hardland
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An issue with my Florida winter tomatoes, with pics.

I started 10 plants from seed back in September, they went in the final 9 gallon pots about 3 weeks ago, using a potting mix I have used before. I noticed about 10 days ago the new growth was a lime green, that turned to yellow, then brown. The plants are still alive, but I don't think thriving. I treat every 7 days with liquid copper and every 7 days with a compost tea I make, don't want to lose the plants. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks
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It appears you have a slight case of Leaf Roll also. Take a look at this site.
https://cru.cahe.wsu.edu/CEPublications/PNW616/PNW616.pdf

I'm thinking it maybe fertilizer burn.

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Thanks DDFarm, a very good link for reference. I hope it is leaf roll, seems like it's not fatal. Maybe I was a bit generous with the fertlizer in original pots.

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I guess I should back off on the fertilizer for a while.
My mix for 9 gallon containers is: 1/2 cup Bone meal, 1/2 cup blood meal, 1/2 cup calcitic lime, 1/2 cup tomato tone( 2-4-7), 1 cup of worm castings and 4 cups Black cow composted cow manure, I'm curious what I should remove from the mix?

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Everything you list is fertilizer, mostly high nitrogen. But it is not enough to fill a 9 gallon container. Do you have some actual topsoil, potting soil, peat moss, etc in there?

Even if the rest is topsoil, it's a pretty rich mix. If the rest is potting soil that has Miracle Gro or something in it, then you are way over fertilized.

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Yes, those components only make up about 6 cups, the base mix is Fafard 3b, an organic potting mix with no ferilizer, just pine bark, peat moss, etc. 9 galls = 1200oz. 6 cups = 48oz. I think I will just add some bone meal and a little Calc lime for calcium, take out the rest from the mix?

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Fafard 3B Mix


Canadian Sphagnum Peat Moss (50%), processed pine bark, perlite, starter nutrients, wetting agent & Dolomitic limestone.
Bulk density: 11 to 14 lbs.
pH range: 5.5 to 6.5 after wetting.
Use for: Cuttings, seeds, bedding plants, hanging baskets, flowering plants, foliage & interiorscapes

Looks like it has fertilizer of some type.
Nutrient Starter Charge:
Fafard routinely provides a balanced, water soluble nutrient starter charge to all its media. Our nutrient starter charge provides a dilute, balanced nutritional environment for seed germination and/or early seedling growth. In our peat media our nutrient starter charge will provide sufficient fertility for 7-14 days. However, we do recommend grower application of a dilute, complete fertilizer (50-100 ppm) at wet down or immediately after plant germination or transplanting.
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Thanks eric, I had no idea it had any starter nutrients, I should just back of fertilizer completely, then add some low nitrogen after 14 days.

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my grandfather taught me, circa mid 1950's:

put the tomatoes in the poorest part of the garden.

natively, it's a weed; since selectively bred to a weed with tasty doohickies hanging off . . .

too much "good environment" often produces a wonderful weed plant but not a long of wonderful weed fruit.

so....less can be more - I'd concur the TLC might be a bit over the top.

what was the point with the "liquid copper?"
copper is a fungicide; no fungus attack, no need. . . .
winter = drier RH = generally accepted less fungal disease.....
leaving me puzzled.

hardland
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Every year down here in FL we have an issue with fungus and disease, I use Liqu copper to treat. when I saw the condition in pictuers, I treated with liq cop because I thought it was fung/disease. a lot of people use Liq copper as a preventative.

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In Miami, I usually get bacterial leaf spot. I also get leaf miner and spider mites and occasionally whitefly. Little else.

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Be careful with the copper too much can be toxic.

https://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/profiles/ex ... e-ext.html



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