grown a paste variety.

I can serve as a warning for those who choose to save seed . . . I've been doing that for my grandmother's tomato for about 20 years but didn't even know which varieties in my garden were hybrids and which I could save seed from until I became interested in the Thessaloniki tomato. It did fine when I first grew it about 10 years ago. Over the next couple of seasons, I saved seed . . . a lot of seed! So much seed that it didn't seem to make any sense to save any more.

Until now! That seed is so old that I didn't think I was gonna get any Thessaloniki plants this year. In about twice the number of days that the others needed to sprout: They finally showed up! With my less-than-pristine techniques - New Seed Frequently!

A different seed problem with the Casey's, which I was so pleased with the last several years. Good thing if I can buy that seed for 2015 because I sure didn't realize that I had none for sowing this year!

Steve
If you can't be a good example then you'll just have to be a horrible warning. ~ Catherine Aird

[Turkeytrack]

Has any one heard of holy cross tomatoes or does it go by another name ?

[gixxerific]

Too many to list and too early to tell. Ill get back to you Apple.

[applestar]

"too early to tell" -- wisdom in your words, Gixx

After some significant trouble I had with getting them to germinate -- not the seed fault: more likely the sudden dips into low overnight temp, generally lower germination temp than intended, and possibly spraying the surface with straight peroxide after mold started to grow very early on -- I have these seedlings growing.

(good news is that the numbers are much more manageable than the recklessly ambitious quantity I started with ...Feeling really badly that I couldn't get some of those failed seeds to grow, but there is always next year )

Variety Q'ty
1 42 days Tomato 2
2 Amethyst Cream 1
3 Ananas Noir "Black Pineapple" 1
4 Anmore Treasures 2
5 Balkan Tiger F4 2
6 Berkeley Tie-Dye [Heart] 1
7 Blush 1
8 Brazilian Beauty 2
9 Brian Boru 1
10 Captain Lucky 2
11 Cherokee Lime 1
12 Cherokee Lime Stripes 1
13 Chibikko micro dwarf 1
14 Coyote (not) [x Jaune Flammée?] 2
15 Dancing with Smurfs 2
16 Dixiewine 1
17 Earl's Green Cherry (not) 2
18 Faelan's First Snow 3
19 Flathead Monster "Orange Orangutan?" 1
20 Girl Girl's Weird Thing 1
21 Grandma Oliver's Chocolate 3
22 Granny's Heart 2
23 Green Gail [Big] "Lillian Marie?" 2
24 Hahms Gelbe Topftomate 2
25 Indian Zebra [Burson] "Indian Stripe Burson strain" 1
26 Jade Beauty 1
27 Jersey Devil 2
28 Liz Birt (Purple) 2
29 Maglia Rosa 1
30 Malkhitovaya Shkatulka "Malachite Box" 1
31 Manö 1
32 McKinley 2
33 New Big Dwarf 1
34 Not Purple Strawberry 1
35 Primrose Gage 1
36 Prudens Purple [big fruit] 1
37 Rainbow Dwarf 3
38 Rebel Yell F6 2
39 Rosella Purple 2
40 Royal Hillbilly 1
41 Rumplestiltskin F4 1
42 Russian Rose 1
43 San Marzano Nano [Bush] 2
44 Scarlet Knight 1
45 Shadow Boxing Dwarf (Ellie)
46 Shamrock F7 "Jackass GWR "1
47 Sleeping Lady 1
48 Stump of the World 1
49 Sweet n Neat 1
50 Tatjana 1
51 Terhune 4
52 Tidwell German 2
53 Tiny Tim 1
54 Utyonok (Gixx) 2
55 Utyonok (Sylvia) 1
56 Variegated PL x Striped Big Cheef F3#3 1
57 Wes 2
58 WMD Pink 1
59 Yellow Brandywine <TBD>
60 Yellow Dwarf 2
61 Zluta Kytice 1
62 Park's Whopper F2 6
63 "Brandy" <TBD>
Total 94(+TBD)

[gixxerific]

Great list Apple, I see a bunch from me, good to see they made it, you will not be disappointed. Thinking of few in particular.

If the yellow dwarf was from me it is a tiny plant foot or less. It would be well suited in probably a gallon planter though 2 would be better.

Good luck

[Juliuskitty]

Great to see your list Apple. Delighted to see germination of at least 2 that were of concern. Have a wonderful growing season.

[taradal]

I just received seedlings from a friend. Her husband grows tomatoes and he sent me some of his extras. Four of his seedlings are labeled "Amanda's Brother". Apparently, he has a friend, Amanda, whose brother has been growing this variety from seed for years. From what she could describe, they are fairly small, (maybe golf ball size or a bit smaller?) red, a little pointy on the end, and absolutely delicious! Can't wait to see what is produced-I plan to post photos and maybe someone on this list can help me with an id.

[applestar]

Oooh! Looking forward to hearing more!

[feldon30]

This is my first year growing in South Carolina after 4 years growing in Houston, so I am playing it a bit safe this year. We'll see how things go and maybe I'll be more adventurous next year...

• {Arkansas} Traveler
• Big Beef
• Cherokee Purple
• Earl's Faux
• Gregori's Altai
• Hege German Pink
• Jet Star
• JD's Special C-Tex
• Kalman's Hungarian Pink
• Neves Azorean Red
• Pink Berkeley Tie Dye
• Summer Cider/Aunt Gertie's Gold
• Sungold
• Stump of the World
• Sweet Quartz
• Tony's Italian
• Wes

Out of those, Kalman's Hungarian Pink and Tony's Italian are oxheart/plum and Wes is a large oxheart. JD's Special C-Tex is a purple (along with Cherokee Purple of course). Sweet Quartz is an amazing pink cherry. Everyone knows Sungold is a monstrously productive orange cherry. Jet Star, Big Beef, and Arkansas Traveler are medium oblate tomatoes. And the rest are pretty much all beefsteaks. Can't wait!

[applestar]

I tried to grow Aunt Gertie's Gold (is it also known as Summer Cider? I think I did see that mentioned at Tatiana's TB) but it was one of the group of seeds that didn't germinate, and since it's grouped in Very Late in my notes, I decided it was too late by the time I decided to throw in a few last minute re-seeds.

Have you grown it before? I've heard good reviews but this was my first time (trying).

[feldon30]

I tried to grow Aunt Gertie's Gold (is it also known as Summer Cider? I think I did see that mentioned at Tatiana's TB) but it was one of the group of seeds that didn't germinate, and since it's grouped in Very Late in my notes, I decided it was too late by the time I decided to throw in a few last minute re-seeds.

Have you grown it before? I've heard good reviews but this was my first time (trying).

At this point it's anecdotal evidence that AGG and SC are the same, from flavor to plant habit to DTM. They just seem very similar. In the next few years when at-home genetic testing of plants becomes affordable, I think we will see a reduction in duplicates.

I've never grown it, but I've tasted a few. It just stands above other orange tomatoes for me as far as being zippy and full-flavored. I've got ONE seedling of it that I hope does well.

[Juliuskitty]

Hi Mr M. It's me! Welcome to this forum. Your wealth of knowledge will be so helpful here.

Respectfully,
You know who!

[PunkRotten]

All I got going right now is:

Black Krim
San Marzano
Stupice
Red Robin
Totem

If I see something interesting at a nursery or even Home Depot/Lowes I may get it. I am kinda slowing down with tomatoes. Some of you grow big lists, I am that way with Chiles. Chiles get more love in my garden than tomatoes.