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i only plant my micro tomatoes that i actually plant just barely covered with soil. the ones i grow in the forest garden for myself i just toss out micro toms and where they land i get tomatoes next year. you must be trying too hard, it happens to me all the time then i realize and im just like DUH!
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I think I will see it tomorrow. I cleared away some more soil carefully and can see the sprout about to pop up out of the soil. I left it slightly exposed to the air. And I left it in a sunny spot too.

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hey can you guys recommend somewhere I can buy a packet of micro-tom and a packet of red robin online? i really want to grow both of these varieties as soon as possible.

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I got mine at tradewindsfruitstore.com

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very cool site. i'll probably grab some from there. any help with the red robbin tomatoes? unfortunately that site doesnt sell them

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I normally start seeds on a heat mat and it takes 3-4 day's normally.

I was just test sprouting some saved seeds outside and it took a few weeks. It was hot during the day but cooler at night. I thought they were bunk than right before I was going to compost the soil they sprouted. So give them time.

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I like to start my seed in damp coffee filters, in a baggie on top of the fridge. then I know I have good seed when I see the root forming then I plant it.

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mcubb wrote:hey can you guys recommend somewhere I can buy a packet of micro-tom and a packet of red robin online? i really want to grow both of these varieties as soon as possible.
You can buy both at Tomato Growers Supply.

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My micro tom is at 2 inches and already producing a few flowers! Amazing!

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Please post the taste of these. I have heard from several people in the tomato world that simply detest them.

Hopefully this is not the case for you.

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I have heard both. Some people say it is horrible, and some say it is good. The thing is though, some of the people who thought it was horrible were thinking these were like cherry tomatoes and comparing it to them.

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PunkRotten wrote:I have heard both. Some people say it is horrible, and some say it is good. The thing is though, some of the people who thought it was horrible were thinking these were like cherry tomatoes and comparing it to them.
Well, they are cherry tomatoes , not currant tomatoes which are another species of tomato, and there's a huge range of tastes amongst the many hundreds of cherry tomatoes that are available.

I haven't grown Micro-Tom, but I have grown Red Robin b/c a friend, Chuck Wyatt, now deceased, used to send me several plants for Xmas each year and I'd grow them on top of a radiator that was in front of a window and they tasted pretty darn good for plants just grown in the winter from natural light here in the tundra.

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Please post the taste of these. I have heard from several people in the tomato world that simply detest them.

Hopefully this is not the case for you.
i can vouch for the ones i have, they are delicious. real sweet.
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Well it appears my plant is about to put out its first tomato. I've been taking pics of the plant periodically. I will take another pic once it has some tomatoes on it. The disappointing thing is I don't think it is going to get any bigger. It is about at 2 inches and has 1 flower cluster with about 5-6 flowers and then another with about 3-4 smaller flowers. And it does not look like it is going to be growing any more stems. I know it is a determinate variety but I was expecting maybe a few more inches.


Anyway I will probably start another plant right after this one, I may even do 2 of them.

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PunkRotten wrote:Well it appears my plant is about to put out its first tomato. I've been taking pics of the plant periodically. I will take another pic once it has some tomatoes on it. The disappointing thing is I don't think it is going to get any bigger. It is about at 2 inches and has 1 flower cluster with about 5-6 flowers and then another with about 3-4 smaller flowers. And it does not look like it is going to be growing any more stems. I know it is a determinate variety but I was expecting maybe a few more inches.


Anyway I will probably start another plant right after this one, I may even do 2 of them.
The Micro part of the name refers to the height of the plant, not the fruits as I said in a post above and the final height should be about 5-9 inches tall. Yes, quite micro. :lol:

So you should get a few more inches out of it. It was bred by Dr. Scott at the U of FL who has bred many tomato varieties and a couple of them almost that micro as I recall.

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well it seems i have been confused. the tomatoes i grow are called "spoon" tomatoes. not micro and are not determinate. they are indeterminate and grow very small tomatoes, and TONS of them. the plants get up to 8 ft tall ( possibly more)
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soil wrote:well it seems i have been confused. the tomatoes i grow are called "spoon" tomatoes. not micro and are not determinate. they are indeterminate and grow very small tomatoes, and TONS of them. the plants get up to 8 ft tall ( possibly more)
Spoon is a generic name that was given to the red currant tomatoes that were offered by Park Seed many years ago.

They were so named b'c the picture showed them resting in a SPOON. LOL

Not that much different than any of the other red currant varieties, some named, some not. And yes, all the various currant ones are rangy and indeterminate with somewhat lighter foliage than most other varieties and also having very hairy stems.

My favorite of the red currants is one named Sara's Galapagos which is a stable interspecies cross between a currant and something else found on a specific island in the Galapagos, so not a true currant but fruit size and all else are the same as other currants and I find Sara's to be better than other currant varieties I've grown, especially the taste.

When you save seeds just pop them open with your hands and throw them into your fermentation container and add water to cover. the seeds will leach out, as it were, and just let the fermentation proceed normally.

This past Satruday I just finished processing some supposed PINK currants someone sent me from FL and I was interested b'c the only other PINK currant I know of was offered long ago by Tim Peters of Peters Seed and Research, and now he's gone, out of business and the pink currant with him.

The pink ones could just be an epidermis mutation from the red since a yellow epidermis makes a fruit look red while a mutation to a clear epidermis changes the exterior color to pink. But still, I don't know of any pink currants out there right now.

Carolyn, who has those seeds drying now.

I told me FL contact to jsut smush up a few and put put them in a strong zip-lok container and they arrived suitably Smushed. :lol:

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i don't even plant them anymore, they are like a weed lol. i find the flavor to be excellent. i usually make mini sundried tomatoes with them, perfect for pizza, salad, pasta, snacking, anything. no need to slice them just dry whole.

ill have to look into the Galapagos ones.
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https://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Sara%27s_Galapagos

When looking up almost any tomato variety it's best to go to Tania's site before ever thinking of Googling them.

Tania gives lots of pictures of this one and if you scroll down you'll find the seed sites that list it.

Jeff Casey has it listed now, Tania is out for 2011, it is quite popular, and TGS,( Tomato Growers Supply) has it, and Sandhill Preservation doesn't take orders until after the first of the year. THe last two sites, except for maybe TGS and Jeff's site, list way over 400 tomato varieties and when you have time it might be a good idea to take a look and see what they offer.

Adding to what Tania said at her website, I had asked Amy to bring me back some seeds of S. cheesmanii, the salt tolernt one, and when she got back she sent me whole fruits of what she'd already named Sara's Galapagos and I knew SP it wasn'tcheesmanni, whichis orange. I took the seeds out of those fresh fruits, sowed them with no processing and got wonderful plants. And then contacted Dr. Chatelet at the Rick Center and knowing the island she got them from he was able to tell me that it was a stable interspecies cross.

And when you're finished at the page I linked to above, go to the upper left and click on HOME and when you[re there you can see all the different ways that you can search for varieties, by fruit color, plant habit, fruit shape, country of origin, etc., and you also click on the link to currant tomatoes as well.

When I know the name of a variety I use the alphabetical way of searching which works out very well. That link is also on the home page/

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those are pretty big, mine are tiny. like 1/4 inch or smaller. clusters of 20-50 tomatoes. dozens and dozens of clusters.
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Amazing Just Googled it and they are too cool, I might want to find some at the store and plant them my self
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OROZCONLECHE wrote:Amazing Just Googled it and they are too cool, I might want to find some at the store and plant them my self
I don't think I've ever seen currant tomatoes in a store nor at a Farmer's Market, but being in S Cal, who can tell for sure.

THey aren't called currant tomatoes for nothing, b/c they are wee fruits about the size of currants.

I don't remember if I said anything about isolation of currant plants from others, which can be important and If I diDn't and anyone would like me to do so, I will. I'm just too lazy right now to go back up and look.

Carolyn, hoping tomorrow will see the last of the snow go from that nasty storm we had here over the weekend. So many folks still without power and predictions are for some it won't be until this next weekend until they get power back. I was lucky and just the fringes of the storm hit in upstate NY where I am and we only got maybe 5-7 inches.

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note to everyone on the currant tomatoes, they are very labor intensive to pick.
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Well ama have to look for some soon, and put em inside my house with a light bulb.
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soil wrote:those are pretty big, mine are tiny. like 1/4 inch or smaller. clusters of 20-50 tomatoes. dozens and dozens of clusters.
I just noticed that you posted clusters of 20-50 tomatoes and that doesn't describe a currant tomato variety which have long spindly trusses with maybe 10-15 or so wee fruits.

What is does describe is what's called a multiflora variety where one blossom stalk can have 100's of blossoms but not all of them set fruit and the usual number of fruit that would set would be in the range that you descibe.

Riesentraube is perhaps the best known multiflora, not a currant variety, indet, RL, with small red cherry size fruits that have a nipple at the blossom end.

Ildi is another multiflora variety as well, and there are others, none of them currant varieties, which are Solanum pimpinellifolium while our regular garden tomato is S. lycopersicon ( and some use esculentum for the species name.

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maybe 50 is an overstating things, ive never counted them, but the whole plant is covered in little fruits. a mature plant can have thousands on there.

i honestly don't care what they are exactly, they have been self seeding here for a while now eventually i doubt they will be the same.

i will say if anyone like some cool tomatoes, good sweet flavor, fun to grow, spoon, currant, whatever its called. is a fun tomato to grow( or let self seed and grow itself)
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I've been following this thread with interest.
I may put it on my list for next year. 8)

FWIW I *have* seen current tomatoes sold at Whole Foods in clear berry containers.

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